A difficulty in understanding a part of a paragraph in P.41 in Guillemin & Pollack (2)












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The paragraph is given below:



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But I do not understand:



1-In the forth line why we can not have the case $df_{x} =$ constant other than 0, could anyone explain this for me please?



2-In the sixth line how f is simply the first coordinate function, could anyone give me a concrete example for describing this please?



3-In the tenth line I could not understand why the authors said "But if $f(x)$ ia an extreme value, then obviously $f$ can not be a coordinate function near x" , could anyone explain this statement for me please may be by a concrete example?



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  • 1. $df_x$ is a linear map of vector spaces, so how many such constant maps could it be?
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:42










  • you mean $f$ is a linear map of vector spaces or $df$? @Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:46












  • Check the definitions: given $f: X to Y$ a smooth map, $df_x$ is a linear transformation $df_x: T_xM to T_{f(x)}N$.
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:48










  • So by this definition since the differential(derivative) of a linear map is the linear map itself .... I do not know the answer for your first question .... I am confused.@Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:52






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    You are confusing the concept of linear function from elementary mathematics with the concept of a linear transformation of vector spaces that occurs in linear algebra. There is a connection between the two, but they are not the same thing.
    – Justin Young
    Dec 5 '18 at 15:01
















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The paragraph is given below:



enter image description here



But I do not understand:



1-In the forth line why we can not have the case $df_{x} =$ constant other than 0, could anyone explain this for me please?



2-In the sixth line how f is simply the first coordinate function, could anyone give me a concrete example for describing this please?



3-In the tenth line I could not understand why the authors said "But if $f(x)$ ia an extreme value, then obviously $f$ can not be a coordinate function near x" , could anyone explain this statement for me please may be by a concrete example?



thank!






general-topology differential-geometry algebraic-topology differential-topology







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  • 1. $df_x$ is a linear map of vector spaces, so how many such constant maps could it be?
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:42










  • you mean $f$ is a linear map of vector spaces or $df$? @Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:46












  • Check the definitions: given $f: X to Y$ a smooth map, $df_x$ is a linear transformation $df_x: T_xM to T_{f(x)}N$.
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:48










  • So by this definition since the differential(derivative) of a linear map is the linear map itself .... I do not know the answer for your first question .... I am confused.@Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:52






  • 1




    You are confusing the concept of linear function from elementary mathematics with the concept of a linear transformation of vector spaces that occurs in linear algebra. There is a connection between the two, but they are not the same thing.
    – Justin Young
    Dec 5 '18 at 15:01














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The paragraph is given below:



enter image description here



But I do not understand:



1-In the forth line why we can not have the case $df_{x} =$ constant other than 0, could anyone explain this for me please?



2-In the sixth line how f is simply the first coordinate function, could anyone give me a concrete example for describing this please?



3-In the tenth line I could not understand why the authors said "But if $f(x)$ ia an extreme value, then obviously $f$ can not be a coordinate function near x" , could anyone explain this statement for me please may be by a concrete example?



thank!






general-topology differential-geometry algebraic-topology differential-topology







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The paragraph is given below:



enter image description here



But I do not understand:



1-In the forth line why we can not have the case $df_{x} =$ constant other than 0, could anyone explain this for me please?



2-In the sixth line how f is simply the first coordinate function, could anyone give me a concrete example for describing this please?



3-In the tenth line I could not understand why the authors said "But if $f(x)$ ia an extreme value, then obviously $f$ can not be a coordinate function near x" , could anyone explain this statement for me please may be by a concrete example?



thank!






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  • 1. $df_x$ is a linear map of vector spaces, so how many such constant maps could it be?
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:42










  • you mean $f$ is a linear map of vector spaces or $df$? @Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:46












  • Check the definitions: given $f: X to Y$ a smooth map, $df_x$ is a linear transformation $df_x: T_xM to T_{f(x)}N$.
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:48










  • So by this definition since the differential(derivative) of a linear map is the linear map itself .... I do not know the answer for your first question .... I am confused.@Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:52






  • 1




    You are confusing the concept of linear function from elementary mathematics with the concept of a linear transformation of vector spaces that occurs in linear algebra. There is a connection between the two, but they are not the same thing.
    – Justin Young
    Dec 5 '18 at 15:01


















  • 1. $df_x$ is a linear map of vector spaces, so how many such constant maps could it be?
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:42










  • you mean $f$ is a linear map of vector spaces or $df$? @Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:46












  • Check the definitions: given $f: X to Y$ a smooth map, $df_x$ is a linear transformation $df_x: T_xM to T_{f(x)}N$.
    – Randall
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:48










  • So by this definition since the differential(derivative) of a linear map is the linear map itself .... I do not know the answer for your first question .... I am confused.@Randall
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 3:52






  • 1




    You are confusing the concept of linear function from elementary mathematics with the concept of a linear transformation of vector spaces that occurs in linear algebra. There is a connection between the two, but they are not the same thing.
    – Justin Young
    Dec 5 '18 at 15:01
















1. $df_x$ is a linear map of vector spaces, so how many such constant maps could it be?
– Randall
Dec 5 '18 at 3:42




1. $df_x$ is a linear map of vector spaces, so how many such constant maps could it be?
– Randall
Dec 5 '18 at 3:42












you mean $f$ is a linear map of vector spaces or $df$? @Randall
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 3:46






you mean $f$ is a linear map of vector spaces or $df$? @Randall
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 3:46














Check the definitions: given $f: X to Y$ a smooth map, $df_x$ is a linear transformation $df_x: T_xM to T_{f(x)}N$.
– Randall
Dec 5 '18 at 3:48




Check the definitions: given $f: X to Y$ a smooth map, $df_x$ is a linear transformation $df_x: T_xM to T_{f(x)}N$.
– Randall
Dec 5 '18 at 3:48












So by this definition since the differential(derivative) of a linear map is the linear map itself .... I do not know the answer for your first question .... I am confused.@Randall
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 3:52




So by this definition since the differential(derivative) of a linear map is the linear map itself .... I do not know the answer for your first question .... I am confused.@Randall
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 3:52




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You are confusing the concept of linear function from elementary mathematics with the concept of a linear transformation of vector spaces that occurs in linear algebra. There is a connection between the two, but they are not the same thing.
– Justin Young
Dec 5 '18 at 15:01




You are confusing the concept of linear function from elementary mathematics with the concept of a linear transformation of vector spaces that occurs in linear algebra. There is a connection between the two, but they are not the same thing.
– Justin Young
Dec 5 '18 at 15:01










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(1) The only constant linear map is the zero map. (2) The claim in the sixth line is essentially the implicit function theorem. (3) Consider $f(x)=x^2$. No change of coordinates will turn this into $x$ near $0$.






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  • why the only constant linear map is the zero map?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:30










  • How it is the implicit function theorem?
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  • do not understand the answer of (3)
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(1) The only constant linear map is the zero map. (2) The claim in the sixth line is essentially the implicit function theorem. (3) Consider $f(x)=x^2$. No change of coordinates will turn this into $x$ near $0$.






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  • why the only constant linear map is the zero map?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:30










  • How it is the implicit function theorem?
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    Dec 5 '18 at 6:43










  • do not understand the answer of (3)
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(1) The only constant linear map is the zero map. (2) The claim in the sixth line is essentially the implicit function theorem. (3) Consider $f(x)=x^2$. No change of coordinates will turn this into $x$ near $0$.






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  • why the only constant linear map is the zero map?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:30










  • How it is the implicit function theorem?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:43










  • do not understand the answer of (3)
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:51














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(1) The only constant linear map is the zero map. (2) The claim in the sixth line is essentially the implicit function theorem. (3) Consider $f(x)=x^2$. No change of coordinates will turn this into $x$ near $0$.






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(1) The only constant linear map is the zero map. (2) The claim in the sixth line is essentially the implicit function theorem. (3) Consider $f(x)=x^2$. No change of coordinates will turn this into $x$ near $0$.







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  • why the only constant linear map is the zero map?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:30










  • How it is the implicit function theorem?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:43










  • do not understand the answer of (3)
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:51


















  • why the only constant linear map is the zero map?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:30










  • How it is the implicit function theorem?
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:43










  • do not understand the answer of (3)
    – hopefully
    Dec 5 '18 at 6:51
















why the only constant linear map is the zero map?
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 6:30




why the only constant linear map is the zero map?
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 6:30












How it is the implicit function theorem?
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 6:43




How it is the implicit function theorem?
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 6:43












do not understand the answer of (3)
– hopefully
Dec 5 '18 at 6:51




do not understand the answer of (3)
– hopefully
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