Assuming GCH: if $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa^+$ (Jech Theorem 5.15)
I am trying to fill in the details for part (ii) of Theorem 5.15 in Jech's Set Theory:
Theorem 5.15 If GCH holds and $kappa$ and $lambda$ are infinite cardinals, then
(i) If $kappa leq lambda$, then $kappa^lambda = lambda^+$.
(ii) If $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa^+$.
(iii) If $lambda < mathrm{cf}(kappa)$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa$.
In the proof of (ii) he just states that it follows from these two lemmas:
Lemma 5.7 If $|A| = kappa geq lambda$, then the set $[A]^lambda$ has cardinality $kappa^lambda.$
(Here $[A]^lambda = {X subset A : |X| = lambda}.$)
Lemma 5.8 If $lambda$ is an infinite cardinal and $kappa_i > 0$ for each $i < lambda$, then
$$sum_{i<lambda}{kappa_i} = lambdacdotsup_{i<lambda}{kappa_i}.$$
I am struggling to construct an explicit proof using these results and a few facts about cardinal arithmetic such as absorption for infinite cardinals and cardinalities of power sets.
Since, assuming GCH, $kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)|$ for some $A$ with cardinality $kappa$, I thought I could come up with some sequence ${mu_i : i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)}$ such that
$$kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} |[A]^{mu_i}| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotsup_{i<mathrm{cf}(kappa)}kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotkappa^lambda = kappa^lambda$$
Is this approach a good idea? How would I go about finding the appropriate $mu_i$? I suppose it will have to make use of the assumption that $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, but I don't see how.
I'd much appreciate any hints on how to proceed (either with my suggestion or another way).
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I am trying to fill in the details for part (ii) of Theorem 5.15 in Jech's Set Theory:
Theorem 5.15 If GCH holds and $kappa$ and $lambda$ are infinite cardinals, then
(i) If $kappa leq lambda$, then $kappa^lambda = lambda^+$.
(ii) If $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa^+$.
(iii) If $lambda < mathrm{cf}(kappa)$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa$.
In the proof of (ii) he just states that it follows from these two lemmas:
Lemma 5.7 If $|A| = kappa geq lambda$, then the set $[A]^lambda$ has cardinality $kappa^lambda.$
(Here $[A]^lambda = {X subset A : |X| = lambda}.$)
Lemma 5.8 If $lambda$ is an infinite cardinal and $kappa_i > 0$ for each $i < lambda$, then
$$sum_{i<lambda}{kappa_i} = lambdacdotsup_{i<lambda}{kappa_i}.$$
I am struggling to construct an explicit proof using these results and a few facts about cardinal arithmetic such as absorption for infinite cardinals and cardinalities of power sets.
Since, assuming GCH, $kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)|$ for some $A$ with cardinality $kappa$, I thought I could come up with some sequence ${mu_i : i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)}$ such that
$$kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} |[A]^{mu_i}| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotsup_{i<mathrm{cf}(kappa)}kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotkappa^lambda = kappa^lambda$$
Is this approach a good idea? How would I go about finding the appropriate $mu_i$? I suppose it will have to make use of the assumption that $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, but I don't see how.
I'd much appreciate any hints on how to proceed (either with my suggestion or another way).
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I am trying to fill in the details for part (ii) of Theorem 5.15 in Jech's Set Theory:
Theorem 5.15 If GCH holds and $kappa$ and $lambda$ are infinite cardinals, then
(i) If $kappa leq lambda$, then $kappa^lambda = lambda^+$.
(ii) If $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa^+$.
(iii) If $lambda < mathrm{cf}(kappa)$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa$.
In the proof of (ii) he just states that it follows from these two lemmas:
Lemma 5.7 If $|A| = kappa geq lambda$, then the set $[A]^lambda$ has cardinality $kappa^lambda.$
(Here $[A]^lambda = {X subset A : |X| = lambda}.$)
Lemma 5.8 If $lambda$ is an infinite cardinal and $kappa_i > 0$ for each $i < lambda$, then
$$sum_{i<lambda}{kappa_i} = lambdacdotsup_{i<lambda}{kappa_i}.$$
I am struggling to construct an explicit proof using these results and a few facts about cardinal arithmetic such as absorption for infinite cardinals and cardinalities of power sets.
Since, assuming GCH, $kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)|$ for some $A$ with cardinality $kappa$, I thought I could come up with some sequence ${mu_i : i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)}$ such that
$$kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} |[A]^{mu_i}| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotsup_{i<mathrm{cf}(kappa)}kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotkappa^lambda = kappa^lambda$$
Is this approach a good idea? How would I go about finding the appropriate $mu_i$? I suppose it will have to make use of the assumption that $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, but I don't see how.
I'd much appreciate any hints on how to proceed (either with my suggestion or another way).
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I am trying to fill in the details for part (ii) of Theorem 5.15 in Jech's Set Theory:
Theorem 5.15 If GCH holds and $kappa$ and $lambda$ are infinite cardinals, then
(i) If $kappa leq lambda$, then $kappa^lambda = lambda^+$.
(ii) If $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa^+$.
(iii) If $lambda < mathrm{cf}(kappa)$, then $kappa^lambda = kappa$.
In the proof of (ii) he just states that it follows from these two lemmas:
Lemma 5.7 If $|A| = kappa geq lambda$, then the set $[A]^lambda$ has cardinality $kappa^lambda.$
(Here $[A]^lambda = {X subset A : |X| = lambda}.$)
Lemma 5.8 If $lambda$ is an infinite cardinal and $kappa_i > 0$ for each $i < lambda$, then
$$sum_{i<lambda}{kappa_i} = lambdacdotsup_{i<lambda}{kappa_i}.$$
I am struggling to construct an explicit proof using these results and a few facts about cardinal arithmetic such as absorption for infinite cardinals and cardinalities of power sets.
Since, assuming GCH, $kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)|$ for some $A$ with cardinality $kappa$, I thought I could come up with some sequence ${mu_i : i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)}$ such that
$$kappa^+ = 2^kappa = |mathcal{P}(A)| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} |[A]^{mu_i}| = sum_{i < mathrm{cf}(kappa)} kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotsup_{i<mathrm{cf}(kappa)}kappa^{mu_i} = mathrm{cf}(kappa)cdotkappa^lambda = kappa^lambda$$
Is this approach a good idea? How would I go about finding the appropriate $mu_i$? I suppose it will have to make use of the assumption that $mathrm{cf}(kappa) leq lambda < kappa$, but I don't see how.
I'd much appreciate any hints on how to proceed (either with my suggestion or another way).
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You fell into a trap that also caught me when I was just starting to read mathematical books. When you see a reference to (5.7) it does not mean Lemma 5.7, but rather the displayed formula whose tag is 5.7, which in this case is the formula:
$$kappaleqkappa^lambdaleq 2^kappa.$$ Similarly, (5.8) refers to the inequality $$kappa<kappa^lambdaquadtext{ if }lambdageqoperatorname{cf}kappa.$$
And indeed these are the inequalities needed to prove (i) and (ii).
Oh! That makes a lot more of sense. Thanks! I think it was more confusing as the line immediately above cites Lemma 5.6, then it cites (5.7) and (5.8).
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You fell into a trap that also caught me when I was just starting to read mathematical books. When you see a reference to (5.7) it does not mean Lemma 5.7, but rather the displayed formula whose tag is 5.7, which in this case is the formula:
$$kappaleqkappa^lambdaleq 2^kappa.$$ Similarly, (5.8) refers to the inequality $$kappa<kappa^lambdaquadtext{ if }lambdageqoperatorname{cf}kappa.$$
And indeed these are the inequalities needed to prove (i) and (ii).
Oh! That makes a lot more of sense. Thanks! I think it was more confusing as the line immediately above cites Lemma 5.6, then it cites (5.7) and (5.8).
– ryan221b
Dec 4 '18 at 16:55
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You fell into a trap that also caught me when I was just starting to read mathematical books. When you see a reference to (5.7) it does not mean Lemma 5.7, but rather the displayed formula whose tag is 5.7, which in this case is the formula:
$$kappaleqkappa^lambdaleq 2^kappa.$$ Similarly, (5.8) refers to the inequality $$kappa<kappa^lambdaquadtext{ if }lambdageqoperatorname{cf}kappa.$$
And indeed these are the inequalities needed to prove (i) and (ii).
Oh! That makes a lot more of sense. Thanks! I think it was more confusing as the line immediately above cites Lemma 5.6, then it cites (5.7) and (5.8).
– ryan221b
Dec 4 '18 at 16:55
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You fell into a trap that also caught me when I was just starting to read mathematical books. When you see a reference to (5.7) it does not mean Lemma 5.7, but rather the displayed formula whose tag is 5.7, which in this case is the formula:
$$kappaleqkappa^lambdaleq 2^kappa.$$ Similarly, (5.8) refers to the inequality $$kappa<kappa^lambdaquadtext{ if }lambdageqoperatorname{cf}kappa.$$
And indeed these are the inequalities needed to prove (i) and (ii).
You fell into a trap that also caught me when I was just starting to read mathematical books. When you see a reference to (5.7) it does not mean Lemma 5.7, but rather the displayed formula whose tag is 5.7, which in this case is the formula:
$$kappaleqkappa^lambdaleq 2^kappa.$$ Similarly, (5.8) refers to the inequality $$kappa<kappa^lambdaquadtext{ if }lambdageqoperatorname{cf}kappa.$$
And indeed these are the inequalities needed to prove (i) and (ii).
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Oh! That makes a lot more of sense. Thanks! I think it was more confusing as the line immediately above cites Lemma 5.6, then it cites (5.7) and (5.8).
– ryan221b
Dec 4 '18 at 16:55
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Oh! That makes a lot more of sense. Thanks! I think it was more confusing as the line immediately above cites Lemma 5.6, then it cites (5.7) and (5.8).
– ryan221b
Dec 4 '18 at 16:55
Oh! That makes a lot more of sense. Thanks! I think it was more confusing as the line immediately above cites Lemma 5.6, then it cites (5.7) and (5.8).
– ryan221b
Dec 4 '18 at 16:55
Oh! That makes a lot more of sense. Thanks! I think it was more confusing as the line immediately above cites Lemma 5.6, then it cites (5.7) and (5.8).
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