Gaussian expectation for a rational function











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Suppose $X_1, X_2, ..., X_N$ are i.i.d with Gaussian distribution with unit mean and variance $sigma^2$, can we find the following expectation ?



begin{equation}
mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{equation}



Actually I wanted to calculate following expectation, then I realized I need that :



begin{align}
&mathbb{E} left[frac{X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=mathbb{E} left[frac{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=1-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{align}










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  • Do you know about the non-central chi-squared distribution?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:25










  • @kimchilover I know, but I am actually looking into expectation of inverse of (Chi-Square +1)
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:27










  • So you have a 1 dimensional integral: a rational function integrated against a gamma-ish density thing. I guess I'm asking, have you written out such an integral and checked conditions for convergence, and checked for its presence in handbooks of definite integrals? Can you do the same for the central chi-squared distribution, as a warm up exercise?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:31










  • @kimchilover I believ I have looked at that before, I 'll try it again with more devotion, I thought I may be missing something obvious and somebody can help me.
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:36










  • Just for reference, we have $$mathbb{E}left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+cdots+X_N^2}right]=int_{0}^{infty}frac{e^{-t}}{(1+2sigma^2t)^{N/2}},dt.$$ This integral can be represented in terms of incomplete gamma function.
    – Sangchul Lee
    Aug 20 at 4:43

















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Suppose $X_1, X_2, ..., X_N$ are i.i.d with Gaussian distribution with unit mean and variance $sigma^2$, can we find the following expectation ?



begin{equation}
mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{equation}



Actually I wanted to calculate following expectation, then I realized I need that :



begin{align}
&mathbb{E} left[frac{X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=mathbb{E} left[frac{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=1-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{align}










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  • Do you know about the non-central chi-squared distribution?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:25










  • @kimchilover I know, but I am actually looking into expectation of inverse of (Chi-Square +1)
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:27










  • So you have a 1 dimensional integral: a rational function integrated against a gamma-ish density thing. I guess I'm asking, have you written out such an integral and checked conditions for convergence, and checked for its presence in handbooks of definite integrals? Can you do the same for the central chi-squared distribution, as a warm up exercise?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:31










  • @kimchilover I believ I have looked at that before, I 'll try it again with more devotion, I thought I may be missing something obvious and somebody can help me.
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:36










  • Just for reference, we have $$mathbb{E}left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+cdots+X_N^2}right]=int_{0}^{infty}frac{e^{-t}}{(1+2sigma^2t)^{N/2}},dt.$$ This integral can be represented in terms of incomplete gamma function.
    – Sangchul Lee
    Aug 20 at 4:43















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Suppose $X_1, X_2, ..., X_N$ are i.i.d with Gaussian distribution with unit mean and variance $sigma^2$, can we find the following expectation ?



begin{equation}
mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{equation}



Actually I wanted to calculate following expectation, then I realized I need that :



begin{align}
&mathbb{E} left[frac{X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=mathbb{E} left[frac{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=1-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{align}










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Suppose $X_1, X_2, ..., X_N$ are i.i.d with Gaussian distribution with unit mean and variance $sigma^2$, can we find the following expectation ?



begin{equation}
mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{equation}



Actually I wanted to calculate following expectation, then I realized I need that :



begin{align}
&mathbb{E} left[frac{X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=mathbb{E} left[frac{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]\
&qquad=1-mathbb{E} left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+X_2^2+...+X_N^2}right]
end{align}







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  • Do you know about the non-central chi-squared distribution?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:25










  • @kimchilover I know, but I am actually looking into expectation of inverse of (Chi-Square +1)
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:27










  • So you have a 1 dimensional integral: a rational function integrated against a gamma-ish density thing. I guess I'm asking, have you written out such an integral and checked conditions for convergence, and checked for its presence in handbooks of definite integrals? Can you do the same for the central chi-squared distribution, as a warm up exercise?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:31










  • @kimchilover I believ I have looked at that before, I 'll try it again with more devotion, I thought I may be missing something obvious and somebody can help me.
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:36










  • Just for reference, we have $$mathbb{E}left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+cdots+X_N^2}right]=int_{0}^{infty}frac{e^{-t}}{(1+2sigma^2t)^{N/2}},dt.$$ This integral can be represented in terms of incomplete gamma function.
    – Sangchul Lee
    Aug 20 at 4:43




















  • Do you know about the non-central chi-squared distribution?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:25










  • @kimchilover I know, but I am actually looking into expectation of inverse of (Chi-Square +1)
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:27










  • So you have a 1 dimensional integral: a rational function integrated against a gamma-ish density thing. I guess I'm asking, have you written out such an integral and checked conditions for convergence, and checked for its presence in handbooks of definite integrals? Can you do the same for the central chi-squared distribution, as a warm up exercise?
    – kimchi lover
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:31










  • @kimchilover I believ I have looked at that before, I 'll try it again with more devotion, I thought I may be missing something obvious and somebody can help me.
    – Alireza
    Aug 12 '17 at 1:36










  • Just for reference, we have $$mathbb{E}left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+cdots+X_N^2}right]=int_{0}^{infty}frac{e^{-t}}{(1+2sigma^2t)^{N/2}},dt.$$ This integral can be represented in terms of incomplete gamma function.
    – Sangchul Lee
    Aug 20 at 4:43


















Do you know about the non-central chi-squared distribution?
– kimchi lover
Aug 12 '17 at 1:25




Do you know about the non-central chi-squared distribution?
– kimchi lover
Aug 12 '17 at 1:25












@kimchilover I know, but I am actually looking into expectation of inverse of (Chi-Square +1)
– Alireza
Aug 12 '17 at 1:27




@kimchilover I know, but I am actually looking into expectation of inverse of (Chi-Square +1)
– Alireza
Aug 12 '17 at 1:27












So you have a 1 dimensional integral: a rational function integrated against a gamma-ish density thing. I guess I'm asking, have you written out such an integral and checked conditions for convergence, and checked for its presence in handbooks of definite integrals? Can you do the same for the central chi-squared distribution, as a warm up exercise?
– kimchi lover
Aug 12 '17 at 1:31




So you have a 1 dimensional integral: a rational function integrated against a gamma-ish density thing. I guess I'm asking, have you written out such an integral and checked conditions for convergence, and checked for its presence in handbooks of definite integrals? Can you do the same for the central chi-squared distribution, as a warm up exercise?
– kimchi lover
Aug 12 '17 at 1:31












@kimchilover I believ I have looked at that before, I 'll try it again with more devotion, I thought I may be missing something obvious and somebody can help me.
– Alireza
Aug 12 '17 at 1:36




@kimchilover I believ I have looked at that before, I 'll try it again with more devotion, I thought I may be missing something obvious and somebody can help me.
– Alireza
Aug 12 '17 at 1:36












Just for reference, we have $$mathbb{E}left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+cdots+X_N^2}right]=int_{0}^{infty}frac{e^{-t}}{(1+2sigma^2t)^{N/2}},dt.$$ This integral can be represented in terms of incomplete gamma function.
– Sangchul Lee
Aug 20 at 4:43






Just for reference, we have $$mathbb{E}left[frac{1}{1+X_1^2+cdots+X_N^2}right]=int_{0}^{infty}frac{e^{-t}}{(1+2sigma^2t)^{N/2}},dt.$$ This integral can be represented in terms of incomplete gamma function.
– Sangchul Lee
Aug 20 at 4:43












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Using my favorite trick:
$$F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N {e^{-asum X^2_i}over{1+sum X^2_i}}$$
$$F(a)={1over 1-{dover da}}int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}$$
$$(1-{dover da})F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i} $$
define
$$F(a)=u(a)e^{a}$$
and we get
$$u'(a)e^{a}=Cint dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}=C a^{-N/2}$$
$$u'(a)=e^{-a}a^{-N/2}$$
$$F(a)=C e^a int_a da' e^{-a'}a'^{-N/2}$$
setting $a=1$ will give the required integral






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    Using my favorite trick:
    $$F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N {e^{-asum X^2_i}over{1+sum X^2_i}}$$
    $$F(a)={1over 1-{dover da}}int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}$$
    $$(1-{dover da})F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i} $$
    define
    $$F(a)=u(a)e^{a}$$
    and we get
    $$u'(a)e^{a}=Cint dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}=C a^{-N/2}$$
    $$u'(a)=e^{-a}a^{-N/2}$$
    $$F(a)=C e^a int_a da' e^{-a'}a'^{-N/2}$$
    setting $a=1$ will give the required integral






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      Using my favorite trick:
      $$F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N {e^{-asum X^2_i}over{1+sum X^2_i}}$$
      $$F(a)={1over 1-{dover da}}int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}$$
      $$(1-{dover da})F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i} $$
      define
      $$F(a)=u(a)e^{a}$$
      and we get
      $$u'(a)e^{a}=Cint dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}=C a^{-N/2}$$
      $$u'(a)=e^{-a}a^{-N/2}$$
      $$F(a)=C e^a int_a da' e^{-a'}a'^{-N/2}$$
      setting $a=1$ will give the required integral






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        Using my favorite trick:
        $$F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N {e^{-asum X^2_i}over{1+sum X^2_i}}$$
        $$F(a)={1over 1-{dover da}}int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}$$
        $$(1-{dover da})F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i} $$
        define
        $$F(a)=u(a)e^{a}$$
        and we get
        $$u'(a)e^{a}=Cint dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}=C a^{-N/2}$$
        $$u'(a)=e^{-a}a^{-N/2}$$
        $$F(a)=C e^a int_a da' e^{-a'}a'^{-N/2}$$
        setting $a=1$ will give the required integral






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        Using my favorite trick:
        $$F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N {e^{-asum X^2_i}over{1+sum X^2_i}}$$
        $$F(a)={1over 1-{dover da}}int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}$$
        $$(1-{dover da})F(a)=int dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i} $$
        define
        $$F(a)=u(a)e^{a}$$
        and we get
        $$u'(a)e^{a}=Cint dX_1 cdots dX_N e^{-asum X^2_i}=C a^{-N/2}$$
        $$u'(a)=e^{-a}a^{-N/2}$$
        $$F(a)=C e^a int_a da' e^{-a'}a'^{-N/2}$$
        setting $a=1$ will give the required integral







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