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The proof I've been given is




If not, there is a non-constant continuous $f$ from $I$ to
discrete ${0, 1}$. Then $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is also continuous which contradicts the Intermediate Value Theorem.




Why must $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ also be continuous?










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    $f: I rightarrow {0,1} subset mathbb R$. Viewing the space containing the codomain as a subset of a larger set does not affect whether a function is continuous or not. Continuity is determined by the behavior of the domain.
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    I have to wonder though if that proof isn't circular and it is my impression that the Intermediate Value Theorem relies upon the connectedness of intervals in its proof.
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    It $is$ circular. I never liked this proof because just as you say, the various proofs of IVT use at some point, the fact that intervals are connected.
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The proof I've been given is




If not, there is a non-constant continuous $f$ from $I$ to
discrete ${0, 1}$. Then $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is also continuous which contradicts the Intermediate Value Theorem.




Why must $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ also be continuous?










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  • $begingroup$
    $f: I rightarrow {0,1} subset mathbb R$. Viewing the space containing the codomain as a subset of a larger set does not affect whether a function is continuous or not. Continuity is determined by the behavior of the domain.
    $endgroup$
    – fleablood
    May 20 '17 at 15:58






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    I have to wonder though if that proof isn't circular and it is my impression that the Intermediate Value Theorem relies upon the connectedness of intervals in its proof.
    $endgroup$
    – fleablood
    May 20 '17 at 15:59






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    It $is$ circular. I never liked this proof because just as you say, the various proofs of IVT use at some point, the fact that intervals are connected.
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    – Matematleta
    May 20 '17 at 16:02
















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The proof I've been given is




If not, there is a non-constant continuous $f$ from $I$ to
discrete ${0, 1}$. Then $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is also continuous which contradicts the Intermediate Value Theorem.




Why must $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ also be continuous?










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The proof I've been given is




If not, there is a non-constant continuous $f$ from $I$ to
discrete ${0, 1}$. Then $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is also continuous which contradicts the Intermediate Value Theorem.




Why must $f: I rightarrow mathbb{R}$ also be continuous?







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  • $begingroup$
    $f: I rightarrow {0,1} subset mathbb R$. Viewing the space containing the codomain as a subset of a larger set does not affect whether a function is continuous or not. Continuity is determined by the behavior of the domain.
    $endgroup$
    – fleablood
    May 20 '17 at 15:58






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I have to wonder though if that proof isn't circular and it is my impression that the Intermediate Value Theorem relies upon the connectedness of intervals in its proof.
    $endgroup$
    – fleablood
    May 20 '17 at 15:59






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It $is$ circular. I never liked this proof because just as you say, the various proofs of IVT use at some point, the fact that intervals are connected.
    $endgroup$
    – Matematleta
    May 20 '17 at 16:02




















  • $begingroup$
    $f: I rightarrow {0,1} subset mathbb R$. Viewing the space containing the codomain as a subset of a larger set does not affect whether a function is continuous or not. Continuity is determined by the behavior of the domain.
    $endgroup$
    – fleablood
    May 20 '17 at 15:58






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I have to wonder though if that proof isn't circular and it is my impression that the Intermediate Value Theorem relies upon the connectedness of intervals in its proof.
    $endgroup$
    – fleablood
    May 20 '17 at 15:59






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It $is$ circular. I never liked this proof because just as you say, the various proofs of IVT use at some point, the fact that intervals are connected.
    $endgroup$
    – Matematleta
    May 20 '17 at 16:02


















$begingroup$
$f: I rightarrow {0,1} subset mathbb R$. Viewing the space containing the codomain as a subset of a larger set does not affect whether a function is continuous or not. Continuity is determined by the behavior of the domain.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
May 20 '17 at 15:58




$begingroup$
$f: I rightarrow {0,1} subset mathbb R$. Viewing the space containing the codomain as a subset of a larger set does not affect whether a function is continuous or not. Continuity is determined by the behavior of the domain.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
May 20 '17 at 15:58




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$begingroup$
I have to wonder though if that proof isn't circular and it is my impression that the Intermediate Value Theorem relies upon the connectedness of intervals in its proof.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
May 20 '17 at 15:59




$begingroup$
I have to wonder though if that proof isn't circular and it is my impression that the Intermediate Value Theorem relies upon the connectedness of intervals in its proof.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
May 20 '17 at 15:59




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$begingroup$
It $is$ circular. I never liked this proof because just as you say, the various proofs of IVT use at some point, the fact that intervals are connected.
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 20 '17 at 16:02






$begingroup$
It $is$ circular. I never liked this proof because just as you say, the various proofs of IVT use at some point, the fact that intervals are connected.
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– Matematleta
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The inclusion ${0,1} to mathbb{R}$ is continuous because ${0,1}$ has the discrete topology.



Compositions of continuous functions are continuous.






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    If $I$ is not connected, then by definition there are $A$ and $B$ both open such that $A cup B=I$, if you consider $f$ such that $f(A)=0$ and $f(B)=1$ than this is a continuos function by definition, infact in $ {0,1} $ as a subset of $mathbb R$ there is the discrete topology and $ f^{-1}( {0,1})=I $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {0})=A $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {1})=B $ that is open and
    $ f^{-1}(emptyset)=emptyset $ that is open so you have a contraddiction with the IVT. However this demonstration is circular because you have to use the connectedness of $I$ for proving the IVT.






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      The inclusion ${0,1} to mathbb{R}$ is continuous because ${0,1}$ has the discrete topology.



      Compositions of continuous functions are continuous.






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        The inclusion ${0,1} to mathbb{R}$ is continuous because ${0,1}$ has the discrete topology.



        Compositions of continuous functions are continuous.






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          The inclusion ${0,1} to mathbb{R}$ is continuous because ${0,1}$ has the discrete topology.



          Compositions of continuous functions are continuous.






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          The inclusion ${0,1} to mathbb{R}$ is continuous because ${0,1}$ has the discrete topology.



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              If $I$ is not connected, then by definition there are $A$ and $B$ both open such that $A cup B=I$, if you consider $f$ such that $f(A)=0$ and $f(B)=1$ than this is a continuos function by definition, infact in $ {0,1} $ as a subset of $mathbb R$ there is the discrete topology and $ f^{-1}( {0,1})=I $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {0})=A $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {1})=B $ that is open and
              $ f^{-1}(emptyset)=emptyset $ that is open so you have a contraddiction with the IVT. However this demonstration is circular because you have to use the connectedness of $I$ for proving the IVT.






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                If $I$ is not connected, then by definition there are $A$ and $B$ both open such that $A cup B=I$, if you consider $f$ such that $f(A)=0$ and $f(B)=1$ than this is a continuos function by definition, infact in $ {0,1} $ as a subset of $mathbb R$ there is the discrete topology and $ f^{-1}( {0,1})=I $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {0})=A $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {1})=B $ that is open and
                $ f^{-1}(emptyset)=emptyset $ that is open so you have a contraddiction with the IVT. However this demonstration is circular because you have to use the connectedness of $I$ for proving the IVT.






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                  If $I$ is not connected, then by definition there are $A$ and $B$ both open such that $A cup B=I$, if you consider $f$ such that $f(A)=0$ and $f(B)=1$ than this is a continuos function by definition, infact in $ {0,1} $ as a subset of $mathbb R$ there is the discrete topology and $ f^{-1}( {0,1})=I $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {0})=A $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {1})=B $ that is open and
                  $ f^{-1}(emptyset)=emptyset $ that is open so you have a contraddiction with the IVT. However this demonstration is circular because you have to use the connectedness of $I$ for proving the IVT.






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                  If $I$ is not connected, then by definition there are $A$ and $B$ both open such that $A cup B=I$, if you consider $f$ such that $f(A)=0$ and $f(B)=1$ than this is a continuos function by definition, infact in $ {0,1} $ as a subset of $mathbb R$ there is the discrete topology and $ f^{-1}( {0,1})=I $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {0})=A $ that is open, $ f^{-1}( {1})=B $ that is open and
                  $ f^{-1}(emptyset)=emptyset $ that is open so you have a contraddiction with the IVT. However this demonstration is circular because you have to use the connectedness of $I$ for proving the IVT.







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