Formula for product of sums of pairs of coprime divisors of $n$.












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Can we develop a formula for



$$
r(n)=prod_{
begin{array}{c}
x,ymid n \
(x,y)=1
end{array}}
(x+y)
$$



In words this is the product of sums of all coprime pairs of divisors of $n$.



For example
$$r(12)=(1+2)(1+3)(1+4)(1+6)(1+12)(2+3)(3+4)=191100$$



There is some information on the number of coprime pairs of divisors (A063647).



In answer to the comment, this problem comes from wanting to know whether a certain function of $n$ divides at least one of the $(x+y)$ terms. This is true iff the function divides $r(n)$. I have no idea if a nice form exists, but I would certainly accept a form in terms of the prime factorization of $n$.










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    Where did this problem come from and/or do you have a reason to believe there's a nice closed form expression for this?
    – Carl Schildkraut
    Nov 30 at 1:01










  • I mean you can write the prime factorization of $n$ and get an expression.
    – mathworker21
    Nov 30 at 1:07










  • "This is true iff the function divides r(n)." That's not true in general. f(n) = n+1 comes to mind...
    – Todor Markov
    Nov 30 at 18:36










  • True @TodorMarkov I realized this recently.
    – tyobrien
    Dec 1 at 16:08










  • However I may be able to show that my $f(n)$ is a prime...
    – tyobrien
    Dec 3 at 22:16
















0














Can we develop a formula for



$$
r(n)=prod_{
begin{array}{c}
x,ymid n \
(x,y)=1
end{array}}
(x+y)
$$



In words this is the product of sums of all coprime pairs of divisors of $n$.



For example
$$r(12)=(1+2)(1+3)(1+4)(1+6)(1+12)(2+3)(3+4)=191100$$



There is some information on the number of coprime pairs of divisors (A063647).



In answer to the comment, this problem comes from wanting to know whether a certain function of $n$ divides at least one of the $(x+y)$ terms. This is true iff the function divides $r(n)$. I have no idea if a nice form exists, but I would certainly accept a form in terms of the prime factorization of $n$.










share|cite|improve this question




















  • 4




    Where did this problem come from and/or do you have a reason to believe there's a nice closed form expression for this?
    – Carl Schildkraut
    Nov 30 at 1:01










  • I mean you can write the prime factorization of $n$ and get an expression.
    – mathworker21
    Nov 30 at 1:07










  • "This is true iff the function divides r(n)." That's not true in general. f(n) = n+1 comes to mind...
    – Todor Markov
    Nov 30 at 18:36










  • True @TodorMarkov I realized this recently.
    – tyobrien
    Dec 1 at 16:08










  • However I may be able to show that my $f(n)$ is a prime...
    – tyobrien
    Dec 3 at 22:16














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Can we develop a formula for



$$
r(n)=prod_{
begin{array}{c}
x,ymid n \
(x,y)=1
end{array}}
(x+y)
$$



In words this is the product of sums of all coprime pairs of divisors of $n$.



For example
$$r(12)=(1+2)(1+3)(1+4)(1+6)(1+12)(2+3)(3+4)=191100$$



There is some information on the number of coprime pairs of divisors (A063647).



In answer to the comment, this problem comes from wanting to know whether a certain function of $n$ divides at least one of the $(x+y)$ terms. This is true iff the function divides $r(n)$. I have no idea if a nice form exists, but I would certainly accept a form in terms of the prime factorization of $n$.










share|cite|improve this question















Can we develop a formula for



$$
r(n)=prod_{
begin{array}{c}
x,ymid n \
(x,y)=1
end{array}}
(x+y)
$$



In words this is the product of sums of all coprime pairs of divisors of $n$.



For example
$$r(12)=(1+2)(1+3)(1+4)(1+6)(1+12)(2+3)(3+4)=191100$$



There is some information on the number of coprime pairs of divisors (A063647).



In answer to the comment, this problem comes from wanting to know whether a certain function of $n$ divides at least one of the $(x+y)$ terms. This is true iff the function divides $r(n)$. I have no idea if a nice form exists, but I would certainly accept a form in terms of the prime factorization of $n$.







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  • 4




    Where did this problem come from and/or do you have a reason to believe there's a nice closed form expression for this?
    – Carl Schildkraut
    Nov 30 at 1:01










  • I mean you can write the prime factorization of $n$ and get an expression.
    – mathworker21
    Nov 30 at 1:07










  • "This is true iff the function divides r(n)." That's not true in general. f(n) = n+1 comes to mind...
    – Todor Markov
    Nov 30 at 18:36










  • True @TodorMarkov I realized this recently.
    – tyobrien
    Dec 1 at 16:08










  • However I may be able to show that my $f(n)$ is a prime...
    – tyobrien
    Dec 3 at 22:16














  • 4




    Where did this problem come from and/or do you have a reason to believe there's a nice closed form expression for this?
    – Carl Schildkraut
    Nov 30 at 1:01










  • I mean you can write the prime factorization of $n$ and get an expression.
    – mathworker21
    Nov 30 at 1:07










  • "This is true iff the function divides r(n)." That's not true in general. f(n) = n+1 comes to mind...
    – Todor Markov
    Nov 30 at 18:36










  • True @TodorMarkov I realized this recently.
    – tyobrien
    Dec 1 at 16:08










  • However I may be able to show that my $f(n)$ is a prime...
    – tyobrien
    Dec 3 at 22:16








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Where did this problem come from and/or do you have a reason to believe there's a nice closed form expression for this?
– Carl Schildkraut
Nov 30 at 1:01




Where did this problem come from and/or do you have a reason to believe there's a nice closed form expression for this?
– Carl Schildkraut
Nov 30 at 1:01












I mean you can write the prime factorization of $n$ and get an expression.
– mathworker21
Nov 30 at 1:07




I mean you can write the prime factorization of $n$ and get an expression.
– mathworker21
Nov 30 at 1:07












"This is true iff the function divides r(n)." That's not true in general. f(n) = n+1 comes to mind...
– Todor Markov
Nov 30 at 18:36




"This is true iff the function divides r(n)." That's not true in general. f(n) = n+1 comes to mind...
– Todor Markov
Nov 30 at 18:36












True @TodorMarkov I realized this recently.
– tyobrien
Dec 1 at 16:08




True @TodorMarkov I realized this recently.
– tyobrien
Dec 1 at 16:08












However I may be able to show that my $f(n)$ is a prime...
– tyobrien
Dec 3 at 22:16




However I may be able to show that my $f(n)$ is a prime...
– tyobrien
Dec 3 at 22:16















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