$sum q^nsin(nx)$ complex analysis
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How to solve this one?
$$sum_{k=1}^n q^k sin(kx) = S(q,n)$$ where $n$ is natural number and $q$ is a real number
I already got the formula $$S(q,n) = Imleft(frac{qexp(ix)(1-q^nexp(nix))}{1-qexp(ix)}right)$$
but I don't know how to simplify the $1-qexp(ix)$ using the formulas
$$ sin(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)-exp(-iφ)}{2i}$$
$$ cos(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)+exp(-iφ)}{2},.$$
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How to solve this one?
$$sum_{k=1}^n q^k sin(kx) = S(q,n)$$ where $n$ is natural number and $q$ is a real number
I already got the formula $$S(q,n) = Imleft(frac{qexp(ix)(1-q^nexp(nix))}{1-qexp(ix)}right)$$
but I don't know how to simplify the $1-qexp(ix)$ using the formulas
$$ sin(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)-exp(-iφ)}{2i}$$
$$ cos(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)+exp(-iφ)}{2},.$$
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$e^{ix}=cos, x+isin, x$. Hyperbolic functions are not involved.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 8:00
@SergeiVolkov: You have assumed $|qe^{ix}|<1$, but why?
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:10
Hm... I don't understand why you have the factor of $q e^{ix}$ in the numerator of $S_n$. The summation starts from 0 so the first term is equal to 1
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:32
@MikalaiParshutsich: The first term is $0$ since $sin kx$ is $0$ when $k=0$ and has rewritten the summation $displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k sin(kx)=:text{Imaginary part}:left(displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k e^{ikx}right)$.
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:34
@YadatiKiran... Oh yeah! My mistake =(
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:36
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How to solve this one?
$$sum_{k=1}^n q^k sin(kx) = S(q,n)$$ where $n$ is natural number and $q$ is a real number
I already got the formula $$S(q,n) = Imleft(frac{qexp(ix)(1-q^nexp(nix))}{1-qexp(ix)}right)$$
but I don't know how to simplify the $1-qexp(ix)$ using the formulas
$$ sin(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)-exp(-iφ)}{2i}$$
$$ cos(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)+exp(-iφ)}{2},.$$
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How to solve this one?
$$sum_{k=1}^n q^k sin(kx) = S(q,n)$$ where $n$ is natural number and $q$ is a real number
I already got the formula $$S(q,n) = Imleft(frac{qexp(ix)(1-q^nexp(nix))}{1-qexp(ix)}right)$$
but I don't know how to simplify the $1-qexp(ix)$ using the formulas
$$ sin(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)-exp(-iφ)}{2i}$$
$$ cos(φ)=frac{exp(iφ)+exp(-iφ)}{2},.$$
complex-analysis complex-numbers
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$e^{ix}=cos, x+isin, x$. Hyperbolic functions are not involved.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 8:00
@SergeiVolkov: You have assumed $|qe^{ix}|<1$, but why?
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:10
Hm... I don't understand why you have the factor of $q e^{ix}$ in the numerator of $S_n$. The summation starts from 0 so the first term is equal to 1
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:32
@MikalaiParshutsich: The first term is $0$ since $sin kx$ is $0$ when $k=0$ and has rewritten the summation $displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k sin(kx)=:text{Imaginary part}:left(displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k e^{ikx}right)$.
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:34
@YadatiKiran... Oh yeah! My mistake =(
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:36
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$e^{ix}=cos, x+isin, x$. Hyperbolic functions are not involved.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 8:00
@SergeiVolkov: You have assumed $|qe^{ix}|<1$, but why?
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:10
Hm... I don't understand why you have the factor of $q e^{ix}$ in the numerator of $S_n$. The summation starts from 0 so the first term is equal to 1
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:32
@MikalaiParshutsich: The first term is $0$ since $sin kx$ is $0$ when $k=0$ and has rewritten the summation $displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k sin(kx)=:text{Imaginary part}:left(displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k e^{ikx}right)$.
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:34
@YadatiKiran... Oh yeah! My mistake =(
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:36
$e^{ix}=cos, x+isin, x$. Hyperbolic functions are not involved.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 8:00
$e^{ix}=cos, x+isin, x$. Hyperbolic functions are not involved.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 8:00
@SergeiVolkov: You have assumed $|qe^{ix}|<1$, but why?
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:10
@SergeiVolkov: You have assumed $|qe^{ix}|<1$, but why?
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:10
Hm... I don't understand why you have the factor of $q e^{ix}$ in the numerator of $S_n$. The summation starts from 0 so the first term is equal to 1
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:32
Hm... I don't understand why you have the factor of $q e^{ix}$ in the numerator of $S_n$. The summation starts from 0 so the first term is equal to 1
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:32
@MikalaiParshutsich: The first term is $0$ since $sin kx$ is $0$ when $k=0$ and has rewritten the summation $displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k sin(kx)=:text{Imaginary part}:left(displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k e^{ikx}right)$.
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:34
@MikalaiParshutsich: The first term is $0$ since $sin kx$ is $0$ when $k=0$ and has rewritten the summation $displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k sin(kx)=:text{Imaginary part}:left(displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k e^{ikx}right)$.
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:34
@YadatiKiran... Oh yeah! My mistake =(
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:36
@YadatiKiran... Oh yeah! My mistake =(
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:36
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Let me recast your formula using $n-1$ instead of $n$, for convenience. First, we reduce the calculation to the sum of a geometric progression
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}},,$$
where we have used
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} s^k = frac{1-s^n}{1-s}
$$
(this is easily proved for $sneq 1$ multiplying both sides by $1-s$ and noting the telescopic sum on the left-hand side; for $sto1$, the right-hand side reduces to $n$).
Now,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2},,
$$
whose imaginary part is
$$
frac{qsin x(1-q^ncos(nx))-q^n sin(nx) (1-qcos x)}{(1-qcos x)^2+(q sin x)^2},.
$$
Simplifying slightly, by means of trigonometric formulas,
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = frac{qsin x - q^n sin(nx)+q^{n+1}sin((n-1)x)}{1-2qcos x+q^2},.
$$
thank you a lot
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 22 at 19:57
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Well, I have this solution for the problem:
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k1}^{n}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} ,,
$$
as a geometric series (I don't know why $|q, e^{ix}|<1$ as you said).
Then,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}q, e^{ix}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2}q, (cosx+isinx),,
$$
and
then simplifying the last expressions just by opening the brackets and then using the formula for the $sin$ of the sum we get
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = qfrac{q^{n+1}sin(nx)-q^{n}sin((n+1)x)+sin x}{q^2-2qcos x+1}, .
$$
Sorry, I firstly haven't caught that in the sum k is going not from the 0 but from 1, that is my mistake.
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Even if you let the sum start from $k=1$ instead of $k=0$, what you are doing is nothing but subtracting 1 (a real number) and hence you do not alter the imaginary part and the result (if you will, the imaginary part of 1 is 0). Secondly, at no point there is an assumption on the absolute value of $q e^{ix}$, since you are considering a finite sum! The formula $sum_{j=0}^{n-1} a^j=(1-a^{n})/(1-a)$ is valid for any $aneq 1$ and the sum just gives $n$ as $ato1$.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:12
thank you for your explanation, I'll try to understand this thing
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 23 at 20:30
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Let me recast your formula using $n-1$ instead of $n$, for convenience. First, we reduce the calculation to the sum of a geometric progression
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}},,$$
where we have used
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} s^k = frac{1-s^n}{1-s}
$$
(this is easily proved for $sneq 1$ multiplying both sides by $1-s$ and noting the telescopic sum on the left-hand side; for $sto1$, the right-hand side reduces to $n$).
Now,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2},,
$$
whose imaginary part is
$$
frac{qsin x(1-q^ncos(nx))-q^n sin(nx) (1-qcos x)}{(1-qcos x)^2+(q sin x)^2},.
$$
Simplifying slightly, by means of trigonometric formulas,
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = frac{qsin x - q^n sin(nx)+q^{n+1}sin((n-1)x)}{1-2qcos x+q^2},.
$$
thank you a lot
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 22 at 19:57
Hi @SergeiVolkov welcome to Stack Exchange. In case you find that an answer indeed fits the question you have asked, it is customary to accept it by clicking on the "tick" symbol on the left.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:05
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Let me recast your formula using $n-1$ instead of $n$, for convenience. First, we reduce the calculation to the sum of a geometric progression
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}},,$$
where we have used
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} s^k = frac{1-s^n}{1-s}
$$
(this is easily proved for $sneq 1$ multiplying both sides by $1-s$ and noting the telescopic sum on the left-hand side; for $sto1$, the right-hand side reduces to $n$).
Now,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2},,
$$
whose imaginary part is
$$
frac{qsin x(1-q^ncos(nx))-q^n sin(nx) (1-qcos x)}{(1-qcos x)^2+(q sin x)^2},.
$$
Simplifying slightly, by means of trigonometric formulas,
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = frac{qsin x - q^n sin(nx)+q^{n+1}sin((n-1)x)}{1-2qcos x+q^2},.
$$
thank you a lot
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 22 at 19:57
Hi @SergeiVolkov welcome to Stack Exchange. In case you find that an answer indeed fits the question you have asked, it is customary to accept it by clicking on the "tick" symbol on the left.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:05
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Let me recast your formula using $n-1$ instead of $n$, for convenience. First, we reduce the calculation to the sum of a geometric progression
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}},,$$
where we have used
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} s^k = frac{1-s^n}{1-s}
$$
(this is easily proved for $sneq 1$ multiplying both sides by $1-s$ and noting the telescopic sum on the left-hand side; for $sto1$, the right-hand side reduces to $n$).
Now,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2},,
$$
whose imaginary part is
$$
frac{qsin x(1-q^ncos(nx))-q^n sin(nx) (1-qcos x)}{(1-qcos x)^2+(q sin x)^2},.
$$
Simplifying slightly, by means of trigonometric formulas,
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = frac{qsin x - q^n sin(nx)+q^{n+1}sin((n-1)x)}{1-2qcos x+q^2},.
$$
Let me recast your formula using $n-1$ instead of $n$, for convenience. First, we reduce the calculation to the sum of a geometric progression
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}},,$$
where we have used
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} s^k = frac{1-s^n}{1-s}
$$
(this is easily proved for $sneq 1$ multiplying both sides by $1-s$ and noting the telescopic sum on the left-hand side; for $sto1$, the right-hand side reduces to $n$).
Now,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2},,
$$
whose imaginary part is
$$
frac{qsin x(1-q^ncos(nx))-q^n sin(nx) (1-qcos x)}{(1-qcos x)^2+(q sin x)^2},.
$$
Simplifying slightly, by means of trigonometric formulas,
$$
sum_{k=0}^{n-1} q^k sin(kx) = frac{qsin x - q^n sin(nx)+q^{n+1}sin((n-1)x)}{1-2qcos x+q^2},.
$$
answered Nov 22 at 9:43
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thank you a lot
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 22 at 19:57
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thank you a lot
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 22 at 19:57
Hi @SergeiVolkov welcome to Stack Exchange. In case you find that an answer indeed fits the question you have asked, it is customary to accept it by clicking on the "tick" symbol on the left.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:05
thank you a lot
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 22 at 19:57
thank you a lot
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 22 at 19:57
Hi @SergeiVolkov welcome to Stack Exchange. In case you find that an answer indeed fits the question you have asked, it is customary to accept it by clicking on the "tick" symbol on the left.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:05
Hi @SergeiVolkov welcome to Stack Exchange. In case you find that an answer indeed fits the question you have asked, it is customary to accept it by clicking on the "tick" symbol on the left.
– Brightsun
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Well, I have this solution for the problem:
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k1}^{n}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} ,,
$$
as a geometric series (I don't know why $|q, e^{ix}|<1$ as you said).
Then,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}q, e^{ix}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2}q, (cosx+isinx),,
$$
and
then simplifying the last expressions just by opening the brackets and then using the formula for the $sin$ of the sum we get
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = qfrac{q^{n+1}sin(nx)-q^{n}sin((n+1)x)+sin x}{q^2-2qcos x+1}, .
$$
Sorry, I firstly haven't caught that in the sum k is going not from the 0 but from 1, that is my mistake.
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Even if you let the sum start from $k=1$ instead of $k=0$, what you are doing is nothing but subtracting 1 (a real number) and hence you do not alter the imaginary part and the result (if you will, the imaginary part of 1 is 0). Secondly, at no point there is an assumption on the absolute value of $q e^{ix}$, since you are considering a finite sum! The formula $sum_{j=0}^{n-1} a^j=(1-a^{n})/(1-a)$ is valid for any $aneq 1$ and the sum just gives $n$ as $ato1$.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:12
thank you for your explanation, I'll try to understand this thing
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 23 at 20:30
add a comment |
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Well, I have this solution for the problem:
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k1}^{n}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} ,,
$$
as a geometric series (I don't know why $|q, e^{ix}|<1$ as you said).
Then,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}q, e^{ix}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2}q, (cosx+isinx),,
$$
and
then simplifying the last expressions just by opening the brackets and then using the formula for the $sin$ of the sum we get
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = qfrac{q^{n+1}sin(nx)-q^{n}sin((n+1)x)+sin x}{q^2-2qcos x+1}, .
$$
Sorry, I firstly haven't caught that in the sum k is going not from the 0 but from 1, that is my mistake.
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Sergei Volkov is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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Even if you let the sum start from $k=1$ instead of $k=0$, what you are doing is nothing but subtracting 1 (a real number) and hence you do not alter the imaginary part and the result (if you will, the imaginary part of 1 is 0). Secondly, at no point there is an assumption on the absolute value of $q e^{ix}$, since you are considering a finite sum! The formula $sum_{j=0}^{n-1} a^j=(1-a^{n})/(1-a)$ is valid for any $aneq 1$ and the sum just gives $n$ as $ato1$.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:12
thank you for your explanation, I'll try to understand this thing
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 23 at 20:30
add a comment |
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Well, I have this solution for the problem:
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k1}^{n}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} ,,
$$
as a geometric series (I don't know why $|q, e^{ix}|<1$ as you said).
Then,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}q, e^{ix}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2}q, (cosx+isinx),,
$$
and
then simplifying the last expressions just by opening the brackets and then using the formula for the $sin$ of the sum we get
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = qfrac{q^{n+1}sin(nx)-q^{n}sin((n+1)x)+sin x}{q^2-2qcos x+1}, .
$$
Sorry, I firstly haven't caught that in the sum k is going not from the 0 but from 1, that is my mistake.
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Well, I have this solution for the problem:
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = Im sum_{k1}^{n}(q, e^{ix})^k
= Im frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} ,,
$$
as a geometric series (I don't know why $|q, e^{ix}|<1$ as you said).
Then,
$$
frac{1-(q, e^{ix})^{n}}{1-q, e^{ix}}q, e^{ix} =frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{1-qcos x -iq sin x}q, e^{ix}=(1-qcos x+i q sin x)frac{1-q^ncos(nx)-iq^nsin(nx)}{(1-qcos x)^2 + (q sin x)^2}q, (cosx+isinx),,
$$
and
then simplifying the last expressions just by opening the brackets and then using the formula for the $sin$ of the sum we get
$$
sum_{k=1}^{n} q^k sin(kx) = qfrac{q^{n+1}sin(nx)-q^{n}sin((n+1)x)+sin x}{q^2-2qcos x+1}, .
$$
Sorry, I firstly haven't caught that in the sum k is going not from the 0 but from 1, that is my mistake.
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Even if you let the sum start from $k=1$ instead of $k=0$, what you are doing is nothing but subtracting 1 (a real number) and hence you do not alter the imaginary part and the result (if you will, the imaginary part of 1 is 0). Secondly, at no point there is an assumption on the absolute value of $q e^{ix}$, since you are considering a finite sum! The formula $sum_{j=0}^{n-1} a^j=(1-a^{n})/(1-a)$ is valid for any $aneq 1$ and the sum just gives $n$ as $ato1$.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:12
thank you for your explanation, I'll try to understand this thing
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 23 at 20:30
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Even if you let the sum start from $k=1$ instead of $k=0$, what you are doing is nothing but subtracting 1 (a real number) and hence you do not alter the imaginary part and the result (if you will, the imaginary part of 1 is 0). Secondly, at no point there is an assumption on the absolute value of $q e^{ix}$, since you are considering a finite sum! The formula $sum_{j=0}^{n-1} a^j=(1-a^{n})/(1-a)$ is valid for any $aneq 1$ and the sum just gives $n$ as $ato1$.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:12
thank you for your explanation, I'll try to understand this thing
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 23 at 20:30
Even if you let the sum start from $k=1$ instead of $k=0$, what you are doing is nothing but subtracting 1 (a real number) and hence you do not alter the imaginary part and the result (if you will, the imaginary part of 1 is 0). Secondly, at no point there is an assumption on the absolute value of $q e^{ix}$, since you are considering a finite sum! The formula $sum_{j=0}^{n-1} a^j=(1-a^{n})/(1-a)$ is valid for any $aneq 1$ and the sum just gives $n$ as $ato1$.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:12
Even if you let the sum start from $k=1$ instead of $k=0$, what you are doing is nothing but subtracting 1 (a real number) and hence you do not alter the imaginary part and the result (if you will, the imaginary part of 1 is 0). Secondly, at no point there is an assumption on the absolute value of $q e^{ix}$, since you are considering a finite sum! The formula $sum_{j=0}^{n-1} a^j=(1-a^{n})/(1-a)$ is valid for any $aneq 1$ and the sum just gives $n$ as $ato1$.
– Brightsun
Nov 23 at 14:12
thank you for your explanation, I'll try to understand this thing
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 23 at 20:30
thank you for your explanation, I'll try to understand this thing
– Sergei Volkov
Nov 23 at 20:30
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$e^{ix}=cos, x+isin, x$. Hyperbolic functions are not involved.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 22 at 8:00
@SergeiVolkov: You have assumed $|qe^{ix}|<1$, but why?
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:10
Hm... I don't understand why you have the factor of $q e^{ix}$ in the numerator of $S_n$. The summation starts from 0 so the first term is equal to 1
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:32
@MikalaiParshutsich: The first term is $0$ since $sin kx$ is $0$ when $k=0$ and has rewritten the summation $displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k sin(kx)=:text{Imaginary part}:left(displaystylesum_{k=0}^n q^k e^{ikx}right)$.
– Yadati Kiran
Nov 22 at 9:34
@YadatiKiran... Oh yeah! My mistake =(
– Mikalai Parshutsich
Nov 22 at 9:36