Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is choose the correct option
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Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is
choose the correct option
$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$
$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$
i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem
Is its True ?
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Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is
choose the correct option
$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$
$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$
i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem
Is its True ?
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It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
– John Douma
yesterday
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Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is
choose the correct option
$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$
$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$
i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem
Is its True ?
real-analysis metric-spaces compactness
Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is
choose the correct option
$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$
$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$
$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$
i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem
Is its True ?
real-analysis metric-spaces compactness
real-analysis metric-spaces compactness
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It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
– John Douma
yesterday
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It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
– John Douma
yesterday
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It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
– John Douma
yesterday
It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
– John Douma
yesterday
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The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.
It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday
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But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday
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The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
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(typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
– egreg
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The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.
It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
1
s/also/doesn't/
(typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
– egreg
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.
It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
1
s/also/doesn't/
(typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
– egreg
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
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1
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accepted
The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.
The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.
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answered yesterday
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It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
1
s/also/doesn't/
(typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
– egreg
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
1
s/also/doesn't/
(typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
– egreg
yesterday
It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday
It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
1
But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday
Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday
1
1
The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday
1
1
s/also/doesn't/
(typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?– egreg
yesterday
s/also/doesn't/
(typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?– egreg
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
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