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Let $E subset mathbb{R}^m$, $F subset mathbb{R}^n$ and $mu$ the Lebesgue measure.



How to prove:



If $E$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^m Rightarrow E times F$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^{m+n}$.



I know there is a way to show that implication with the theorems of Fubini, Tonelli and Cavalieri, but how can it be proved without them?



I used:



Since $E times F$ is a rectangle, by definition: $mu_{m+n}(E times F)=mu_m(E) cdot mu_n(F)$.



So if $mu_m(E)=0Rightarrow mu_{m+n}(E times F)=0$



Is this way correct? And how can it be shown if $mu_n(F)=infty$?










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  • Yes, that's right. Doesn't matter whether $mu_n(F)=infty$, because by definition in this context $0cdotinfty=0$.
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Let $E subset mathbb{R}^m$, $F subset mathbb{R}^n$ and $mu$ the Lebesgue measure.



How to prove:



If $E$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^m Rightarrow E times F$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^{m+n}$.



I know there is a way to show that implication with the theorems of Fubini, Tonelli and Cavalieri, but how can it be proved without them?



I used:



Since $E times F$ is a rectangle, by definition: $mu_{m+n}(E times F)=mu_m(E) cdot mu_n(F)$.



So if $mu_m(E)=0Rightarrow mu_{m+n}(E times F)=0$



Is this way correct? And how can it be shown if $mu_n(F)=infty$?










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  • Yes, that's right. Doesn't matter whether $mu_n(F)=infty$, because by definition in this context $0cdotinfty=0$.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 30 at 15:14
















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Let $E subset mathbb{R}^m$, $F subset mathbb{R}^n$ and $mu$ the Lebesgue measure.



How to prove:



If $E$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^m Rightarrow E times F$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^{m+n}$.



I know there is a way to show that implication with the theorems of Fubini, Tonelli and Cavalieri, but how can it be proved without them?



I used:



Since $E times F$ is a rectangle, by definition: $mu_{m+n}(E times F)=mu_m(E) cdot mu_n(F)$.



So if $mu_m(E)=0Rightarrow mu_{m+n}(E times F)=0$



Is this way correct? And how can it be shown if $mu_n(F)=infty$?










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Let $E subset mathbb{R}^m$, $F subset mathbb{R}^n$ and $mu$ the Lebesgue measure.



How to prove:



If $E$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^m Rightarrow E times F$ is a Lebesgue null set of $mathbb{R}^{m+n}$.



I know there is a way to show that implication with the theorems of Fubini, Tonelli and Cavalieri, but how can it be proved without them?



I used:



Since $E times F$ is a rectangle, by definition: $mu_{m+n}(E times F)=mu_m(E) cdot mu_n(F)$.



So if $mu_m(E)=0Rightarrow mu_{m+n}(E times F)=0$



Is this way correct? And how can it be shown if $mu_n(F)=infty$?







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  • Yes, that's right. Doesn't matter whether $mu_n(F)=infty$, because by definition in this context $0cdotinfty=0$.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 30 at 15:14




















  • Yes, that's right. Doesn't matter whether $mu_n(F)=infty$, because by definition in this context $0cdotinfty=0$.
    – David C. Ullrich
    Nov 30 at 15:14


















Yes, that's right. Doesn't matter whether $mu_n(F)=infty$, because by definition in this context $0cdotinfty=0$.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 30 at 15:14






Yes, that's right. Doesn't matter whether $mu_n(F)=infty$, because by definition in this context $0cdotinfty=0$.
– David C. Ullrich
Nov 30 at 15:14












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Hint: consider $F_k = F cap prod_{i=1}^n [-k,k]$. From you definition of product measure, $mu(Etimes F_k)=0$. Apply the regularity of measure and let $kto+infty$ to conclude.






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    Hint: consider $F_k = F cap prod_{i=1}^n [-k,k]$. From you definition of product measure, $mu(Etimes F_k)=0$. Apply the regularity of measure and let $kto+infty$ to conclude.






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      Hint: consider $F_k = F cap prod_{i=1}^n [-k,k]$. From you definition of product measure, $mu(Etimes F_k)=0$. Apply the regularity of measure and let $kto+infty$ to conclude.






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        Hint: consider $F_k = F cap prod_{i=1}^n [-k,k]$. From you definition of product measure, $mu(Etimes F_k)=0$. Apply the regularity of measure and let $kto+infty$ to conclude.






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        Hint: consider $F_k = F cap prod_{i=1}^n [-k,k]$. From you definition of product measure, $mu(Etimes F_k)=0$. Apply the regularity of measure and let $kto+infty$ to conclude.







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