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I am trying to get some intuition on Harris recurrence in Markov chains. Define state space $mathcal S$ comprising a single communication class, $f_{ii}^{(n)}=P(X_n=i, X_{n-1}ne i,ldots X_1ne imid X_0=i)$, $f_{ii}=sum_n f_{ii}^{(n)}$, $T_{ii}=inf_n {X_n=imid X_0=i}$ and $E(T_{ii})=sum_n nf_{ii}^{(n)}$ and $V_i=sum_nmathbb 1_{X_n=i}$, we have the following.





  • Transience: $f_{ii}<1$


  • Null recurrence:$f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})=infty$


  • Positive recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})<infty$, $E(V_i)=infty forall iin mathcal S$


  • Harris recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $P(omega:V_i(omega)=infty)=1 forall iin mathcal S$


Are the above relations correct? I do not see how the last bullet relates to the definition in Wikipedia. Are there any examples of finite Markov chains that are positive but not Harris recurrent?










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  • First question: what is the state space of your Markov Chain? I am assuming countable, because you are using summation over i. why don't you check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_chain? Also what you have written as defintion of harris recurrence seem to be the same as null recurrence to me. Correct me if I am wrong. If $f_{ii}=infty$, this implies that $P(T_{ii}<infty)=1$, right?
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  • @Lost1: made some changes... The wiki article was not helpful to my intuition and it has already been referred to in the question.
    – Bravo
    Mar 26 '13 at 13:37















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I am trying to get some intuition on Harris recurrence in Markov chains. Define state space $mathcal S$ comprising a single communication class, $f_{ii}^{(n)}=P(X_n=i, X_{n-1}ne i,ldots X_1ne imid X_0=i)$, $f_{ii}=sum_n f_{ii}^{(n)}$, $T_{ii}=inf_n {X_n=imid X_0=i}$ and $E(T_{ii})=sum_n nf_{ii}^{(n)}$ and $V_i=sum_nmathbb 1_{X_n=i}$, we have the following.





  • Transience: $f_{ii}<1$


  • Null recurrence:$f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})=infty$


  • Positive recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})<infty$, $E(V_i)=infty forall iin mathcal S$


  • Harris recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $P(omega:V_i(omega)=infty)=1 forall iin mathcal S$


Are the above relations correct? I do not see how the last bullet relates to the definition in Wikipedia. Are there any examples of finite Markov chains that are positive but not Harris recurrent?










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  • First question: what is the state space of your Markov Chain? I am assuming countable, because you are using summation over i. why don't you check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_chain? Also what you have written as defintion of harris recurrence seem to be the same as null recurrence to me. Correct me if I am wrong. If $f_{ii}=infty$, this implies that $P(T_{ii}<infty)=1$, right?
    – Lost1
    Mar 26 '13 at 13:24












  • @Lost1: made some changes... The wiki article was not helpful to my intuition and it has already been referred to in the question.
    – Bravo
    Mar 26 '13 at 13:37













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I am trying to get some intuition on Harris recurrence in Markov chains. Define state space $mathcal S$ comprising a single communication class, $f_{ii}^{(n)}=P(X_n=i, X_{n-1}ne i,ldots X_1ne imid X_0=i)$, $f_{ii}=sum_n f_{ii}^{(n)}$, $T_{ii}=inf_n {X_n=imid X_0=i}$ and $E(T_{ii})=sum_n nf_{ii}^{(n)}$ and $V_i=sum_nmathbb 1_{X_n=i}$, we have the following.





  • Transience: $f_{ii}<1$


  • Null recurrence:$f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})=infty$


  • Positive recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})<infty$, $E(V_i)=infty forall iin mathcal S$


  • Harris recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $P(omega:V_i(omega)=infty)=1 forall iin mathcal S$


Are the above relations correct? I do not see how the last bullet relates to the definition in Wikipedia. Are there any examples of finite Markov chains that are positive but not Harris recurrent?










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I am trying to get some intuition on Harris recurrence in Markov chains. Define state space $mathcal S$ comprising a single communication class, $f_{ii}^{(n)}=P(X_n=i, X_{n-1}ne i,ldots X_1ne imid X_0=i)$, $f_{ii}=sum_n f_{ii}^{(n)}$, $T_{ii}=inf_n {X_n=imid X_0=i}$ and $E(T_{ii})=sum_n nf_{ii}^{(n)}$ and $V_i=sum_nmathbb 1_{X_n=i}$, we have the following.





  • Transience: $f_{ii}<1$


  • Null recurrence:$f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})=infty$


  • Positive recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $E(T_{ii})<infty$, $E(V_i)=infty forall iin mathcal S$


  • Harris recurrence: $f_{ii}=1$, $P(omega:V_i(omega)=infty)=1 forall iin mathcal S$


Are the above relations correct? I do not see how the last bullet relates to the definition in Wikipedia. Are there any examples of finite Markov chains that are positive but not Harris recurrent?







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  • First question: what is the state space of your Markov Chain? I am assuming countable, because you are using summation over i. why don't you check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_chain? Also what you have written as defintion of harris recurrence seem to be the same as null recurrence to me. Correct me if I am wrong. If $f_{ii}=infty$, this implies that $P(T_{ii}<infty)=1$, right?
    – Lost1
    Mar 26 '13 at 13:24












  • @Lost1: made some changes... The wiki article was not helpful to my intuition and it has already been referred to in the question.
    – Bravo
    Mar 26 '13 at 13:37


















  • First question: what is the state space of your Markov Chain? I am assuming countable, because you are using summation over i. why don't you check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_chain? Also what you have written as defintion of harris recurrence seem to be the same as null recurrence to me. Correct me if I am wrong. If $f_{ii}=infty$, this implies that $P(T_{ii}<infty)=1$, right?
    – Lost1
    Mar 26 '13 at 13:24












  • @Lost1: made some changes... The wiki article was not helpful to my intuition and it has already been referred to in the question.
    – Bravo
    Mar 26 '13 at 13:37
















First question: what is the state space of your Markov Chain? I am assuming countable, because you are using summation over i. why don't you check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_chain? Also what you have written as defintion of harris recurrence seem to be the same as null recurrence to me. Correct me if I am wrong. If $f_{ii}=infty$, this implies that $P(T_{ii}<infty)=1$, right?
– Lost1
Mar 26 '13 at 13:24






First question: what is the state space of your Markov Chain? I am assuming countable, because you are using summation over i. why don't you check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_chain? Also what you have written as defintion of harris recurrence seem to be the same as null recurrence to me. Correct me if I am wrong. If $f_{ii}=infty$, this implies that $P(T_{ii}<infty)=1$, right?
– Lost1
Mar 26 '13 at 13:24














@Lost1: made some changes... The wiki article was not helpful to my intuition and it has already been referred to in the question.
– Bravo
Mar 26 '13 at 13:37




@Lost1: made some changes... The wiki article was not helpful to my intuition and it has already been referred to in the question.
– Bravo
Mar 26 '13 at 13:37










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This answer may be wrong, but I think it is worth posting and if it is wrong, someone can point it out and I can learn something too.



I think you do not mean a finite Markov Chain, because for a finite state chain, assuming it is irreducible, every state will be visited infinitely often, there is no question.



I think there is only a difference if the state space is uncountable.



This is because the event $V_i=infty$ is the same as the event "state i is visited infinitely often". This has probability 1 or 0, by Levy's zero-one law.



So, suppose a positive definite chain is not Harris recurrent. This means the expected number of visits to $i$ is infinite, but the number visits to $i$ is finite, almost surely, but doesn't this mean it is transient?






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    This answer may be wrong, but I think it is worth posting and if it is wrong, someone can point it out and I can learn something too.



    I think you do not mean a finite Markov Chain, because for a finite state chain, assuming it is irreducible, every state will be visited infinitely often, there is no question.



    I think there is only a difference if the state space is uncountable.



    This is because the event $V_i=infty$ is the same as the event "state i is visited infinitely often". This has probability 1 or 0, by Levy's zero-one law.



    So, suppose a positive definite chain is not Harris recurrent. This means the expected number of visits to $i$ is infinite, but the number visits to $i$ is finite, almost surely, but doesn't this mean it is transient?






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      This answer may be wrong, but I think it is worth posting and if it is wrong, someone can point it out and I can learn something too.



      I think you do not mean a finite Markov Chain, because for a finite state chain, assuming it is irreducible, every state will be visited infinitely often, there is no question.



      I think there is only a difference if the state space is uncountable.



      This is because the event $V_i=infty$ is the same as the event "state i is visited infinitely often". This has probability 1 or 0, by Levy's zero-one law.



      So, suppose a positive definite chain is not Harris recurrent. This means the expected number of visits to $i$ is infinite, but the number visits to $i$ is finite, almost surely, but doesn't this mean it is transient?






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        I think you do not mean a finite Markov Chain, because for a finite state chain, assuming it is irreducible, every state will be visited infinitely often, there is no question.



        I think there is only a difference if the state space is uncountable.



        This is because the event $V_i=infty$ is the same as the event "state i is visited infinitely often". This has probability 1 or 0, by Levy's zero-one law.



        So, suppose a positive definite chain is not Harris recurrent. This means the expected number of visits to $i$ is infinite, but the number visits to $i$ is finite, almost surely, but doesn't this mean it is transient?






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        This answer may be wrong, but I think it is worth posting and if it is wrong, someone can point it out and I can learn something too.



        I think you do not mean a finite Markov Chain, because for a finite state chain, assuming it is irreducible, every state will be visited infinitely often, there is no question.



        I think there is only a difference if the state space is uncountable.



        This is because the event $V_i=infty$ is the same as the event "state i is visited infinitely often". This has probability 1 or 0, by Levy's zero-one law.



        So, suppose a positive definite chain is not Harris recurrent. This means the expected number of visits to $i$ is infinite, but the number visits to $i$ is finite, almost surely, but doesn't this mean it is transient?







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