$mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed and generated by $id$
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Let $H$ be a Hilbert space. Define its positive cone by
$$mathcal{B}(H) = {A in mathcal{B}(H) : langle v, A(v)rangle geq 0, forall v in H}.$$
Show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed with respect to the operator norm and it is generated by $id in mathcal{B}(H)$.
1) $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed.
Let $(A_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ be a sequence of positive elements of $mathcal{B}(H)$ and $A = lim_{n in mathbb{N}} A_n$, ie, $vertvert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$. This means that $ sup_{v in H, ||v|| = 1} |A_n(v) - A(v)| rightarrow 0$.
As $A_n in mathcal{B}(H)$, for all $n in mathbb{N}$, we have that for all $v in H$ and for all $n in mathbb{N}$, $langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$. In order to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed, we need to show that for all $v in H$, $langle v, A(v) rangle geq 0$.
Suppose that $v in H$ is such that $||v|| = 1$ (otherwise we can divide and multiply by the norm and do some similar calculation). Then,
$langle v, A(v) rangle = langle v, A(v) - A_n(v) rangle + langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$, because the first term goes to $0$ and $vert vert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$ and the second term is positive.
Problem: I think this argument is not totally precise. Could someone help me here?
And I am struggling to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is generated by $id$. I would appreciate very much some hint :)
Thanks in advance!
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Let $H$ be a Hilbert space. Define its positive cone by
$$mathcal{B}(H) = {A in mathcal{B}(H) : langle v, A(v)rangle geq 0, forall v in H}.$$
Show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed with respect to the operator norm and it is generated by $id in mathcal{B}(H)$.
1) $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed.
Let $(A_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ be a sequence of positive elements of $mathcal{B}(H)$ and $A = lim_{n in mathbb{N}} A_n$, ie, $vertvert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$. This means that $ sup_{v in H, ||v|| = 1} |A_n(v) - A(v)| rightarrow 0$.
As $A_n in mathcal{B}(H)$, for all $n in mathbb{N}$, we have that for all $v in H$ and for all $n in mathbb{N}$, $langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$. In order to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed, we need to show that for all $v in H$, $langle v, A(v) rangle geq 0$.
Suppose that $v in H$ is such that $||v|| = 1$ (otherwise we can divide and multiply by the norm and do some similar calculation). Then,
$langle v, A(v) rangle = langle v, A(v) - A_n(v) rangle + langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$, because the first term goes to $0$ and $vert vert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$ and the second term is positive.
Problem: I think this argument is not totally precise. Could someone help me here?
And I am struggling to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is generated by $id$. I would appreciate very much some hint :)
Thanks in advance!
convergence hilbert-spaces operator-algebras
Can you define "generated by"?
– user25959
Nov 26 at 21:15
We say that a positive cone $V^+$ is generated by some element $v$ if $V^+ = cup_{alpha in mathbb{R}^+_{0} }$ $[0, alpha v] $.
– Luísa Borsato
Nov 26 at 21:42
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Let $H$ be a Hilbert space. Define its positive cone by
$$mathcal{B}(H) = {A in mathcal{B}(H) : langle v, A(v)rangle geq 0, forall v in H}.$$
Show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed with respect to the operator norm and it is generated by $id in mathcal{B}(H)$.
1) $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed.
Let $(A_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ be a sequence of positive elements of $mathcal{B}(H)$ and $A = lim_{n in mathbb{N}} A_n$, ie, $vertvert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$. This means that $ sup_{v in H, ||v|| = 1} |A_n(v) - A(v)| rightarrow 0$.
As $A_n in mathcal{B}(H)$, for all $n in mathbb{N}$, we have that for all $v in H$ and for all $n in mathbb{N}$, $langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$. In order to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed, we need to show that for all $v in H$, $langle v, A(v) rangle geq 0$.
Suppose that $v in H$ is such that $||v|| = 1$ (otherwise we can divide and multiply by the norm and do some similar calculation). Then,
$langle v, A(v) rangle = langle v, A(v) - A_n(v) rangle + langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$, because the first term goes to $0$ and $vert vert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$ and the second term is positive.
Problem: I think this argument is not totally precise. Could someone help me here?
And I am struggling to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is generated by $id$. I would appreciate very much some hint :)
Thanks in advance!
convergence hilbert-spaces operator-algebras
Let $H$ be a Hilbert space. Define its positive cone by
$$mathcal{B}(H) = {A in mathcal{B}(H) : langle v, A(v)rangle geq 0, forall v in H}.$$
Show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed with respect to the operator norm and it is generated by $id in mathcal{B}(H)$.
1) $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed.
Let $(A_n)_{n in mathbb{N}}$ be a sequence of positive elements of $mathcal{B}(H)$ and $A = lim_{n in mathbb{N}} A_n$, ie, $vertvert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$. This means that $ sup_{v in H, ||v|| = 1} |A_n(v) - A(v)| rightarrow 0$.
As $A_n in mathcal{B}(H)$, for all $n in mathbb{N}$, we have that for all $v in H$ and for all $n in mathbb{N}$, $langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$. In order to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is closed, we need to show that for all $v in H$, $langle v, A(v) rangle geq 0$.
Suppose that $v in H$ is such that $||v|| = 1$ (otherwise we can divide and multiply by the norm and do some similar calculation). Then,
$langle v, A(v) rangle = langle v, A(v) - A_n(v) rangle + langle v, A_n(v) rangle geq 0$, because the first term goes to $0$ and $vert vert A_n - A vertvert_{op} rightarrow 0$ and the second term is positive.
Problem: I think this argument is not totally precise. Could someone help me here?
And I am struggling to show that $mathcal{B}(H)^+$ is generated by $id$. I would appreciate very much some hint :)
Thanks in advance!
convergence hilbert-spaces operator-algebras
convergence hilbert-spaces operator-algebras
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Luísa Borsato
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Can you define "generated by"?
– user25959
Nov 26 at 21:15
We say that a positive cone $V^+$ is generated by some element $v$ if $V^+ = cup_{alpha in mathbb{R}^+_{0} }$ $[0, alpha v] $.
– Luísa Borsato
Nov 26 at 21:42
add a comment |
Can you define "generated by"?
– user25959
Nov 26 at 21:15
We say that a positive cone $V^+$ is generated by some element $v$ if $V^+ = cup_{alpha in mathbb{R}^+_{0} }$ $[0, alpha v] $.
– Luísa Borsato
Nov 26 at 21:42
Can you define "generated by"?
– user25959
Nov 26 at 21:15
Can you define "generated by"?
– user25959
Nov 26 at 21:15
We say that a positive cone $V^+$ is generated by some element $v$ if $V^+ = cup_{alpha in mathbb{R}^+_{0} }$ $[0, alpha v] $.
– Luísa Borsato
Nov 26 at 21:42
We say that a positive cone $V^+$ is generated by some element $v$ if $V^+ = cup_{alpha in mathbb{R}^+_{0} }$ $[0, alpha v] $.
– Luísa Borsato
Nov 26 at 21:42
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1) The argument is not written very clearly, but it's essentially ok. If $A_nto A$ is operator norm, then $A_n vto A v$ for all $vin H$ (this you already used) and thus also $langle A_n v,vrangleto langle A v,vrangle$. The latter follows directly from the continuity of the inner product. Since every sequence member is nonnegative, so is the limit.
2) You have to show that for every $Ain B(H)^+$ there exists $alpha>0$ such that $Aleq alpha,mathrm{id}$. The canoncial candidate for any bound on $A$ is $lVert ArVert$, and indeed it works:
$$
langle Av,vrangleleq lVert AvrVert lVert vrVert leq lVert ArVert lVert vrVert^2=lVert ArVert langlemathrm{id},v,vrangle.
$$
Hence $Aleq lVert ArVert,mathrm{id}$.
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1) The argument is not written very clearly, but it's essentially ok. If $A_nto A$ is operator norm, then $A_n vto A v$ for all $vin H$ (this you already used) and thus also $langle A_n v,vrangleto langle A v,vrangle$. The latter follows directly from the continuity of the inner product. Since every sequence member is nonnegative, so is the limit.
2) You have to show that for every $Ain B(H)^+$ there exists $alpha>0$ such that $Aleq alpha,mathrm{id}$. The canoncial candidate for any bound on $A$ is $lVert ArVert$, and indeed it works:
$$
langle Av,vrangleleq lVert AvrVert lVert vrVert leq lVert ArVert lVert vrVert^2=lVert ArVert langlemathrm{id},v,vrangle.
$$
Hence $Aleq lVert ArVert,mathrm{id}$.
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1
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1) The argument is not written very clearly, but it's essentially ok. If $A_nto A$ is operator norm, then $A_n vto A v$ for all $vin H$ (this you already used) and thus also $langle A_n v,vrangleto langle A v,vrangle$. The latter follows directly from the continuity of the inner product. Since every sequence member is nonnegative, so is the limit.
2) You have to show that for every $Ain B(H)^+$ there exists $alpha>0$ such that $Aleq alpha,mathrm{id}$. The canoncial candidate for any bound on $A$ is $lVert ArVert$, and indeed it works:
$$
langle Av,vrangleleq lVert AvrVert lVert vrVert leq lVert ArVert lVert vrVert^2=lVert ArVert langlemathrm{id},v,vrangle.
$$
Hence $Aleq lVert ArVert,mathrm{id}$.
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1) The argument is not written very clearly, but it's essentially ok. If $A_nto A$ is operator norm, then $A_n vto A v$ for all $vin H$ (this you already used) and thus also $langle A_n v,vrangleto langle A v,vrangle$. The latter follows directly from the continuity of the inner product. Since every sequence member is nonnegative, so is the limit.
2) You have to show that for every $Ain B(H)^+$ there exists $alpha>0$ such that $Aleq alpha,mathrm{id}$. The canoncial candidate for any bound on $A$ is $lVert ArVert$, and indeed it works:
$$
langle Av,vrangleleq lVert AvrVert lVert vrVert leq lVert ArVert lVert vrVert^2=lVert ArVert langlemathrm{id},v,vrangle.
$$
Hence $Aleq lVert ArVert,mathrm{id}$.
1) The argument is not written very clearly, but it's essentially ok. If $A_nto A$ is operator norm, then $A_n vto A v$ for all $vin H$ (this you already used) and thus also $langle A_n v,vrangleto langle A v,vrangle$. The latter follows directly from the continuity of the inner product. Since every sequence member is nonnegative, so is the limit.
2) You have to show that for every $Ain B(H)^+$ there exists $alpha>0$ such that $Aleq alpha,mathrm{id}$. The canoncial candidate for any bound on $A$ is $lVert ArVert$, and indeed it works:
$$
langle Av,vrangleleq lVert AvrVert lVert vrVert leq lVert ArVert lVert vrVert^2=lVert ArVert langlemathrm{id},v,vrangle.
$$
Hence $Aleq lVert ArVert,mathrm{id}$.
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Can you define "generated by"?
– user25959
Nov 26 at 21:15
We say that a positive cone $V^+$ is generated by some element $v$ if $V^+ = cup_{alpha in mathbb{R}^+_{0} }$ $[0, alpha v] $.
– Luísa Borsato
Nov 26 at 21:42