Let $A = { x = { x_k } in l^2 vert x_2 = 2x_1 }$, show that It is a closed subspace of $l^2$











up vote
0
down vote

favorite












Let $A = { x = { x_k } in l^2 vert x_2 = 2x_1 }$, I want to show that it is a closed subspace of $l^2$.



Now this is what I have done, but I am not sure if it is right.



Checking that is is a subspace is easy: I just pick $alpha,beta in mathbb{R}$ and $x,y in A$ and check that $alpha x + beta y in A$.



Now comes the hard part. I know that if $X subset Y$ is a subspace of Y complete, then being closed is equivalent to being complete.



I then verify it is complete and finish:



Let $x_n = {x_{n,k}}_{n=1}^infty$ be a Caychy sequence of A.
Then $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N_epsilon$ such that $forall n, m > N_epsilon$



$$ vert x_{n,k} - x_{m,k} vert leq Vert x_n - x_m Vert_2 < epsilon $$



This tells me that: $exists lim_{nto infty} x_{n,j} = x_j$ which is my candiate limit. (I know it exists because I have a Cauchy sequence in $ mathbb{R}$ which is a complete space.



I know prove that it is indeed the limit by calculating:
$Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2$.



$$ Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2 = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - x_j vert^2 = $$
$$ = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - lim_{kto infty}x_{k,j} vert^2 = $$
$$ = lim_{kto infty} sum_{j=1}^{M} vert x_{n,j} - x_{k,j} vert^2 leq epsilon^2$$



I picked M finite so that I could bring out the limit, then I let it go to infinity to find that $Vert x_n - x Vert_2 < epsilon$



I have some doubts because I did not use the specific definition of A to find such limit. Is there a problem in my proof?










share|cite|improve this question






















  • Consider the linear functional $f$ from the space to the field, mapping $x$ to $x_2-2x_1$. It is continuous, and thus the preimage of the closed set ${0}$ is also closed.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:00










  • @dan_fulea how do you know it is continuous
    – mathworker21
    Nov 27 at 18:01












  • ... boundedness, $|f(x)-f(y)|=|(x_2-y_2)-2(x_1-y_1)|le|x_2-y_2|+2|x_1-y_1|le |x-y|+2|x-y|=3|x-y|$.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:04










  • @dan_fulea I do not see how this changes my proof, could you elaborate a bit?
    – qcc101
    Nov 27 at 18:23










  • $f(x)=x_2-2x_1$ is a continuous linear functional. So the inverse image of the closed set ${ 0 }$ is a closed subset of $ell^2$.
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Nov 28 at 18:32















up vote
0
down vote

favorite












Let $A = { x = { x_k } in l^2 vert x_2 = 2x_1 }$, I want to show that it is a closed subspace of $l^2$.



Now this is what I have done, but I am not sure if it is right.



Checking that is is a subspace is easy: I just pick $alpha,beta in mathbb{R}$ and $x,y in A$ and check that $alpha x + beta y in A$.



Now comes the hard part. I know that if $X subset Y$ is a subspace of Y complete, then being closed is equivalent to being complete.



I then verify it is complete and finish:



Let $x_n = {x_{n,k}}_{n=1}^infty$ be a Caychy sequence of A.
Then $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N_epsilon$ such that $forall n, m > N_epsilon$



$$ vert x_{n,k} - x_{m,k} vert leq Vert x_n - x_m Vert_2 < epsilon $$



This tells me that: $exists lim_{nto infty} x_{n,j} = x_j$ which is my candiate limit. (I know it exists because I have a Cauchy sequence in $ mathbb{R}$ which is a complete space.



I know prove that it is indeed the limit by calculating:
$Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2$.



$$ Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2 = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - x_j vert^2 = $$
$$ = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - lim_{kto infty}x_{k,j} vert^2 = $$
$$ = lim_{kto infty} sum_{j=1}^{M} vert x_{n,j} - x_{k,j} vert^2 leq epsilon^2$$



I picked M finite so that I could bring out the limit, then I let it go to infinity to find that $Vert x_n - x Vert_2 < epsilon$



I have some doubts because I did not use the specific definition of A to find such limit. Is there a problem in my proof?










share|cite|improve this question






















  • Consider the linear functional $f$ from the space to the field, mapping $x$ to $x_2-2x_1$. It is continuous, and thus the preimage of the closed set ${0}$ is also closed.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:00










  • @dan_fulea how do you know it is continuous
    – mathworker21
    Nov 27 at 18:01












  • ... boundedness, $|f(x)-f(y)|=|(x_2-y_2)-2(x_1-y_1)|le|x_2-y_2|+2|x_1-y_1|le |x-y|+2|x-y|=3|x-y|$.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:04










  • @dan_fulea I do not see how this changes my proof, could you elaborate a bit?
    – qcc101
    Nov 27 at 18:23










  • $f(x)=x_2-2x_1$ is a continuous linear functional. So the inverse image of the closed set ${ 0 }$ is a closed subset of $ell^2$.
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Nov 28 at 18:32













up vote
0
down vote

favorite









up vote
0
down vote

favorite











Let $A = { x = { x_k } in l^2 vert x_2 = 2x_1 }$, I want to show that it is a closed subspace of $l^2$.



Now this is what I have done, but I am not sure if it is right.



Checking that is is a subspace is easy: I just pick $alpha,beta in mathbb{R}$ and $x,y in A$ and check that $alpha x + beta y in A$.



Now comes the hard part. I know that if $X subset Y$ is a subspace of Y complete, then being closed is equivalent to being complete.



I then verify it is complete and finish:



Let $x_n = {x_{n,k}}_{n=1}^infty$ be a Caychy sequence of A.
Then $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N_epsilon$ such that $forall n, m > N_epsilon$



$$ vert x_{n,k} - x_{m,k} vert leq Vert x_n - x_m Vert_2 < epsilon $$



This tells me that: $exists lim_{nto infty} x_{n,j} = x_j$ which is my candiate limit. (I know it exists because I have a Cauchy sequence in $ mathbb{R}$ which is a complete space.



I know prove that it is indeed the limit by calculating:
$Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2$.



$$ Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2 = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - x_j vert^2 = $$
$$ = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - lim_{kto infty}x_{k,j} vert^2 = $$
$$ = lim_{kto infty} sum_{j=1}^{M} vert x_{n,j} - x_{k,j} vert^2 leq epsilon^2$$



I picked M finite so that I could bring out the limit, then I let it go to infinity to find that $Vert x_n - x Vert_2 < epsilon$



I have some doubts because I did not use the specific definition of A to find such limit. Is there a problem in my proof?










share|cite|improve this question













Let $A = { x = { x_k } in l^2 vert x_2 = 2x_1 }$, I want to show that it is a closed subspace of $l^2$.



Now this is what I have done, but I am not sure if it is right.



Checking that is is a subspace is easy: I just pick $alpha,beta in mathbb{R}$ and $x,y in A$ and check that $alpha x + beta y in A$.



Now comes the hard part. I know that if $X subset Y$ is a subspace of Y complete, then being closed is equivalent to being complete.



I then verify it is complete and finish:



Let $x_n = {x_{n,k}}_{n=1}^infty$ be a Caychy sequence of A.
Then $forall epsilon > 0$, $exists N_epsilon$ such that $forall n, m > N_epsilon$



$$ vert x_{n,k} - x_{m,k} vert leq Vert x_n - x_m Vert_2 < epsilon $$



This tells me that: $exists lim_{nto infty} x_{n,j} = x_j$ which is my candiate limit. (I know it exists because I have a Cauchy sequence in $ mathbb{R}$ which is a complete space.



I know prove that it is indeed the limit by calculating:
$Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2$.



$$ Vert x_n - x Vert_2^2 = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - x_j vert^2 = $$
$$ = sum_{j=1}^{infty} vert x_{n,j} - lim_{kto infty}x_{k,j} vert^2 = $$
$$ = lim_{kto infty} sum_{j=1}^{M} vert x_{n,j} - x_{k,j} vert^2 leq epsilon^2$$



I picked M finite so that I could bring out the limit, then I let it go to infinity to find that $Vert x_n - x Vert_2 < epsilon$



I have some doubts because I did not use the specific definition of A to find such limit. Is there a problem in my proof?







functional-analysis






share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question











share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question










asked Nov 27 at 17:57









qcc101

458113




458113












  • Consider the linear functional $f$ from the space to the field, mapping $x$ to $x_2-2x_1$. It is continuous, and thus the preimage of the closed set ${0}$ is also closed.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:00










  • @dan_fulea how do you know it is continuous
    – mathworker21
    Nov 27 at 18:01












  • ... boundedness, $|f(x)-f(y)|=|(x_2-y_2)-2(x_1-y_1)|le|x_2-y_2|+2|x_1-y_1|le |x-y|+2|x-y|=3|x-y|$.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:04










  • @dan_fulea I do not see how this changes my proof, could you elaborate a bit?
    – qcc101
    Nov 27 at 18:23










  • $f(x)=x_2-2x_1$ is a continuous linear functional. So the inverse image of the closed set ${ 0 }$ is a closed subset of $ell^2$.
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Nov 28 at 18:32


















  • Consider the linear functional $f$ from the space to the field, mapping $x$ to $x_2-2x_1$. It is continuous, and thus the preimage of the closed set ${0}$ is also closed.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:00










  • @dan_fulea how do you know it is continuous
    – mathworker21
    Nov 27 at 18:01












  • ... boundedness, $|f(x)-f(y)|=|(x_2-y_2)-2(x_1-y_1)|le|x_2-y_2|+2|x_1-y_1|le |x-y|+2|x-y|=3|x-y|$.
    – dan_fulea
    Nov 27 at 18:04










  • @dan_fulea I do not see how this changes my proof, could you elaborate a bit?
    – qcc101
    Nov 27 at 18:23










  • $f(x)=x_2-2x_1$ is a continuous linear functional. So the inverse image of the closed set ${ 0 }$ is a closed subset of $ell^2$.
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Nov 28 at 18:32
















Consider the linear functional $f$ from the space to the field, mapping $x$ to $x_2-2x_1$. It is continuous, and thus the preimage of the closed set ${0}$ is also closed.
– dan_fulea
Nov 27 at 18:00




Consider the linear functional $f$ from the space to the field, mapping $x$ to $x_2-2x_1$. It is continuous, and thus the preimage of the closed set ${0}$ is also closed.
– dan_fulea
Nov 27 at 18:00












@dan_fulea how do you know it is continuous
– mathworker21
Nov 27 at 18:01






@dan_fulea how do you know it is continuous
– mathworker21
Nov 27 at 18:01














... boundedness, $|f(x)-f(y)|=|(x_2-y_2)-2(x_1-y_1)|le|x_2-y_2|+2|x_1-y_1|le |x-y|+2|x-y|=3|x-y|$.
– dan_fulea
Nov 27 at 18:04




... boundedness, $|f(x)-f(y)|=|(x_2-y_2)-2(x_1-y_1)|le|x_2-y_2|+2|x_1-y_1|le |x-y|+2|x-y|=3|x-y|$.
– dan_fulea
Nov 27 at 18:04












@dan_fulea I do not see how this changes my proof, could you elaborate a bit?
– qcc101
Nov 27 at 18:23




@dan_fulea I do not see how this changes my proof, could you elaborate a bit?
– qcc101
Nov 27 at 18:23












$f(x)=x_2-2x_1$ is a continuous linear functional. So the inverse image of the closed set ${ 0 }$ is a closed subset of $ell^2$.
– DisintegratingByParts
Nov 28 at 18:32




$f(x)=x_2-2x_1$ is a continuous linear functional. So the inverse image of the closed set ${ 0 }$ is a closed subset of $ell^2$.
– DisintegratingByParts
Nov 28 at 18:32















active

oldest

votes











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3016093%2flet-a-x-x-k-in-l2-vert-x-2-2x-1-show-that-it-is-a-closed%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown






























active

oldest

votes













active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes
















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3016093%2flet-a-x-x-k-in-l2-vert-x-2-2x-1-show-that-it-is-a-closed%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Berounka

Different font size/position of beamer's navigation symbols template's content depending on regular/plain...

Sphinx de Gizeh