Are solutions to the differential equation $y' = 1 + x^2y^2$ growing?
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The task is to determine whether the statement is true or false.
Statement:
All solutions to the differential equation $y' = 1 + x^2y^2$ are growing.
My answer:
I think that all solution to the differential equation is growing due to that the derivative is $x^2$ and $y^2$ which always gives a positive number, which leads to a positive derivative --> growing function.
Am I thinking right or not?
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The task is to determine whether the statement is true or false.
Statement:
All solutions to the differential equation $y' = 1 + x^2y^2$ are growing.
My answer:
I think that all solution to the differential equation is growing due to that the derivative is $x^2$ and $y^2$ which always gives a positive number, which leads to a positive derivative --> growing function.
Am I thinking right or not?
ordinary-differential-equations
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– José Carlos Santos
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Thank you so much for tips!
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Your thinking is right.
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The task is to determine whether the statement is true or false.
Statement:
All solutions to the differential equation $y' = 1 + x^2y^2$ are growing.
My answer:
I think that all solution to the differential equation is growing due to that the derivative is $x^2$ and $y^2$ which always gives a positive number, which leads to a positive derivative --> growing function.
Am I thinking right or not?
ordinary-differential-equations
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The task is to determine whether the statement is true or false.
Statement:
All solutions to the differential equation $y' = 1 + x^2y^2$ are growing.
My answer:
I think that all solution to the differential equation is growing due to that the derivative is $x^2$ and $y^2$ which always gives a positive number, which leads to a positive derivative --> growing function.
Am I thinking right or not?
ordinary-differential-equations
ordinary-differential-equations
edited Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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– José Carlos Santos
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Thank you so much for tips!
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Your thinking is right.
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 7 '18 at 9:47
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Welcome to MSE. For some basic information about writing mathematics at this site see, e.g., basic help on mathjax notation, mathjax tutorial and quick reference, main meta site math tutorial and equation editing how-to.
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– José Carlos Santos
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Thank you so much for tips!
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
1
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Your thinking is right.
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 7 '18 at 9:47
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Welcome to MSE. For some basic information about writing mathematics at this site see, e.g., basic help on mathjax notation, mathjax tutorial and quick reference, main meta site math tutorial and equation editing how-to.
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– José Carlos Santos
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Welcome to MSE. For some basic information about writing mathematics at this site see, e.g., basic help on mathjax notation, mathjax tutorial and quick reference, main meta site math tutorial and equation editing how-to.
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– José Carlos Santos
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Thank you so much for tips!
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Thank you so much for tips!
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:46
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Your thinking is right.
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– Kemono Chen
Dec 7 '18 at 9:47
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Your thinking is right.
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Seems perfectly fine to me. I just want to restate this slightly more formally for clarity's sake.
Since $x^2,y^2 geq 0$ for all $x,y$, then
$$y' = 1 +x^2y^2 geq 1 + 0 = 1 > 0$$
ergo, the solutions should be growing, as $y' > 0$ always.
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:49
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Moreover, for $xge1$ you get
$$
y'ge1+y^2implies y(x)getan(x+c)text{ where }y(1)=tan(1+c),
$$
so that not only you get growth, but explosive growth to a blow-up (pole) in finite time.
Other inequalities: Still for $xge1$ one gets a separable right side in
$$
y'le x^2(1+y^2)implies y(x)letan(x^3/3+c) text{ where }y(1)=tan(1/3+c)
$$
For $y(a)$ large, the second term will dominate the constant $1$, so that the pole structure is
$$
y'stackrel{ge}{sim} x^2y^2implies y(x)stackrel{ge}{sim}frac{y(a)}{1-y(a)(x^3-a^3)/3}
$$
so that given $(a,y(a))$ close to the pole an improved estimate for the pole position is $sqrt[3,]{3/y(a)+a^3}$.
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Seems perfectly fine to me. I just want to restate this slightly more formally for clarity's sake.
Since $x^2,y^2 geq 0$ for all $x,y$, then
$$y' = 1 +x^2y^2 geq 1 + 0 = 1 > 0$$
ergo, the solutions should be growing, as $y' > 0$ always.
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Thank you so much!!!
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:49
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Seems perfectly fine to me. I just want to restate this slightly more formally for clarity's sake.
Since $x^2,y^2 geq 0$ for all $x,y$, then
$$y' = 1 +x^2y^2 geq 1 + 0 = 1 > 0$$
ergo, the solutions should be growing, as $y' > 0$ always.
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Thank you so much!!!
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– nick fletcher
Dec 7 '18 at 9:49
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Seems perfectly fine to me. I just want to restate this slightly more formally for clarity's sake.
Since $x^2,y^2 geq 0$ for all $x,y$, then
$$y' = 1 +x^2y^2 geq 1 + 0 = 1 > 0$$
ergo, the solutions should be growing, as $y' > 0$ always.
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Seems perfectly fine to me. I just want to restate this slightly more formally for clarity's sake.
Since $x^2,y^2 geq 0$ for all $x,y$, then
$$y' = 1 +x^2y^2 geq 1 + 0 = 1 > 0$$
ergo, the solutions should be growing, as $y' > 0$ always.
answered Dec 7 '18 at 9:48
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Thank you so much!!!
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Moreover, for $xge1$ you get
$$
y'ge1+y^2implies y(x)getan(x+c)text{ where }y(1)=tan(1+c),
$$
so that not only you get growth, but explosive growth to a blow-up (pole) in finite time.
Other inequalities: Still for $xge1$ one gets a separable right side in
$$
y'le x^2(1+y^2)implies y(x)letan(x^3/3+c) text{ where }y(1)=tan(1/3+c)
$$
For $y(a)$ large, the second term will dominate the constant $1$, so that the pole structure is
$$
y'stackrel{ge}{sim} x^2y^2implies y(x)stackrel{ge}{sim}frac{y(a)}{1-y(a)(x^3-a^3)/3}
$$
so that given $(a,y(a))$ close to the pole an improved estimate for the pole position is $sqrt[3,]{3/y(a)+a^3}$.
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Moreover, for $xge1$ you get
$$
y'ge1+y^2implies y(x)getan(x+c)text{ where }y(1)=tan(1+c),
$$
so that not only you get growth, but explosive growth to a blow-up (pole) in finite time.
Other inequalities: Still for $xge1$ one gets a separable right side in
$$
y'le x^2(1+y^2)implies y(x)letan(x^3/3+c) text{ where }y(1)=tan(1/3+c)
$$
For $y(a)$ large, the second term will dominate the constant $1$, so that the pole structure is
$$
y'stackrel{ge}{sim} x^2y^2implies y(x)stackrel{ge}{sim}frac{y(a)}{1-y(a)(x^3-a^3)/3}
$$
so that given $(a,y(a))$ close to the pole an improved estimate for the pole position is $sqrt[3,]{3/y(a)+a^3}$.
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Moreover, for $xge1$ you get
$$
y'ge1+y^2implies y(x)getan(x+c)text{ where }y(1)=tan(1+c),
$$
so that not only you get growth, but explosive growth to a blow-up (pole) in finite time.
Other inequalities: Still for $xge1$ one gets a separable right side in
$$
y'le x^2(1+y^2)implies y(x)letan(x^3/3+c) text{ where }y(1)=tan(1/3+c)
$$
For $y(a)$ large, the second term will dominate the constant $1$, so that the pole structure is
$$
y'stackrel{ge}{sim} x^2y^2implies y(x)stackrel{ge}{sim}frac{y(a)}{1-y(a)(x^3-a^3)/3}
$$
so that given $(a,y(a))$ close to the pole an improved estimate for the pole position is $sqrt[3,]{3/y(a)+a^3}$.
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Moreover, for $xge1$ you get
$$
y'ge1+y^2implies y(x)getan(x+c)text{ where }y(1)=tan(1+c),
$$
so that not only you get growth, but explosive growth to a blow-up (pole) in finite time.
Other inequalities: Still for $xge1$ one gets a separable right side in
$$
y'le x^2(1+y^2)implies y(x)letan(x^3/3+c) text{ where }y(1)=tan(1/3+c)
$$
For $y(a)$ large, the second term will dominate the constant $1$, so that the pole structure is
$$
y'stackrel{ge}{sim} x^2y^2implies y(x)stackrel{ge}{sim}frac{y(a)}{1-y(a)(x^3-a^3)/3}
$$
so that given $(a,y(a))$ close to the pole an improved estimate for the pole position is $sqrt[3,]{3/y(a)+a^3}$.
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– José Carlos Santos
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Thank you so much for tips!
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– nick fletcher
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Your thinking is right.
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– Kemono Chen
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