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I'm doing a summation, but I need the current sum to be a part of the computation in the actual sigma. First I define $n$ and $deltainmathbb{N}$:



$$sum_{n=1}^{50}2n+delta$$



where $delta$ is the current sum for each $n$.
So to avoid confusion the actual computation that I want is the following:



$$
begin{split}
2cdot1+0&=2\
2cdot2+2&=6\
2cdot3+6&=12\
2cdot4+12&=20\
2cdot5+20&=30\
2cdot6+30&=42\
2cdot7+42&=56\
2cdot8+56&=72\
2cdot9+72&=90\text{etc..}
end{split}
$$



You see the previous summation are the $delta$ in the next summation. As a side note: After just plugging in these numbers in OEIS, I found out that they are the pronic numbers, $a(n) = ncdot(n+1).$ However, I could have used a totally different example. My question asks wether there is a notation for the sigma summation to get $delta$ regardless of the outcome?



One idea I have is to use two sigmas instead of one, but I do not want to overcomplicate things if there is a better way..



(Im not necessarily interested in the result of the above computation, only in the process of how the notation works on how to compute)



Update: After some answers and comments, my question can be addressed more clearly:



Is the following notation
$$a_k = displaystylesum_{n=1}^{k}2n+a_{n-1}$$
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    I'm doing a summation, but I need the current sum to be a part of the computation in the actual sigma. First I define $n$ and $deltainmathbb{N}$:



    $$sum_{n=1}^{50}2n+delta$$



    where $delta$ is the current sum for each $n$.
    So to avoid confusion the actual computation that I want is the following:



    $$
    begin{split}
    2cdot1+0&=2\
    2cdot2+2&=6\
    2cdot3+6&=12\
    2cdot4+12&=20\
    2cdot5+20&=30\
    2cdot6+30&=42\
    2cdot7+42&=56\
    2cdot8+56&=72\
    2cdot9+72&=90\text{etc..}
    end{split}
    $$



    You see the previous summation are the $delta$ in the next summation. As a side note: After just plugging in these numbers in OEIS, I found out that they are the pronic numbers, $a(n) = ncdot(n+1).$ However, I could have used a totally different example. My question asks wether there is a notation for the sigma summation to get $delta$ regardless of the outcome?



    One idea I have is to use two sigmas instead of one, but I do not want to overcomplicate things if there is a better way..



    (Im not necessarily interested in the result of the above computation, only in the process of how the notation works on how to compute)



    Update: After some answers and comments, my question can be addressed more clearly:



    Is the following notation
    $$a_k = displaystylesum_{n=1}^{k}2n+a_{n-1}$$
    a valid one?










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      I'm doing a summation, but I need the current sum to be a part of the computation in the actual sigma. First I define $n$ and $deltainmathbb{N}$:



      $$sum_{n=1}^{50}2n+delta$$



      where $delta$ is the current sum for each $n$.
      So to avoid confusion the actual computation that I want is the following:



      $$
      begin{split}
      2cdot1+0&=2\
      2cdot2+2&=6\
      2cdot3+6&=12\
      2cdot4+12&=20\
      2cdot5+20&=30\
      2cdot6+30&=42\
      2cdot7+42&=56\
      2cdot8+56&=72\
      2cdot9+72&=90\text{etc..}
      end{split}
      $$



      You see the previous summation are the $delta$ in the next summation. As a side note: After just plugging in these numbers in OEIS, I found out that they are the pronic numbers, $a(n) = ncdot(n+1).$ However, I could have used a totally different example. My question asks wether there is a notation for the sigma summation to get $delta$ regardless of the outcome?



      One idea I have is to use two sigmas instead of one, but I do not want to overcomplicate things if there is a better way..



      (Im not necessarily interested in the result of the above computation, only in the process of how the notation works on how to compute)



      Update: After some answers and comments, my question can be addressed more clearly:



      Is the following notation
      $$a_k = displaystylesum_{n=1}^{k}2n+a_{n-1}$$
      a valid one?










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      I'm doing a summation, but I need the current sum to be a part of the computation in the actual sigma. First I define $n$ and $deltainmathbb{N}$:



      $$sum_{n=1}^{50}2n+delta$$



      where $delta$ is the current sum for each $n$.
      So to avoid confusion the actual computation that I want is the following:



      $$
      begin{split}
      2cdot1+0&=2\
      2cdot2+2&=6\
      2cdot3+6&=12\
      2cdot4+12&=20\
      2cdot5+20&=30\
      2cdot6+30&=42\
      2cdot7+42&=56\
      2cdot8+56&=72\
      2cdot9+72&=90\text{etc..}
      end{split}
      $$



      You see the previous summation are the $delta$ in the next summation. As a side note: After just plugging in these numbers in OEIS, I found out that they are the pronic numbers, $a(n) = ncdot(n+1).$ However, I could have used a totally different example. My question asks wether there is a notation for the sigma summation to get $delta$ regardless of the outcome?



      One idea I have is to use two sigmas instead of one, but I do not want to overcomplicate things if there is a better way..



      (Im not necessarily interested in the result of the above computation, only in the process of how the notation works on how to compute)



      Update: After some answers and comments, my question can be addressed more clearly:



      Is the following notation
      $$a_k = displaystylesum_{n=1}^{k}2n+a_{n-1}$$
      a valid one?







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          HINT



          What you actually are defining is the sequence $a_n$ which satisfies the initial condition $a_0=0$ and recurrence relation $a_n = a_{n-1} + 2n$. Can you now solve it?



          UPDATE



          I am saying that if you define your function as I am suggesting, $a_0 = delta$ and
          $$
          begin{split}
          a_n &= sum_{k=1}^n 2k + a_0 \
          &= 2sum_{k=1}^n k \
          &= 2 cdot frac{n(n+1)}{2} \
          &= n(n+1).
          end{split}
          $$



          That the formula $sum_{k=1}^n k = frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ holds can be proven by noticing that the sum
          $$
          1 + 2 + 3 + ldots + (n-2) +(n-1)+n
          $$

          can be grouped into pairs, adding first and last elements together, then second and next-to-last, etc. Each such pair has a sum of $n+1$ and




          • if $n$ is even, there are exactly $n/2$ such pairs, so the sum is $(n+1)n/2$

          • if $n$ is odd, there are $(n-1)/2$ such pairs and the middle number is $(n+1)/2$, so the sum is
            $$
            frac{(n+1)(n-1)}{2} + frac{n+1}{2}
            = frac{n+1}{2} left[(n-1)+1right]
            = frac{n(n+1)}{2}.
            $$







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          • No. Im not used to mathematical notation. Are you saying that $$sum_{n=1}^{50}a_i=2n+a_{i-1}$$ is allowed? And also is $a_{i-1}$ always initially 0?
            – Natural Number Guy
            Nov 21 at 23:12










          • oops. should be $a_n$ and $a_{n-1}$ instead of $i$.
            – Natural Number Guy
            Nov 21 at 23:20












          • @NaturalNumberGuy see update
            – gt6989b
            Nov 22 at 5:05


















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          Doubly, or triply, (or morely) applied sum symbols are just a normal occurence, & something to get used-to.






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            HINT



            What you actually are defining is the sequence $a_n$ which satisfies the initial condition $a_0=0$ and recurrence relation $a_n = a_{n-1} + 2n$. Can you now solve it?



            UPDATE



            I am saying that if you define your function as I am suggesting, $a_0 = delta$ and
            $$
            begin{split}
            a_n &= sum_{k=1}^n 2k + a_0 \
            &= 2sum_{k=1}^n k \
            &= 2 cdot frac{n(n+1)}{2} \
            &= n(n+1).
            end{split}
            $$



            That the formula $sum_{k=1}^n k = frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ holds can be proven by noticing that the sum
            $$
            1 + 2 + 3 + ldots + (n-2) +(n-1)+n
            $$

            can be grouped into pairs, adding first and last elements together, then second and next-to-last, etc. Each such pair has a sum of $n+1$ and




            • if $n$ is even, there are exactly $n/2$ such pairs, so the sum is $(n+1)n/2$

            • if $n$ is odd, there are $(n-1)/2$ such pairs and the middle number is $(n+1)/2$, so the sum is
              $$
              frac{(n+1)(n-1)}{2} + frac{n+1}{2}
              = frac{n+1}{2} left[(n-1)+1right]
              = frac{n(n+1)}{2}.
              $$







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            • No. Im not used to mathematical notation. Are you saying that $$sum_{n=1}^{50}a_i=2n+a_{i-1}$$ is allowed? And also is $a_{i-1}$ always initially 0?
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:12










            • oops. should be $a_n$ and $a_{n-1}$ instead of $i$.
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:20












            • @NaturalNumberGuy see update
              – gt6989b
              Nov 22 at 5:05















            up vote
            1
            down vote













            HINT



            What you actually are defining is the sequence $a_n$ which satisfies the initial condition $a_0=0$ and recurrence relation $a_n = a_{n-1} + 2n$. Can you now solve it?



            UPDATE



            I am saying that if you define your function as I am suggesting, $a_0 = delta$ and
            $$
            begin{split}
            a_n &= sum_{k=1}^n 2k + a_0 \
            &= 2sum_{k=1}^n k \
            &= 2 cdot frac{n(n+1)}{2} \
            &= n(n+1).
            end{split}
            $$



            That the formula $sum_{k=1}^n k = frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ holds can be proven by noticing that the sum
            $$
            1 + 2 + 3 + ldots + (n-2) +(n-1)+n
            $$

            can be grouped into pairs, adding first and last elements together, then second and next-to-last, etc. Each such pair has a sum of $n+1$ and




            • if $n$ is even, there are exactly $n/2$ such pairs, so the sum is $(n+1)n/2$

            • if $n$ is odd, there are $(n-1)/2$ such pairs and the middle number is $(n+1)/2$, so the sum is
              $$
              frac{(n+1)(n-1)}{2} + frac{n+1}{2}
              = frac{n+1}{2} left[(n-1)+1right]
              = frac{n(n+1)}{2}.
              $$







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            • No. Im not used to mathematical notation. Are you saying that $$sum_{n=1}^{50}a_i=2n+a_{i-1}$$ is allowed? And also is $a_{i-1}$ always initially 0?
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:12










            • oops. should be $a_n$ and $a_{n-1}$ instead of $i$.
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:20












            • @NaturalNumberGuy see update
              – gt6989b
              Nov 22 at 5:05













            up vote
            1
            down vote










            up vote
            1
            down vote









            HINT



            What you actually are defining is the sequence $a_n$ which satisfies the initial condition $a_0=0$ and recurrence relation $a_n = a_{n-1} + 2n$. Can you now solve it?



            UPDATE



            I am saying that if you define your function as I am suggesting, $a_0 = delta$ and
            $$
            begin{split}
            a_n &= sum_{k=1}^n 2k + a_0 \
            &= 2sum_{k=1}^n k \
            &= 2 cdot frac{n(n+1)}{2} \
            &= n(n+1).
            end{split}
            $$



            That the formula $sum_{k=1}^n k = frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ holds can be proven by noticing that the sum
            $$
            1 + 2 + 3 + ldots + (n-2) +(n-1)+n
            $$

            can be grouped into pairs, adding first and last elements together, then second and next-to-last, etc. Each such pair has a sum of $n+1$ and




            • if $n$ is even, there are exactly $n/2$ such pairs, so the sum is $(n+1)n/2$

            • if $n$ is odd, there are $(n-1)/2$ such pairs and the middle number is $(n+1)/2$, so the sum is
              $$
              frac{(n+1)(n-1)}{2} + frac{n+1}{2}
              = frac{n+1}{2} left[(n-1)+1right]
              = frac{n(n+1)}{2}.
              $$







            share|cite|improve this answer














            HINT



            What you actually are defining is the sequence $a_n$ which satisfies the initial condition $a_0=0$ and recurrence relation $a_n = a_{n-1} + 2n$. Can you now solve it?



            UPDATE



            I am saying that if you define your function as I am suggesting, $a_0 = delta$ and
            $$
            begin{split}
            a_n &= sum_{k=1}^n 2k + a_0 \
            &= 2sum_{k=1}^n k \
            &= 2 cdot frac{n(n+1)}{2} \
            &= n(n+1).
            end{split}
            $$



            That the formula $sum_{k=1}^n k = frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ holds can be proven by noticing that the sum
            $$
            1 + 2 + 3 + ldots + (n-2) +(n-1)+n
            $$

            can be grouped into pairs, adding first and last elements together, then second and next-to-last, etc. Each such pair has a sum of $n+1$ and




            • if $n$ is even, there are exactly $n/2$ such pairs, so the sum is $(n+1)n/2$

            • if $n$ is odd, there are $(n-1)/2$ such pairs and the middle number is $(n+1)/2$, so the sum is
              $$
              frac{(n+1)(n-1)}{2} + frac{n+1}{2}
              = frac{n+1}{2} left[(n-1)+1right]
              = frac{n(n+1)}{2}.
              $$








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            • No. Im not used to mathematical notation. Are you saying that $$sum_{n=1}^{50}a_i=2n+a_{i-1}$$ is allowed? And also is $a_{i-1}$ always initially 0?
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:12










            • oops. should be $a_n$ and $a_{n-1}$ instead of $i$.
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:20












            • @NaturalNumberGuy see update
              – gt6989b
              Nov 22 at 5:05


















            • No. Im not used to mathematical notation. Are you saying that $$sum_{n=1}^{50}a_i=2n+a_{i-1}$$ is allowed? And also is $a_{i-1}$ always initially 0?
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:12










            • oops. should be $a_n$ and $a_{n-1}$ instead of $i$.
              – Natural Number Guy
              Nov 21 at 23:20












            • @NaturalNumberGuy see update
              – gt6989b
              Nov 22 at 5:05
















            No. Im not used to mathematical notation. Are you saying that $$sum_{n=1}^{50}a_i=2n+a_{i-1}$$ is allowed? And also is $a_{i-1}$ always initially 0?
            – Natural Number Guy
            Nov 21 at 23:12




            No. Im not used to mathematical notation. Are you saying that $$sum_{n=1}^{50}a_i=2n+a_{i-1}$$ is allowed? And also is $a_{i-1}$ always initially 0?
            – Natural Number Guy
            Nov 21 at 23:12












            oops. should be $a_n$ and $a_{n-1}$ instead of $i$.
            – Natural Number Guy
            Nov 21 at 23:20






            oops. should be $a_n$ and $a_{n-1}$ instead of $i$.
            – Natural Number Guy
            Nov 21 at 23:20














            @NaturalNumberGuy see update
            – gt6989b
            Nov 22 at 5:05




            @NaturalNumberGuy see update
            – gt6989b
            Nov 22 at 5:05










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            Doubly, or triply, (or morely) applied sum symbols are just a normal occurence, & something to get used-to.






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                Doubly, or triply, (or morely) applied sum symbols are just a normal occurence, & something to get used-to.






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