Kubernetes - deployment initialization - how to ensure it happens only once?












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I using Kubernetes 1.12. I have a service (e.g. pod) which may have multiple instances (e.g. replicas > 1)



My goal is to perform a maintenance task (e.g. createupgrade database, generate certificate, etc) before any of service instances are up.



I was considering to use Init Container, but at least as I understand, Init Container will be executed anytime additional replica (pod) is created and worse - that might happen in parallel. In that case, multiple Init Containers might work in parallel and thus corrupt my database and everything else.



I need a clear solution to perform a bootstrap maintenance task only once per deployment. How you would suggest to do that?










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  • What exactly does 'only once' per deployment mean?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 10:10










  • @ChrisStryczynski: I mean "once per deployment 'apply'", e.g. when I applying new development (may be creating new pods or updating existing), I want to perform a maintenance task.
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:38










  • If you mean each time you run a command x, then perhaps a Kubernetes job is the ideal way to have this done?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 11:03










  • Have you automated your deployment in a CI/CD pipeline? If so, deploy a Job that does your maintenance task(s), and ensure the Job succeeds or fail the pipeline before deploying your application.
    – Clorichel
    Nov 22 at 17:34
















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I using Kubernetes 1.12. I have a service (e.g. pod) which may have multiple instances (e.g. replicas > 1)



My goal is to perform a maintenance task (e.g. createupgrade database, generate certificate, etc) before any of service instances are up.



I was considering to use Init Container, but at least as I understand, Init Container will be executed anytime additional replica (pod) is created and worse - that might happen in parallel. In that case, multiple Init Containers might work in parallel and thus corrupt my database and everything else.



I need a clear solution to perform a bootstrap maintenance task only once per deployment. How you would suggest to do that?










share|improve this question






















  • What exactly does 'only once' per deployment mean?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 10:10










  • @ChrisStryczynski: I mean "once per deployment 'apply'", e.g. when I applying new development (may be creating new pods or updating existing), I want to perform a maintenance task.
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:38










  • If you mean each time you run a command x, then perhaps a Kubernetes job is the ideal way to have this done?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 11:03










  • Have you automated your deployment in a CI/CD pipeline? If so, deploy a Job that does your maintenance task(s), and ensure the Job succeeds or fail the pipeline before deploying your application.
    – Clorichel
    Nov 22 at 17:34














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I using Kubernetes 1.12. I have a service (e.g. pod) which may have multiple instances (e.g. replicas > 1)



My goal is to perform a maintenance task (e.g. createupgrade database, generate certificate, etc) before any of service instances are up.



I was considering to use Init Container, but at least as I understand, Init Container will be executed anytime additional replica (pod) is created and worse - that might happen in parallel. In that case, multiple Init Containers might work in parallel and thus corrupt my database and everything else.



I need a clear solution to perform a bootstrap maintenance task only once per deployment. How you would suggest to do that?










share|improve this question













I using Kubernetes 1.12. I have a service (e.g. pod) which may have multiple instances (e.g. replicas > 1)



My goal is to perform a maintenance task (e.g. createupgrade database, generate certificate, etc) before any of service instances are up.



I was considering to use Init Container, but at least as I understand, Init Container will be executed anytime additional replica (pod) is created and worse - that might happen in parallel. In that case, multiple Init Containers might work in parallel and thus corrupt my database and everything else.



I need a clear solution to perform a bootstrap maintenance task only once per deployment. How you would suggest to do that?







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  • What exactly does 'only once' per deployment mean?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 10:10










  • @ChrisStryczynski: I mean "once per deployment 'apply'", e.g. when I applying new development (may be creating new pods or updating existing), I want to perform a maintenance task.
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:38










  • If you mean each time you run a command x, then perhaps a Kubernetes job is the ideal way to have this done?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 11:03










  • Have you automated your deployment in a CI/CD pipeline? If so, deploy a Job that does your maintenance task(s), and ensure the Job succeeds or fail the pipeline before deploying your application.
    – Clorichel
    Nov 22 at 17:34


















  • What exactly does 'only once' per deployment mean?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 10:10










  • @ChrisStryczynski: I mean "once per deployment 'apply'", e.g. when I applying new development (may be creating new pods or updating existing), I want to perform a maintenance task.
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:38










  • If you mean each time you run a command x, then perhaps a Kubernetes job is the ideal way to have this done?
    – Chris Stryczynski
    Nov 22 at 11:03










  • Have you automated your deployment in a CI/CD pipeline? If so, deploy a Job that does your maintenance task(s), and ensure the Job succeeds or fail the pipeline before deploying your application.
    – Clorichel
    Nov 22 at 17:34
















What exactly does 'only once' per deployment mean?
– Chris Stryczynski
Nov 22 at 10:10




What exactly does 'only once' per deployment mean?
– Chris Stryczynski
Nov 22 at 10:10












@ChrisStryczynski: I mean "once per deployment 'apply'", e.g. when I applying new development (may be creating new pods or updating existing), I want to perform a maintenance task.
– Illidan
Nov 22 at 10:38




@ChrisStryczynski: I mean "once per deployment 'apply'", e.g. when I applying new development (may be creating new pods or updating existing), I want to perform a maintenance task.
– Illidan
Nov 22 at 10:38












If you mean each time you run a command x, then perhaps a Kubernetes job is the ideal way to have this done?
– Chris Stryczynski
Nov 22 at 11:03




If you mean each time you run a command x, then perhaps a Kubernetes job is the ideal way to have this done?
– Chris Stryczynski
Nov 22 at 11:03












Have you automated your deployment in a CI/CD pipeline? If so, deploy a Job that does your maintenance task(s), and ensure the Job succeeds or fail the pipeline before deploying your application.
– Clorichel
Nov 22 at 17:34




Have you automated your deployment in a CI/CD pipeline? If so, deploy a Job that does your maintenance task(s), and ensure the Job succeeds or fail the pipeline before deploying your application.
– Clorichel
Nov 22 at 17:34












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One of the ways you could use to retain startup sequence controll would be to use StatefulSet. With sequential startup, next pod will not start untill previous is done, removing parallel init risk.



Personally I would prefer this init to have its own locking mechanism and stick to regular Deploymants.



Remember that you need to take into account not only first startup on Deployment creation, but also cases for rolling releases, scaling, outages etc.






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  • How you would suggest to implement such locking mechanism?
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:39










  • well, if we talk about DB migrations, then you could use DB to first establish a lock and only then move forward with migration.
    – Radek 'Goblin' Pieczonka
    Nov 22 at 11:02











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One of the ways you could use to retain startup sequence controll would be to use StatefulSet. With sequential startup, next pod will not start untill previous is done, removing parallel init risk.



Personally I would prefer this init to have its own locking mechanism and stick to regular Deploymants.



Remember that you need to take into account not only first startup on Deployment creation, but also cases for rolling releases, scaling, outages etc.






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  • How you would suggest to implement such locking mechanism?
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:39










  • well, if we talk about DB migrations, then you could use DB to first establish a lock and only then move forward with migration.
    – Radek 'Goblin' Pieczonka
    Nov 22 at 11:02
















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One of the ways you could use to retain startup sequence controll would be to use StatefulSet. With sequential startup, next pod will not start untill previous is done, removing parallel init risk.



Personally I would prefer this init to have its own locking mechanism and stick to regular Deploymants.



Remember that you need to take into account not only first startup on Deployment creation, but also cases for rolling releases, scaling, outages etc.






share|improve this answer





















  • How you would suggest to implement such locking mechanism?
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:39










  • well, if we talk about DB migrations, then you could use DB to first establish a lock and only then move forward with migration.
    – Radek 'Goblin' Pieczonka
    Nov 22 at 11:02














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One of the ways you could use to retain startup sequence controll would be to use StatefulSet. With sequential startup, next pod will not start untill previous is done, removing parallel init risk.



Personally I would prefer this init to have its own locking mechanism and stick to regular Deploymants.



Remember that you need to take into account not only first startup on Deployment creation, but also cases for rolling releases, scaling, outages etc.






share|improve this answer












One of the ways you could use to retain startup sequence controll would be to use StatefulSet. With sequential startup, next pod will not start untill previous is done, removing parallel init risk.



Personally I would prefer this init to have its own locking mechanism and stick to regular Deploymants.



Remember that you need to take into account not only first startup on Deployment creation, but also cases for rolling releases, scaling, outages etc.







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  • How you would suggest to implement such locking mechanism?
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:39










  • well, if we talk about DB migrations, then you could use DB to first establish a lock and only then move forward with migration.
    – Radek 'Goblin' Pieczonka
    Nov 22 at 11:02


















  • How you would suggest to implement such locking mechanism?
    – Illidan
    Nov 22 at 10:39










  • well, if we talk about DB migrations, then you could use DB to first establish a lock and only then move forward with migration.
    – Radek 'Goblin' Pieczonka
    Nov 22 at 11:02
















How you would suggest to implement such locking mechanism?
– Illidan
Nov 22 at 10:39




How you would suggest to implement such locking mechanism?
– Illidan
Nov 22 at 10:39












well, if we talk about DB migrations, then you could use DB to first establish a lock and only then move forward with migration.
– Radek 'Goblin' Pieczonka
Nov 22 at 11:02




well, if we talk about DB migrations, then you could use DB to first establish a lock and only then move forward with migration.
– Radek 'Goblin' Pieczonka
Nov 22 at 11:02


















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