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If $R$ is a noncommutative ring and there exist $a,bin R$ such that $ab=1$ and $baneq 1$, theN $R$ is infinite.




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Consider $f_a(c)=ca$, it is injective $f_a(c)=f_a(d)$ implies that $ca=da$, we deduce that $(ca)b=(da)b=c(ab)=d(ab)=c=d$. If $R$ is finite, $f$ is bijective, there exists $x$ such that $f(x)=xa=1$, you have $xab=x(ab)=x=(xa)b=b$. Contradiction.






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    Suppose $R$ is finite and $ab = 1$. Then in particular $a^n = 1$ for some $n$ or $a^m = 0$ for some $m$ minimal. In the second case, $0 = a^m b = a^{m-1}$, a contradiction by minimality of $m$ so we must be in the first case. In the first case, $b = a^n b = a^{n-1}$ and hence $ba = a^n = 1$.



    By the contrapositive, if $ab = 1$ and $ba neq 1$ then $R$ must be infinite.






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      Consider $f_a(c)=ca$, it is injective $f_a(c)=f_a(d)$ implies that $ca=da$, we deduce that $(ca)b=(da)b=c(ab)=d(ab)=c=d$. If $R$ is finite, $f$ is bijective, there exists $x$ such that $f(x)=xa=1$, you have $xab=x(ab)=x=(xa)b=b$. Contradiction.






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        Consider $f_a(c)=ca$, it is injective $f_a(c)=f_a(d)$ implies that $ca=da$, we deduce that $(ca)b=(da)b=c(ab)=d(ab)=c=d$. If $R$ is finite, $f$ is bijective, there exists $x$ such that $f(x)=xa=1$, you have $xab=x(ab)=x=(xa)b=b$. Contradiction.






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          Consider $f_a(c)=ca$, it is injective $f_a(c)=f_a(d)$ implies that $ca=da$, we deduce that $(ca)b=(da)b=c(ab)=d(ab)=c=d$. If $R$ is finite, $f$ is bijective, there exists $x$ such that $f(x)=xa=1$, you have $xab=x(ab)=x=(xa)b=b$. Contradiction.






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          Consider $f_a(c)=ca$, it is injective $f_a(c)=f_a(d)$ implies that $ca=da$, we deduce that $(ca)b=(da)b=c(ab)=d(ab)=c=d$. If $R$ is finite, $f$ is bijective, there exists $x$ such that $f(x)=xa=1$, you have $xab=x(ab)=x=(xa)b=b$. Contradiction.







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              Suppose $R$ is finite and $ab = 1$. Then in particular $a^n = 1$ for some $n$ or $a^m = 0$ for some $m$ minimal. In the second case, $0 = a^m b = a^{m-1}$, a contradiction by minimality of $m$ so we must be in the first case. In the first case, $b = a^n b = a^{n-1}$ and hence $ba = a^n = 1$.



              By the contrapositive, if $ab = 1$ and $ba neq 1$ then $R$ must be infinite.






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                Suppose $R$ is finite and $ab = 1$. Then in particular $a^n = 1$ for some $n$ or $a^m = 0$ for some $m$ minimal. In the second case, $0 = a^m b = a^{m-1}$, a contradiction by minimality of $m$ so we must be in the first case. In the first case, $b = a^n b = a^{n-1}$ and hence $ba = a^n = 1$.



                By the contrapositive, if $ab = 1$ and $ba neq 1$ then $R$ must be infinite.






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                  Suppose $R$ is finite and $ab = 1$. Then in particular $a^n = 1$ for some $n$ or $a^m = 0$ for some $m$ minimal. In the second case, $0 = a^m b = a^{m-1}$, a contradiction by minimality of $m$ so we must be in the first case. In the first case, $b = a^n b = a^{n-1}$ and hence $ba = a^n = 1$.



                  By the contrapositive, if $ab = 1$ and $ba neq 1$ then $R$ must be infinite.






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                  Suppose $R$ is finite and $ab = 1$. Then in particular $a^n = 1$ for some $n$ or $a^m = 0$ for some $m$ minimal. In the second case, $0 = a^m b = a^{m-1}$, a contradiction by minimality of $m$ so we must be in the first case. In the first case, $b = a^n b = a^{n-1}$ and hence $ba = a^n = 1$.



                  By the contrapositive, if $ab = 1$ and $ba neq 1$ then $R$ must be infinite.







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