Inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{18}$











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Let $a$, $b$ and $c$ be positive numbers. Prove that:
$$frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}+frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}+frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{18}$$




Note that for $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$, the difference between the LHS and the RHS is around $0.0000158...$.



I tried to use Cauchy-Schwarz, but without success.










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    Is the function $f : (a,b,c) rightarrow sumlimits_{cyc} frac{6a^3}{13a^2+5b^2} $ concave? Also, C-S = "Cauchy-Schwarz inequality"? Avoid this kind of unconventional abbreviation, please.
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  • See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/1775572/…
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    May 8 '16 at 18:42






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    @Santropedro There is the following known inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{a^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{2}$. I think, it's just interesting, for which maximal value of $k$ the following inequality is still true. $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{ka^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{k+1}$.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Apr 19 '17 at 17:28






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    @Santropedro The value $,k=2.6,$ in the OP is pretty sharp. I found that $k=2.603279$ is already beyond: Then Michael's given $(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ violates the ineq..
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:24






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    Further result obtained via random-based simulation: $(0.785, 1.2535, 1.873)$ doesn't satisfy the inequality if $,k=2.603262,$. Below that $k$-value I didn't detect a violation.
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:50















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Let $a$, $b$ and $c$ be positive numbers. Prove that:
$$frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}+frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}+frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{18}$$




Note that for $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$, the difference between the LHS and the RHS is around $0.0000158...$.



I tried to use Cauchy-Schwarz, but without success.










share|cite|improve this question




















  • 2




    Is the function $f : (a,b,c) rightarrow sumlimits_{cyc} frac{6a^3}{13a^2+5b^2} $ concave? Also, C-S = "Cauchy-Schwarz inequality"? Avoid this kind of unconventional abbreviation, please.
    – Vincent
    May 8 '16 at 18:17












  • See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/1775572/…
    – David Quinn
    May 8 '16 at 18:42






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    @Santropedro There is the following known inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{a^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{2}$. I think, it's just interesting, for which maximal value of $k$ the following inequality is still true. $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{ka^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{k+1}$.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Apr 19 '17 at 17:28






  • 1




    @Santropedro The value $,k=2.6,$ in the OP is pretty sharp. I found that $k=2.603279$ is already beyond: Then Michael's given $(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ violates the ineq..
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:24






  • 1




    Further result obtained via random-based simulation: $(0.785, 1.2535, 1.873)$ doesn't satisfy the inequality if $,k=2.603262,$. Below that $k$-value I didn't detect a violation.
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:50













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Let $a$, $b$ and $c$ be positive numbers. Prove that:
$$frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}+frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}+frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{18}$$




Note that for $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$, the difference between the LHS and the RHS is around $0.0000158...$.



I tried to use Cauchy-Schwarz, but without success.










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Let $a$, $b$ and $c$ be positive numbers. Prove that:
$$frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}+frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}+frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{18}$$




Note that for $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$, the difference between the LHS and the RHS is around $0.0000158...$.



I tried to use Cauchy-Schwarz, but without success.







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  • 2




    Is the function $f : (a,b,c) rightarrow sumlimits_{cyc} frac{6a^3}{13a^2+5b^2} $ concave? Also, C-S = "Cauchy-Schwarz inequality"? Avoid this kind of unconventional abbreviation, please.
    – Vincent
    May 8 '16 at 18:17












  • See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/1775572/…
    – David Quinn
    May 8 '16 at 18:42






  • 1




    @Santropedro There is the following known inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{a^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{2}$. I think, it's just interesting, for which maximal value of $k$ the following inequality is still true. $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{ka^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{k+1}$.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Apr 19 '17 at 17:28






  • 1




    @Santropedro The value $,k=2.6,$ in the OP is pretty sharp. I found that $k=2.603279$ is already beyond: Then Michael's given $(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ violates the ineq..
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:24






  • 1




    Further result obtained via random-based simulation: $(0.785, 1.2535, 1.873)$ doesn't satisfy the inequality if $,k=2.603262,$. Below that $k$-value I didn't detect a violation.
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:50














  • 2




    Is the function $f : (a,b,c) rightarrow sumlimits_{cyc} frac{6a^3}{13a^2+5b^2} $ concave? Also, C-S = "Cauchy-Schwarz inequality"? Avoid this kind of unconventional abbreviation, please.
    – Vincent
    May 8 '16 at 18:17












  • See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/1775572/…
    – David Quinn
    May 8 '16 at 18:42






  • 1




    @Santropedro There is the following known inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{a^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{2}$. I think, it's just interesting, for which maximal value of $k$ the following inequality is still true. $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{ka^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{k+1}$.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Apr 19 '17 at 17:28






  • 1




    @Santropedro The value $,k=2.6,$ in the OP is pretty sharp. I found that $k=2.603279$ is already beyond: Then Michael's given $(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ violates the ineq..
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:24






  • 1




    Further result obtained via random-based simulation: $(0.785, 1.2535, 1.873)$ doesn't satisfy the inequality if $,k=2.603262,$. Below that $k$-value I didn't detect a violation.
    – Hanno
    May 11 '17 at 18:50








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Is the function $f : (a,b,c) rightarrow sumlimits_{cyc} frac{6a^3}{13a^2+5b^2} $ concave? Also, C-S = "Cauchy-Schwarz inequality"? Avoid this kind of unconventional abbreviation, please.
– Vincent
May 8 '16 at 18:17






Is the function $f : (a,b,c) rightarrow sumlimits_{cyc} frac{6a^3}{13a^2+5b^2} $ concave? Also, C-S = "Cauchy-Schwarz inequality"? Avoid this kind of unconventional abbreviation, please.
– Vincent
May 8 '16 at 18:17














See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/1775572/…
– David Quinn
May 8 '16 at 18:42




See also math.stackexchange.com/questions/1775572/…
– David Quinn
May 8 '16 at 18:42




1




1




@Santropedro There is the following known inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{a^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{2}$. I think, it's just interesting, for which maximal value of $k$ the following inequality is still true. $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{ka^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{k+1}$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Apr 19 '17 at 17:28




@Santropedro There is the following known inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{a^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{2}$. I think, it's just interesting, for which maximal value of $k$ the following inequality is still true. $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{a^3}{ka^2+b^2}geqfrac{a+b+c}{k+1}$.
– Michael Rozenberg
Apr 19 '17 at 17:28




1




1




@Santropedro The value $,k=2.6,$ in the OP is pretty sharp. I found that $k=2.603279$ is already beyond: Then Michael's given $(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ violates the ineq..
– Hanno
May 11 '17 at 18:24




@Santropedro The value $,k=2.6,$ in the OP is pretty sharp. I found that $k=2.603279$ is already beyond: Then Michael's given $(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ violates the ineq..
– Hanno
May 11 '17 at 18:24




1




1




Further result obtained via random-based simulation: $(0.785, 1.2535, 1.873)$ doesn't satisfy the inequality if $,k=2.603262,$. Below that $k$-value I didn't detect a violation.
– Hanno
May 11 '17 at 18:50




Further result obtained via random-based simulation: $(0.785, 1.2535, 1.873)$ doesn't satisfy the inequality if $,k=2.603262,$. Below that $k$-value I didn't detect a violation.
– Hanno
May 11 '17 at 18:50










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Your inequality is equivalent to :
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2geq frac{a+b+c}{18}$$
Each side is divided by $b$



We get :



$$frac{a}{13b} sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2+frac{1}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}))^2+frac{c}{13b}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}))^2geq frac{1+frac{a}{b}+frac{c}{b}}{18}$$



Now we put :



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}=x$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}=y$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}=z$



Your inequality is equivalent to :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}$$$$geq dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



With the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$



We study the following function :



$$f(x)=sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}-dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



This function is easily differentiable and the minimum is for $x=sqrt{frac{3sqrt{77}}{17}-frac{26}{17}}=alpha$



So with the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$ becomes $yz=frac{(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3}{alpha}=beta$



So we have this inequality just with $y$ :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(alpha)^3}{(alpha^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(frac{beta}{y})^2}{((frac{beta}{y})^2+1)}geqdfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}alpha+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



Wich is easily analyzable .



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  • Why the last inequality is true?
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:43












  • Wow you analyze rapidly (without irony).I check it with wolfram alpha but I will create a question for this I think .
    – max8128
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:45










  • We can check the starting inequality by WA without your previous work. But maybe WA is wrong (by the way, it happens sometimes!).
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 15:02






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    Delete please your "solution". I think it's not good, which you are doing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 16:59






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    I think it's nothing.
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Second proof :



We have the following theorem :




Let $a,b,c$ be real positive numbers then we have :
$$big(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}big)^2+big(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}big)^2+big(frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}big)^2geq frac{a^2+b^2+c^2}{18^2}$$




Proof :



The inequality is equivalent to this :



$$big(frac{1}{13+5x^2}big)^2+x^2big(frac{1}{13+5y^2}big)^2+frac{1}{z^2}big(frac{1}{13+5z^2}big)^2geq frac{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}{18^2}$$



With :



$x=frac{b}{a}$
,
$y=frac{c}{b}$,
$z=frac{a}{c}$



If we put $f(x)=(frac{1}{13+5x})^2$ we have :



$$f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)geq f(1)+f(1)x^2+f(1)frac{1}{z^2}$$



Or :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(1)$$



Now we can apply Jensen's inequality to the function $f(x)$ with the appropriate weight to get :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(frac{x^2+(xy)^2+frac{z^2}{z^2}}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}})=f(1)$$



So it's proved because we have the condition $xyz=1$.



Now it remains to prove the following inequality :



$$sum_{cyc}(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2})(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2})geq frac{ab+bc+ca}{18^2}$$



I put it in a question because I can't solve it now .






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  • The “it remains to prove” part is wrong, as the example $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ from the question shows.
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Your inequality is equivalent to :
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2geq frac{a+b+c}{18}$$
Each side is divided by $b$



We get :



$$frac{a}{13b} sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2+frac{1}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}))^2+frac{c}{13b}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}))^2geq frac{1+frac{a}{b}+frac{c}{b}}{18}$$



Now we put :



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}=x$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}=y$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}=z$



Your inequality is equivalent to :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}$$$$geq dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



With the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$



We study the following function :



$$f(x)=sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}-dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



This function is easily differentiable and the minimum is for $x=sqrt{frac{3sqrt{77}}{17}-frac{26}{17}}=alpha$



So with the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$ becomes $yz=frac{(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3}{alpha}=beta$



So we have this inequality just with $y$ :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(alpha)^3}{(alpha^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(frac{beta}{y})^2}{((frac{beta}{y})^2+1)}geqdfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}alpha+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



Wich is easily analyzable .



Done !






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  • Why the last inequality is true?
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:43












  • Wow you analyze rapidly (without irony).I check it with wolfram alpha but I will create a question for this I think .
    – max8128
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:45










  • We can check the starting inequality by WA without your previous work. But maybe WA is wrong (by the way, it happens sometimes!).
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 15:02






  • 1




    Delete please your "solution". I think it's not good, which you are doing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 16:59






  • 4




    I think it's nothing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 25 '17 at 11:15















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Your inequality is equivalent to :
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2geq frac{a+b+c}{18}$$
Each side is divided by $b$



We get :



$$frac{a}{13b} sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2+frac{1}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}))^2+frac{c}{13b}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}))^2geq frac{1+frac{a}{b}+frac{c}{b}}{18}$$



Now we put :



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}=x$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}=y$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}=z$



Your inequality is equivalent to :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}$$$$geq dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



With the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$



We study the following function :



$$f(x)=sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}-dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



This function is easily differentiable and the minimum is for $x=sqrt{frac{3sqrt{77}}{17}-frac{26}{17}}=alpha$



So with the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$ becomes $yz=frac{(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3}{alpha}=beta$



So we have this inequality just with $y$ :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(alpha)^3}{(alpha^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(frac{beta}{y})^2}{((frac{beta}{y})^2+1)}geqdfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}alpha+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



Wich is easily analyzable .



Done !






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  • Why the last inequality is true?
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:43












  • Wow you analyze rapidly (without irony).I check it with wolfram alpha but I will create a question for this I think .
    – max8128
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:45










  • We can check the starting inequality by WA without your previous work. But maybe WA is wrong (by the way, it happens sometimes!).
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 15:02






  • 1




    Delete please your "solution". I think it's not good, which you are doing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 16:59






  • 4




    I think it's nothing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 25 '17 at 11:15













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up vote
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Your inequality is equivalent to :
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2geq frac{a+b+c}{18}$$
Each side is divided by $b$



We get :



$$frac{a}{13b} sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2+frac{1}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}))^2+frac{c}{13b}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}))^2geq frac{1+frac{a}{b}+frac{c}{b}}{18}$$



Now we put :



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}=x$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}=y$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}=z$



Your inequality is equivalent to :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}$$$$geq dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



With the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$



We study the following function :



$$f(x)=sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}-dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



This function is easily differentiable and the minimum is for $x=sqrt{frac{3sqrt{77}}{17}-frac{26}{17}}=alpha$



So with the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$ becomes $yz=frac{(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3}{alpha}=beta$



So we have this inequality just with $y$ :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(alpha)^3}{(alpha^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(frac{beta}{y})^2}{((frac{beta}{y})^2+1)}geqdfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}alpha+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



Wich is easily analyzable .



Done !






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Your inequality is equivalent to :
$$sum_{cyc}frac{a}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2geq frac{a+b+c}{18}$$
Each side is divided by $b$



We get :



$$frac{a}{13b} sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}))^2+frac{1}{13}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}))^2+frac{c}{13b}sin(arctan(sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}))^2geq frac{1+frac{a}{b}+frac{c}{b}}{18}$$



Now we put :



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{a}{b}=x$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{b}{c}=y$



$sqrt{frac{13}{5}}frac{c}{a}=z$



Your inequality is equivalent to :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}$$$$geq dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



With the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$



We study the following function :



$$f(x)=sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(x)^3}{(x^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(z)^2}{(z^2+1)}-dfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}x+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



This function is easily differentiable and the minimum is for $x=sqrt{frac{3sqrt{77}}{17}-frac{26}{17}}=alpha$



So with the condition $xyz=(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3$ becomes $yz=frac{(sqrt{frac{13}{5}})^3}{alpha}=beta$



So we have this inequality just with $y$ :



$$sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}frac{1}{13}dfrac{(alpha)^3}{(alpha^2+1)}+dfrac{1}{13}dfrac{(y)^2}{(y^2+1)}+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{13(y)}dfrac{(frac{beta}{y})^2}{((frac{beta}{y})^2+1)}geqdfrac{1+sqrt{dfrac{5}{13}}alpha+sqrt{dfrac{13}{5}}dfrac{1}{y}}{18}$$



Wich is easily analyzable .



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  • Why the last inequality is true?
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:43












  • Wow you analyze rapidly (without irony).I check it with wolfram alpha but I will create a question for this I think .
    – max8128
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:45










  • We can check the starting inequality by WA without your previous work. But maybe WA is wrong (by the way, it happens sometimes!).
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 15:02






  • 1




    Delete please your "solution". I think it's not good, which you are doing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 16:59






  • 4




    I think it's nothing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 25 '17 at 11:15


















  • Why the last inequality is true?
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:43












  • Wow you analyze rapidly (without irony).I check it with wolfram alpha but I will create a question for this I think .
    – max8128
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:45










  • We can check the starting inequality by WA without your previous work. But maybe WA is wrong (by the way, it happens sometimes!).
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 15:02






  • 1




    Delete please your "solution". I think it's not good, which you are doing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 21 '17 at 16:59






  • 4




    I think it's nothing.
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Oct 25 '17 at 11:15
















Why the last inequality is true?
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 21 '17 at 14:43






Why the last inequality is true?
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 21 '17 at 14:43














Wow you analyze rapidly (without irony).I check it with wolfram alpha but I will create a question for this I think .
– max8128
Oct 21 '17 at 14:45




Wow you analyze rapidly (without irony).I check it with wolfram alpha but I will create a question for this I think .
– max8128
Oct 21 '17 at 14:45












We can check the starting inequality by WA without your previous work. But maybe WA is wrong (by the way, it happens sometimes!).
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 21 '17 at 15:02




We can check the starting inequality by WA without your previous work. But maybe WA is wrong (by the way, it happens sometimes!).
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 21 '17 at 15:02




1




1




Delete please your "solution". I think it's not good, which you are doing.
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 21 '17 at 16:59




Delete please your "solution". I think it's not good, which you are doing.
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 21 '17 at 16:59




4




4




I think it's nothing.
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 25 '17 at 11:15




I think it's nothing.
– Michael Rozenberg
Oct 25 '17 at 11:15










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Second proof :



We have the following theorem :




Let $a,b,c$ be real positive numbers then we have :
$$big(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}big)^2+big(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}big)^2+big(frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}big)^2geq frac{a^2+b^2+c^2}{18^2}$$




Proof :



The inequality is equivalent to this :



$$big(frac{1}{13+5x^2}big)^2+x^2big(frac{1}{13+5y^2}big)^2+frac{1}{z^2}big(frac{1}{13+5z^2}big)^2geq frac{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}{18^2}$$



With :



$x=frac{b}{a}$
,
$y=frac{c}{b}$,
$z=frac{a}{c}$



If we put $f(x)=(frac{1}{13+5x})^2$ we have :



$$f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)geq f(1)+f(1)x^2+f(1)frac{1}{z^2}$$



Or :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(1)$$



Now we can apply Jensen's inequality to the function $f(x)$ with the appropriate weight to get :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(frac{x^2+(xy)^2+frac{z^2}{z^2}}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}})=f(1)$$



So it's proved because we have the condition $xyz=1$.



Now it remains to prove the following inequality :



$$sum_{cyc}(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2})(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2})geq frac{ab+bc+ca}{18^2}$$



I put it in a question because I can't solve it now .






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  • The “it remains to prove” part is wrong, as the example $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ from the question shows.
    – Martin R
    Nov 23 at 9:01















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Second proof :



We have the following theorem :




Let $a,b,c$ be real positive numbers then we have :
$$big(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}big)^2+big(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}big)^2+big(frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}big)^2geq frac{a^2+b^2+c^2}{18^2}$$




Proof :



The inequality is equivalent to this :



$$big(frac{1}{13+5x^2}big)^2+x^2big(frac{1}{13+5y^2}big)^2+frac{1}{z^2}big(frac{1}{13+5z^2}big)^2geq frac{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}{18^2}$$



With :



$x=frac{b}{a}$
,
$y=frac{c}{b}$,
$z=frac{a}{c}$



If we put $f(x)=(frac{1}{13+5x})^2$ we have :



$$f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)geq f(1)+f(1)x^2+f(1)frac{1}{z^2}$$



Or :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(1)$$



Now we can apply Jensen's inequality to the function $f(x)$ with the appropriate weight to get :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(frac{x^2+(xy)^2+frac{z^2}{z^2}}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}})=f(1)$$



So it's proved because we have the condition $xyz=1$.



Now it remains to prove the following inequality :



$$sum_{cyc}(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2})(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2})geq frac{ab+bc+ca}{18^2}$$



I put it in a question because I can't solve it now .






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  • The “it remains to prove” part is wrong, as the example $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ from the question shows.
    – Martin R
    Nov 23 at 9:01













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up vote
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down vote









Second proof :



We have the following theorem :




Let $a,b,c$ be real positive numbers then we have :
$$big(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}big)^2+big(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}big)^2+big(frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}big)^2geq frac{a^2+b^2+c^2}{18^2}$$




Proof :



The inequality is equivalent to this :



$$big(frac{1}{13+5x^2}big)^2+x^2big(frac{1}{13+5y^2}big)^2+frac{1}{z^2}big(frac{1}{13+5z^2}big)^2geq frac{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}{18^2}$$



With :



$x=frac{b}{a}$
,
$y=frac{c}{b}$,
$z=frac{a}{c}$



If we put $f(x)=(frac{1}{13+5x})^2$ we have :



$$f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)geq f(1)+f(1)x^2+f(1)frac{1}{z^2}$$



Or :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(1)$$



Now we can apply Jensen's inequality to the function $f(x)$ with the appropriate weight to get :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(frac{x^2+(xy)^2+frac{z^2}{z^2}}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}})=f(1)$$



So it's proved because we have the condition $xyz=1$.



Now it remains to prove the following inequality :



$$sum_{cyc}(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2})(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2})geq frac{ab+bc+ca}{18^2}$$



I put it in a question because I can't solve it now .






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Second proof :



We have the following theorem :




Let $a,b,c$ be real positive numbers then we have :
$$big(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2}big)^2+big(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2}big)^2+big(frac{c^3}{13c^2+5a^2}big)^2geq frac{a^2+b^2+c^2}{18^2}$$




Proof :



The inequality is equivalent to this :



$$big(frac{1}{13+5x^2}big)^2+x^2big(frac{1}{13+5y^2}big)^2+frac{1}{z^2}big(frac{1}{13+5z^2}big)^2geq frac{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}{18^2}$$



With :



$x=frac{b}{a}$
,
$y=frac{c}{b}$,
$z=frac{a}{c}$



If we put $f(x)=(frac{1}{13+5x})^2$ we have :



$$f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)geq f(1)+f(1)x^2+f(1)frac{1}{z^2}$$



Or :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(1)$$



Now we can apply Jensen's inequality to the function $f(x)$ with the appropriate weight to get :



$$frac{f(x^2)+x^2f(y^2)+frac{1}{z^2}f(z^2)}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}}geq f(frac{x^2+(xy)^2+frac{z^2}{z^2}}{1+x^2+frac{1}{z^2}})=f(1)$$



So it's proved because we have the condition $xyz=1$.



Now it remains to prove the following inequality :



$$sum_{cyc}(frac{a^3}{13a^2+5b^2})(frac{b^3}{13b^2+5c^2})geq frac{ab+bc+ca}{18^2}$$



I put it in a question because I can't solve it now .







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  • The “it remains to prove” part is wrong, as the example $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ from the question shows.
    – Martin R
    Nov 23 at 9:01


















  • The “it remains to prove” part is wrong, as the example $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ from the question shows.
    – Martin R
    Nov 23 at 9:01
















The “it remains to prove” part is wrong, as the example $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ from the question shows.
– Martin R
Nov 23 at 9:01




The “it remains to prove” part is wrong, as the example $(a,b,c)=(0.785, 1.25, 1.861)$ from the question shows.
– Martin R
Nov 23 at 9:01


















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