How to find center of a circle given 2 points on the circle












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I need a Formula for this: we have two points on the circle. How can we find the center of circle?



For example $A(4.2,5.2)$, $B(5.2,6.3)$.










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    Given two points $A$ and $B$, there is an infinite number of circle that pass by these two points..
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I need a Formula for this: we have two points on the circle. How can we find the center of circle?



For example $A(4.2,5.2)$, $B(5.2,6.3)$.










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    Given two points $A$ and $B$, there is an infinite number of circle that pass by these two points..
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  • i just give example for more realization
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I need a Formula for this: we have two points on the circle. How can we find the center of circle?



For example $A(4.2,5.2)$, $B(5.2,6.3)$.










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I need a Formula for this: we have two points on the circle. How can we find the center of circle?



For example $A(4.2,5.2)$, $B(5.2,6.3)$.







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    Given two points $A$ and $B$, there is an infinite number of circle that pass by these two points..
    – Tryss
    Jun 17 '15 at 9:21










  • i just give example for more realization
    – Vahid Akbari
    Jun 17 '15 at 9:27














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    Given two points $A$ and $B$, there is an infinite number of circle that pass by these two points..
    – Tryss
    Jun 17 '15 at 9:21










  • i just give example for more realization
    – Vahid Akbari
    Jun 17 '15 at 9:27








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Given two points $A$ and $B$, there is an infinite number of circle that pass by these two points..
– Tryss
Jun 17 '15 at 9:21




Given two points $A$ and $B$, there is an infinite number of circle that pass by these two points..
– Tryss
Jun 17 '15 at 9:21












i just give example for more realization
– Vahid Akbari
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i just give example for more realization
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Two points do not uniquely determine a circle, so one cannot determine the center of a circle from only two points. It generally takes 3 points to uniquely determine a circle.






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  • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
    – Vahid Akbari
    Jun 17 '15 at 9:24










  • how abou three point.can u give me formula???plz i need
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    Jun 17 '15 at 9:32



















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all we can say is that the centre of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$






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    HINT:



    The distance of any point from the center = radius



    Observe that we have two unknowns with one equation resulting in many solutions each corresponds to one circle.






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    • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
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      Jun 17 '15 at 9:25










    • @user1894566, How to find the distances from the two given points if $(h,k)$ is the center?
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    Admitting that you have three points $(x_1,y_1)$, $(x_2,y_2)$, $(x_3,y_3)$, the equation of the circle being $$(x-x_0)^2+(y-y_0)^2=r^2$$ you then have three equations for three unknowns $(x_0,y_0,r)$ $$F_1=(x_1-x_0)^2+(y_1-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_2=(x_2-x_0)^2+(y_2-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_3=(x_3-x_0)^2+(y_3-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ So, expand $F_2-F_1$ and $F_3-F_1$; these give two linear equations in $x_0$ and $y_0$ which are easy to solve. Then replace in $F_1$ to get $r$ if you want it.






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      You can not find the center of the circle from two points alone. However, given $A$ and $B$ we know that the center of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$. Indeed the perpendicular bisector of $AB$ is exactly the locus of points equidistant to $A$ and $B$. Had you had three points, you would have three perpendicular bisectors, that just so happen to intersect in one point, which is the center of the circumscribed circle.



      Letting $A=(x_1,y_1)$ and $B=(x_2,y_2)$, their center is at $(frac{x_1+x_2}{2},frac{y_1+y_2}{2})$. The slope of the perpendicular bisector is $frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}$, so the equation of the line is:



      $$y-frac{y_1+y_2}{2}=frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}cdotleft(x-frac{x_1+x_2}{2}right)$$



      Any coordinate pair satisfying this equation gives the center of some circle containing $A$ and $B$.






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        Basically, you can't. As others have noted, with two points you can find a whole line of possible center: the axis of the segment joining the two points. All the points on the axis are at the same distance from the two points.



        Building the axis of the segment between two points $A,B$ is easy: draw the circumference centered at $A$ through $B$, draw the one through $A$ centered at $B$, intersect them and join the intersection, that line is the axis.



        Finding its equation is a bit more tricky. Basically it's the same process done with calculations. If $A=(a_1,a_2)$ and $B=(b_1,b_2)$, then the circumferences are $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2=r^2$ where $r^2=(b_1-a_1)^2+(b_2-a^2)^2$, and $(x-b_1)^2+(y-b_2)^2=r^2$. Expand the squares, set the LHS's equal and you should find two intersections. Say you get intersections $(x_1,y_1),(x_2,y_2)$. The line through these is the axis, and has equation $y-y_1=frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}(x-x_1)$.



        To find a single center, you need either another point (and thus you have $A,B,C$, find the axes of $AB$ and $AC$ or of any couple of segments you like best, and intersect them), or the circle drawn, so one axis passes through the center and thus if you take the segment of the axis lying within the circumference and draw the axis of that you find the center.






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          To be more precise, There are two possible centres for your circle, which are both equidistant from the line containing A and B and are equidistant from the perpendicular bisector of A and B.



          Consider the points $A(x_1, y_1)$ and $B(x_2, y_2)$.



          Now consider the loci radius $r$ around each point.



          The equation of the locus around A will be $(x - x_1)^2 + (y - y_1)^2 = r^2$



          The equation of the locus around B will be $(x - x_2)^2 + (y - y_2)^2 = r^2$



          The point of intersection of these loci will be the points that are both a distance $r$ away from $A$ and $B$. This means that if you draw a circle radius $r$ around either point of intersection, the circle will contain both $A$ and $B$.



          After doing the necessary mathematics, I figured out that the two centres of the circles are contained within the following quadratic formula in $y^2$ which return the resulting $y$-ordinates.



          $(frac{(y_1 - y_2)^2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2} + 1)y^2 + frac{y_1 - y_2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2}((x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2) + 2x_1(x_1 - x_2))y + (frac{(x_2^2 + y_2^2) - (x_1^2 + y_1^2)}{2(x_1 - x_2)})^2 + x_1(frac{(x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2)}{(x_1 - x_2)}) + x_1^2 + y_1^2 - r^2 = 0$



          Pretty equation, huh?



          This is in the form $ay^2 + by + c = 0$



          Which means to obtain the two $y$-ordinates, you're going to have to use the quadratic formula which is $y = frac{-bpmsqrt{{b^2 - 4ac}}}{2a}$



          To then obtain the $x$-ordinate of the centre of the circle, simply substitute in the value of y into the equation obtained when subtracting the equation of the two loci.






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          • When answering an older Question, as is the case here, it helps your Readers to identify what (if anything) the new Answer adds to the several which were already posted.
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          • I just updated the post with a formula to quickly plug in numbers and obtain a numeric answer. If you'd like to see the proof - it contains some really mind-bending algebra. It took me a while, but I got it.
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          • As you can see from earlier Answers and Comments, two points on the circle is not enough to determine one or even two circles with those points. You have introduced a radius, presumably at least half the distance between the two points. So in that respect your approach is a new take, albeit with extra information not given by the OP.
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          Two points do not uniquely determine a circle, so one cannot determine the center of a circle from only two points. It generally takes 3 points to uniquely determine a circle.






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          • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
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          • how abou three point.can u give me formula???plz i need
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          Two points do not uniquely determine a circle, so one cannot determine the center of a circle from only two points. It generally takes 3 points to uniquely determine a circle.






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          • how abou three point.can u give me formula???plz i need
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          Two points do not uniquely determine a circle, so one cannot determine the center of a circle from only two points. It generally takes 3 points to uniquely determine a circle.






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          Two points do not uniquely determine a circle, so one cannot determine the center of a circle from only two points. It generally takes 3 points to uniquely determine a circle.







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          • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
            – Vahid Akbari
            Jun 17 '15 at 9:24










          • how abou three point.can u give me formula???plz i need
            – Vahid Akbari
            Jun 17 '15 at 9:32


















          • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
            – Vahid Akbari
            Jun 17 '15 at 9:24










          • how abou three point.can u give me formula???plz i need
            – Vahid Akbari
            Jun 17 '15 at 9:32
















          we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
          – Vahid Akbari
          Jun 17 '15 at 9:24




          we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
          – Vahid Akbari
          Jun 17 '15 at 9:24












          how abou three point.can u give me formula???plz i need
          – Vahid Akbari
          Jun 17 '15 at 9:32




          how abou three point.can u give me formula???plz i need
          – Vahid Akbari
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          all we can say is that the centre of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$






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              all we can say is that the centre of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$






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                  HINT:



                  The distance of any point from the center = radius



                  Observe that we have two unknowns with one equation resulting in many solutions each corresponds to one circle.






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                  • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
                    – Vahid Akbari
                    Jun 17 '15 at 9:25










                  • @user1894566, How to find the distances from the two given points if $(h,k)$ is the center?
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                  The distance of any point from the center = radius



                  Observe that we have two unknowns with one equation resulting in many solutions each corresponds to one circle.






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                  • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
                    – Vahid Akbari
                    Jun 17 '15 at 9:25










                  • @user1894566, How to find the distances from the two given points if $(h,k)$ is the center?
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                  The distance of any point from the center = radius



                  Observe that we have two unknowns with one equation resulting in many solutions each corresponds to one circle.






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                  HINT:



                  The distance of any point from the center = radius



                  Observe that we have two unknowns with one equation resulting in many solutions each corresponds to one circle.







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                  • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
                    – Vahid Akbari
                    Jun 17 '15 at 9:25










                  • @user1894566, How to find the distances from the two given points if $(h,k)$ is the center?
                    – lab bhattacharjee
                    Jun 17 '15 at 9:32




















                  • we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
                    – Vahid Akbari
                    Jun 17 '15 at 9:25










                  • @user1894566, How to find the distances from the two given points if $(h,k)$ is the center?
                    – lab bhattacharjee
                    Jun 17 '15 at 9:32


















                  we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
                  – Vahid Akbari
                  Jun 17 '15 at 9:25




                  we just have two point on circl and we have not radius and center.is there any way???
                  – Vahid Akbari
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                  @user1894566, How to find the distances from the two given points if $(h,k)$ is the center?
                  – lab bhattacharjee
                  Jun 17 '15 at 9:32






                  @user1894566, How to find the distances from the two given points if $(h,k)$ is the center?
                  – lab bhattacharjee
                  Jun 17 '15 at 9:32













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                  Admitting that you have three points $(x_1,y_1)$, $(x_2,y_2)$, $(x_3,y_3)$, the equation of the circle being $$(x-x_0)^2+(y-y_0)^2=r^2$$ you then have three equations for three unknowns $(x_0,y_0,r)$ $$F_1=(x_1-x_0)^2+(y_1-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_2=(x_2-x_0)^2+(y_2-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_3=(x_3-x_0)^2+(y_3-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ So, expand $F_2-F_1$ and $F_3-F_1$; these give two linear equations in $x_0$ and $y_0$ which are easy to solve. Then replace in $F_1$ to get $r$ if you want it.






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                    Admitting that you have three points $(x_1,y_1)$, $(x_2,y_2)$, $(x_3,y_3)$, the equation of the circle being $$(x-x_0)^2+(y-y_0)^2=r^2$$ you then have three equations for three unknowns $(x_0,y_0,r)$ $$F_1=(x_1-x_0)^2+(y_1-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_2=(x_2-x_0)^2+(y_2-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_3=(x_3-x_0)^2+(y_3-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ So, expand $F_2-F_1$ and $F_3-F_1$; these give two linear equations in $x_0$ and $y_0$ which are easy to solve. Then replace in $F_1$ to get $r$ if you want it.






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                      Admitting that you have three points $(x_1,y_1)$, $(x_2,y_2)$, $(x_3,y_3)$, the equation of the circle being $$(x-x_0)^2+(y-y_0)^2=r^2$$ you then have three equations for three unknowns $(x_0,y_0,r)$ $$F_1=(x_1-x_0)^2+(y_1-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_2=(x_2-x_0)^2+(y_2-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_3=(x_3-x_0)^2+(y_3-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ So, expand $F_2-F_1$ and $F_3-F_1$; these give two linear equations in $x_0$ and $y_0$ which are easy to solve. Then replace in $F_1$ to get $r$ if you want it.






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                      Admitting that you have three points $(x_1,y_1)$, $(x_2,y_2)$, $(x_3,y_3)$, the equation of the circle being $$(x-x_0)^2+(y-y_0)^2=r^2$$ you then have three equations for three unknowns $(x_0,y_0,r)$ $$F_1=(x_1-x_0)^2+(y_1-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_2=(x_2-x_0)^2+(y_2-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ $$F_3=(x_3-x_0)^2+(y_3-y_0)^2-r^2=0$$ So, expand $F_2-F_1$ and $F_3-F_1$; these give two linear equations in $x_0$ and $y_0$ which are easy to solve. Then replace in $F_1$ to get $r$ if you want it.







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                          You can not find the center of the circle from two points alone. However, given $A$ and $B$ we know that the center of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$. Indeed the perpendicular bisector of $AB$ is exactly the locus of points equidistant to $A$ and $B$. Had you had three points, you would have three perpendicular bisectors, that just so happen to intersect in one point, which is the center of the circumscribed circle.



                          Letting $A=(x_1,y_1)$ and $B=(x_2,y_2)$, their center is at $(frac{x_1+x_2}{2},frac{y_1+y_2}{2})$. The slope of the perpendicular bisector is $frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}$, so the equation of the line is:



                          $$y-frac{y_1+y_2}{2}=frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}cdotleft(x-frac{x_1+x_2}{2}right)$$



                          Any coordinate pair satisfying this equation gives the center of some circle containing $A$ and $B$.






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                            You can not find the center of the circle from two points alone. However, given $A$ and $B$ we know that the center of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$. Indeed the perpendicular bisector of $AB$ is exactly the locus of points equidistant to $A$ and $B$. Had you had three points, you would have three perpendicular bisectors, that just so happen to intersect in one point, which is the center of the circumscribed circle.



                            Letting $A=(x_1,y_1)$ and $B=(x_2,y_2)$, their center is at $(frac{x_1+x_2}{2},frac{y_1+y_2}{2})$. The slope of the perpendicular bisector is $frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}$, so the equation of the line is:



                            $$y-frac{y_1+y_2}{2}=frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}cdotleft(x-frac{x_1+x_2}{2}right)$$



                            Any coordinate pair satisfying this equation gives the center of some circle containing $A$ and $B$.






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                              You can not find the center of the circle from two points alone. However, given $A$ and $B$ we know that the center of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$. Indeed the perpendicular bisector of $AB$ is exactly the locus of points equidistant to $A$ and $B$. Had you had three points, you would have three perpendicular bisectors, that just so happen to intersect in one point, which is the center of the circumscribed circle.



                              Letting $A=(x_1,y_1)$ and $B=(x_2,y_2)$, their center is at $(frac{x_1+x_2}{2},frac{y_1+y_2}{2})$. The slope of the perpendicular bisector is $frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}$, so the equation of the line is:



                              $$y-frac{y_1+y_2}{2}=frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}cdotleft(x-frac{x_1+x_2}{2}right)$$



                              Any coordinate pair satisfying this equation gives the center of some circle containing $A$ and $B$.






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                              You can not find the center of the circle from two points alone. However, given $A$ and $B$ we know that the center of the circle lies on the perpendicular bisector of $AB$. Indeed the perpendicular bisector of $AB$ is exactly the locus of points equidistant to $A$ and $B$. Had you had three points, you would have three perpendicular bisectors, that just so happen to intersect in one point, which is the center of the circumscribed circle.



                              Letting $A=(x_1,y_1)$ and $B=(x_2,y_2)$, their center is at $(frac{x_1+x_2}{2},frac{y_1+y_2}{2})$. The slope of the perpendicular bisector is $frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}$, so the equation of the line is:



                              $$y-frac{y_1+y_2}{2}=frac{x_1-x_2}{y_2-y_1}cdotleft(x-frac{x_1+x_2}{2}right)$$



                              Any coordinate pair satisfying this equation gives the center of some circle containing $A$ and $B$.







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                                  Basically, you can't. As others have noted, with two points you can find a whole line of possible center: the axis of the segment joining the two points. All the points on the axis are at the same distance from the two points.



                                  Building the axis of the segment between two points $A,B$ is easy: draw the circumference centered at $A$ through $B$, draw the one through $A$ centered at $B$, intersect them and join the intersection, that line is the axis.



                                  Finding its equation is a bit more tricky. Basically it's the same process done with calculations. If $A=(a_1,a_2)$ and $B=(b_1,b_2)$, then the circumferences are $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2=r^2$ where $r^2=(b_1-a_1)^2+(b_2-a^2)^2$, and $(x-b_1)^2+(y-b_2)^2=r^2$. Expand the squares, set the LHS's equal and you should find two intersections. Say you get intersections $(x_1,y_1),(x_2,y_2)$. The line through these is the axis, and has equation $y-y_1=frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}(x-x_1)$.



                                  To find a single center, you need either another point (and thus you have $A,B,C$, find the axes of $AB$ and $AC$ or of any couple of segments you like best, and intersect them), or the circle drawn, so one axis passes through the center and thus if you take the segment of the axis lying within the circumference and draw the axis of that you find the center.






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                                    Basically, you can't. As others have noted, with two points you can find a whole line of possible center: the axis of the segment joining the two points. All the points on the axis are at the same distance from the two points.



                                    Building the axis of the segment between two points $A,B$ is easy: draw the circumference centered at $A$ through $B$, draw the one through $A$ centered at $B$, intersect them and join the intersection, that line is the axis.



                                    Finding its equation is a bit more tricky. Basically it's the same process done with calculations. If $A=(a_1,a_2)$ and $B=(b_1,b_2)$, then the circumferences are $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2=r^2$ where $r^2=(b_1-a_1)^2+(b_2-a^2)^2$, and $(x-b_1)^2+(y-b_2)^2=r^2$. Expand the squares, set the LHS's equal and you should find two intersections. Say you get intersections $(x_1,y_1),(x_2,y_2)$. The line through these is the axis, and has equation $y-y_1=frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}(x-x_1)$.



                                    To find a single center, you need either another point (and thus you have $A,B,C$, find the axes of $AB$ and $AC$ or of any couple of segments you like best, and intersect them), or the circle drawn, so one axis passes through the center and thus if you take the segment of the axis lying within the circumference and draw the axis of that you find the center.






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                                      Basically, you can't. As others have noted, with two points you can find a whole line of possible center: the axis of the segment joining the two points. All the points on the axis are at the same distance from the two points.



                                      Building the axis of the segment between two points $A,B$ is easy: draw the circumference centered at $A$ through $B$, draw the one through $A$ centered at $B$, intersect them and join the intersection, that line is the axis.



                                      Finding its equation is a bit more tricky. Basically it's the same process done with calculations. If $A=(a_1,a_2)$ and $B=(b_1,b_2)$, then the circumferences are $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2=r^2$ where $r^2=(b_1-a_1)^2+(b_2-a^2)^2$, and $(x-b_1)^2+(y-b_2)^2=r^2$. Expand the squares, set the LHS's equal and you should find two intersections. Say you get intersections $(x_1,y_1),(x_2,y_2)$. The line through these is the axis, and has equation $y-y_1=frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}(x-x_1)$.



                                      To find a single center, you need either another point (and thus you have $A,B,C$, find the axes of $AB$ and $AC$ or of any couple of segments you like best, and intersect them), or the circle drawn, so one axis passes through the center and thus if you take the segment of the axis lying within the circumference and draw the axis of that you find the center.






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                                      Basically, you can't. As others have noted, with two points you can find a whole line of possible center: the axis of the segment joining the two points. All the points on the axis are at the same distance from the two points.



                                      Building the axis of the segment between two points $A,B$ is easy: draw the circumference centered at $A$ through $B$, draw the one through $A$ centered at $B$, intersect them and join the intersection, that line is the axis.



                                      Finding its equation is a bit more tricky. Basically it's the same process done with calculations. If $A=(a_1,a_2)$ and $B=(b_1,b_2)$, then the circumferences are $(x-a_1)^2+(y-a_2)^2=r^2$ where $r^2=(b_1-a_1)^2+(b_2-a^2)^2$, and $(x-b_1)^2+(y-b_2)^2=r^2$. Expand the squares, set the LHS's equal and you should find two intersections. Say you get intersections $(x_1,y_1),(x_2,y_2)$. The line through these is the axis, and has equation $y-y_1=frac{y_2-y_1}{x_2-x_1}(x-x_1)$.



                                      To find a single center, you need either another point (and thus you have $A,B,C$, find the axes of $AB$ and $AC$ or of any couple of segments you like best, and intersect them), or the circle drawn, so one axis passes through the center and thus if you take the segment of the axis lying within the circumference and draw the axis of that you find the center.







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                                          To be more precise, There are two possible centres for your circle, which are both equidistant from the line containing A and B and are equidistant from the perpendicular bisector of A and B.



                                          Consider the points $A(x_1, y_1)$ and $B(x_2, y_2)$.



                                          Now consider the loci radius $r$ around each point.



                                          The equation of the locus around A will be $(x - x_1)^2 + (y - y_1)^2 = r^2$



                                          The equation of the locus around B will be $(x - x_2)^2 + (y - y_2)^2 = r^2$



                                          The point of intersection of these loci will be the points that are both a distance $r$ away from $A$ and $B$. This means that if you draw a circle radius $r$ around either point of intersection, the circle will contain both $A$ and $B$.



                                          After doing the necessary mathematics, I figured out that the two centres of the circles are contained within the following quadratic formula in $y^2$ which return the resulting $y$-ordinates.



                                          $(frac{(y_1 - y_2)^2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2} + 1)y^2 + frac{y_1 - y_2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2}((x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2) + 2x_1(x_1 - x_2))y + (frac{(x_2^2 + y_2^2) - (x_1^2 + y_1^2)}{2(x_1 - x_2)})^2 + x_1(frac{(x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2)}{(x_1 - x_2)}) + x_1^2 + y_1^2 - r^2 = 0$



                                          Pretty equation, huh?



                                          This is in the form $ay^2 + by + c = 0$



                                          Which means to obtain the two $y$-ordinates, you're going to have to use the quadratic formula which is $y = frac{-bpmsqrt{{b^2 - 4ac}}}{2a}$



                                          To then obtain the $x$-ordinate of the centre of the circle, simply substitute in the value of y into the equation obtained when subtracting the equation of the two loci.






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                                          • When answering an older Question, as is the case here, it helps your Readers to identify what (if anything) the new Answer adds to the several which were already posted.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 16 '16 at 13:48










                                          • I just updated the post with a formula to quickly plug in numbers and obtain a numeric answer. If you'd like to see the proof - it contains some really mind-bending algebra. It took me a while, but I got it.
                                            – EwilDawe
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 16:16










                                          • As you can see from earlier Answers and Comments, two points on the circle is not enough to determine one or even two circles with those points. You have introduced a radius, presumably at least half the distance between the two points. So in that respect your approach is a new take, albeit with extra information not given by the OP.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 21:59
















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                                          To be more precise, There are two possible centres for your circle, which are both equidistant from the line containing A and B and are equidistant from the perpendicular bisector of A and B.



                                          Consider the points $A(x_1, y_1)$ and $B(x_2, y_2)$.



                                          Now consider the loci radius $r$ around each point.



                                          The equation of the locus around A will be $(x - x_1)^2 + (y - y_1)^2 = r^2$



                                          The equation of the locus around B will be $(x - x_2)^2 + (y - y_2)^2 = r^2$



                                          The point of intersection of these loci will be the points that are both a distance $r$ away from $A$ and $B$. This means that if you draw a circle radius $r$ around either point of intersection, the circle will contain both $A$ and $B$.



                                          After doing the necessary mathematics, I figured out that the two centres of the circles are contained within the following quadratic formula in $y^2$ which return the resulting $y$-ordinates.



                                          $(frac{(y_1 - y_2)^2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2} + 1)y^2 + frac{y_1 - y_2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2}((x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2) + 2x_1(x_1 - x_2))y + (frac{(x_2^2 + y_2^2) - (x_1^2 + y_1^2)}{2(x_1 - x_2)})^2 + x_1(frac{(x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2)}{(x_1 - x_2)}) + x_1^2 + y_1^2 - r^2 = 0$



                                          Pretty equation, huh?



                                          This is in the form $ay^2 + by + c = 0$



                                          Which means to obtain the two $y$-ordinates, you're going to have to use the quadratic formula which is $y = frac{-bpmsqrt{{b^2 - 4ac}}}{2a}$



                                          To then obtain the $x$-ordinate of the centre of the circle, simply substitute in the value of y into the equation obtained when subtracting the equation of the two loci.






                                          share|cite|improve this answer























                                          • When answering an older Question, as is the case here, it helps your Readers to identify what (if anything) the new Answer adds to the several which were already posted.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 16 '16 at 13:48










                                          • I just updated the post with a formula to quickly plug in numbers and obtain a numeric answer. If you'd like to see the proof - it contains some really mind-bending algebra. It took me a while, but I got it.
                                            – EwilDawe
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 16:16










                                          • As you can see from earlier Answers and Comments, two points on the circle is not enough to determine one or even two circles with those points. You have introduced a radius, presumably at least half the distance between the two points. So in that respect your approach is a new take, albeit with extra information not given by the OP.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 21:59














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                                          To be more precise, There are two possible centres for your circle, which are both equidistant from the line containing A and B and are equidistant from the perpendicular bisector of A and B.



                                          Consider the points $A(x_1, y_1)$ and $B(x_2, y_2)$.



                                          Now consider the loci radius $r$ around each point.



                                          The equation of the locus around A will be $(x - x_1)^2 + (y - y_1)^2 = r^2$



                                          The equation of the locus around B will be $(x - x_2)^2 + (y - y_2)^2 = r^2$



                                          The point of intersection of these loci will be the points that are both a distance $r$ away from $A$ and $B$. This means that if you draw a circle radius $r$ around either point of intersection, the circle will contain both $A$ and $B$.



                                          After doing the necessary mathematics, I figured out that the two centres of the circles are contained within the following quadratic formula in $y^2$ which return the resulting $y$-ordinates.



                                          $(frac{(y_1 - y_2)^2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2} + 1)y^2 + frac{y_1 - y_2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2}((x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2) + 2x_1(x_1 - x_2))y + (frac{(x_2^2 + y_2^2) - (x_1^2 + y_1^2)}{2(x_1 - x_2)})^2 + x_1(frac{(x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2)}{(x_1 - x_2)}) + x_1^2 + y_1^2 - r^2 = 0$



                                          Pretty equation, huh?



                                          This is in the form $ay^2 + by + c = 0$



                                          Which means to obtain the two $y$-ordinates, you're going to have to use the quadratic formula which is $y = frac{-bpmsqrt{{b^2 - 4ac}}}{2a}$



                                          To then obtain the $x$-ordinate of the centre of the circle, simply substitute in the value of y into the equation obtained when subtracting the equation of the two loci.






                                          share|cite|improve this answer














                                          To be more precise, There are two possible centres for your circle, which are both equidistant from the line containing A and B and are equidistant from the perpendicular bisector of A and B.



                                          Consider the points $A(x_1, y_1)$ and $B(x_2, y_2)$.



                                          Now consider the loci radius $r$ around each point.



                                          The equation of the locus around A will be $(x - x_1)^2 + (y - y_1)^2 = r^2$



                                          The equation of the locus around B will be $(x - x_2)^2 + (y - y_2)^2 = r^2$



                                          The point of intersection of these loci will be the points that are both a distance $r$ away from $A$ and $B$. This means that if you draw a circle radius $r$ around either point of intersection, the circle will contain both $A$ and $B$.



                                          After doing the necessary mathematics, I figured out that the two centres of the circles are contained within the following quadratic formula in $y^2$ which return the resulting $y$-ordinates.



                                          $(frac{(y_1 - y_2)^2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2} + 1)y^2 + frac{y_1 - y_2}{(x_1 - x_2)^2}((x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2) + 2x_1(x_1 - x_2))y + (frac{(x_2^2 + y_2^2) - (x_1^2 + y_1^2)}{2(x_1 - x_2)})^2 + x_1(frac{(x_1^2 + y_1^2) - (x_2^2 + y_2^2)}{(x_1 - x_2)}) + x_1^2 + y_1^2 - r^2 = 0$



                                          Pretty equation, huh?



                                          This is in the form $ay^2 + by + c = 0$



                                          Which means to obtain the two $y$-ordinates, you're going to have to use the quadratic formula which is $y = frac{-bpmsqrt{{b^2 - 4ac}}}{2a}$



                                          To then obtain the $x$-ordinate of the centre of the circle, simply substitute in the value of y into the equation obtained when subtracting the equation of the two loci.







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                                          • When answering an older Question, as is the case here, it helps your Readers to identify what (if anything) the new Answer adds to the several which were already posted.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 16 '16 at 13:48










                                          • I just updated the post with a formula to quickly plug in numbers and obtain a numeric answer. If you'd like to see the proof - it contains some really mind-bending algebra. It took me a while, but I got it.
                                            – EwilDawe
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 16:16










                                          • As you can see from earlier Answers and Comments, two points on the circle is not enough to determine one or even two circles with those points. You have introduced a radius, presumably at least half the distance between the two points. So in that respect your approach is a new take, albeit with extra information not given by the OP.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 21:59


















                                          • When answering an older Question, as is the case here, it helps your Readers to identify what (if anything) the new Answer adds to the several which were already posted.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 16 '16 at 13:48










                                          • I just updated the post with a formula to quickly plug in numbers and obtain a numeric answer. If you'd like to see the proof - it contains some really mind-bending algebra. It took me a while, but I got it.
                                            – EwilDawe
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 16:16










                                          • As you can see from earlier Answers and Comments, two points on the circle is not enough to determine one or even two circles with those points. You have introduced a radius, presumably at least half the distance between the two points. So in that respect your approach is a new take, albeit with extra information not given by the OP.
                                            – hardmath
                                            Jan 17 '16 at 21:59
















                                          When answering an older Question, as is the case here, it helps your Readers to identify what (if anything) the new Answer adds to the several which were already posted.
                                          – hardmath
                                          Jan 16 '16 at 13:48




                                          When answering an older Question, as is the case here, it helps your Readers to identify what (if anything) the new Answer adds to the several which were already posted.
                                          – hardmath
                                          Jan 16 '16 at 13:48












                                          I just updated the post with a formula to quickly plug in numbers and obtain a numeric answer. If you'd like to see the proof - it contains some really mind-bending algebra. It took me a while, but I got it.
                                          – EwilDawe
                                          Jan 17 '16 at 16:16




                                          I just updated the post with a formula to quickly plug in numbers and obtain a numeric answer. If you'd like to see the proof - it contains some really mind-bending algebra. It took me a while, but I got it.
                                          – EwilDawe
                                          Jan 17 '16 at 16:16












                                          As you can see from earlier Answers and Comments, two points on the circle is not enough to determine one or even two circles with those points. You have introduced a radius, presumably at least half the distance between the two points. So in that respect your approach is a new take, albeit with extra information not given by the OP.
                                          – hardmath
                                          Jan 17 '16 at 21:59




                                          As you can see from earlier Answers and Comments, two points on the circle is not enough to determine one or even two circles with those points. You have introduced a radius, presumably at least half the distance between the two points. So in that respect your approach is a new take, albeit with extra information not given by the OP.
                                          – hardmath
                                          Jan 17 '16 at 21:59


















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