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Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is



choose the correct option



$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$



$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$



i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem



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    It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
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Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is



choose the correct option



$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$



$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$



i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem



Is its True ?










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    It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
    – John Douma
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Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is



choose the correct option



$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$



$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$



i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem



Is its True ?










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Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is



choose the correct option



$1)$ compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$2)$closed and bounded in $mathbb{Q}$



$3)$Not compact in $mathbb{Q}$



$4)$ closed and unbounded in $mathbb{Q}$



i thinks option $1)$ and $2)$ option will be correct by Heine Boral theorem



Is its True ?







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    It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
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    It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
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It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
– John Douma
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It is not. You must think more carefully about compactness.
– John Douma
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The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.






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  • It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
    – John Douma
    yesterday








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    But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday










  • Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
    – John Douma
    yesterday






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    The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday






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    s/also/doesn't/ (typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
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The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.






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  • It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
    – John Douma
    yesterday








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    But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday










  • Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
    – John Douma
    yesterday






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    The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday






  • 1




    s/also/doesn't/ (typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
    – egreg
    yesterday

















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The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.






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  • It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
    – John Douma
    yesterday








  • 1




    But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday










  • Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
    – John Douma
    yesterday






  • 1




    The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday






  • 1




    s/also/doesn't/ (typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
    – egreg
    yesterday















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The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.






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The set $A$ is not closed in $mathbb R$. For instance, $sqrt2$ belongs to $overline A$, but not to $A$. So, $A$ is not compact and 1) doesn't hold. Besides, $A$ is clearly bounded and also closed in $mathbb Q$, so 2) holds and 4) also hold. The correct choices are 2) and 3). If you want to show directly that $A$ is not compact (in $mathbb Q$ or in $mathbb R$, it doesn't matter), use the fact that it is not a closed set.







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  • It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
    – John Douma
    yesterday








  • 1




    But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday










  • Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
    – John Douma
    yesterday






  • 1




    The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday






  • 1




    s/also/doesn't/ (typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
    – egreg
    yesterday




















  • It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
    – John Douma
    yesterday








  • 1




    But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday










  • Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
    – John Douma
    yesterday






  • 1




    The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
    – José Carlos Santos
    yesterday






  • 1




    s/also/doesn't/ (typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
    – egreg
    yesterday


















It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday






It is closed in $mathbb Q$ because its complement is open.
– John Douma
yesterday






1




1




But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday




But it is not a closed subset of $mathbb R$ and therefore it is not compact.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday












Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday




Right, 2 and 3 are correct.
– John Douma
yesterday




1




1




The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday




The set $A$ is open on $mathbb Q$.
– José Carlos Santos
yesterday




1




1




s/also/doesn't/ (typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
– egreg
yesterday






s/also/doesn't/ (typo). Be careful: $A$ is closed in $mathbb{Q}$: can you point to a rational which is an accumulation point and doesn't belong to $A$?
– egreg
yesterday




















 

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