Does their exist an analytic function $f(z)$ such that $f(n + frac{1}{n}) = 0$ for all $n in mathbb{N}$?
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My approach:
Let $a_n = n + frac{1}{n}$. Define $f(z) = (z-a_1)cdots(z-a_n)cdots=prod_{ninmathbb{N}}(z-a_n)$. I think that $f(z)$ satisfies the above property. But I have some reservation in defining the infinite product. So is my approach correct and can someone write down the rigorous answer to it.
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My approach:
Let $a_n = n + frac{1}{n}$. Define $f(z) = (z-a_1)cdots(z-a_n)cdots=prod_{ninmathbb{N}}(z-a_n)$. I think that $f(z)$ satisfies the above property. But I have some reservation in defining the infinite product. So is my approach correct and can someone write down the rigorous answer to it.
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I guess you mean besides the function $f = 0$.
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– jjagmath
Dec 5 '18 at 23:42
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@jjagmath Yes $f neq 0$
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My approach:
Let $a_n = n + frac{1}{n}$. Define $f(z) = (z-a_1)cdots(z-a_n)cdots=prod_{ninmathbb{N}}(z-a_n)$. I think that $f(z)$ satisfies the above property. But I have some reservation in defining the infinite product. So is my approach correct and can someone write down the rigorous answer to it.
complex-analysis
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My approach:
Let $a_n = n + frac{1}{n}$. Define $f(z) = (z-a_1)cdots(z-a_n)cdots=prod_{ninmathbb{N}}(z-a_n)$. I think that $f(z)$ satisfies the above property. But I have some reservation in defining the infinite product. So is my approach correct and can someone write down the rigorous answer to it.
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edited Dec 6 '18 at 0:04
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I guess you mean besides the function $f = 0$.
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– jjagmath
Dec 5 '18 at 23:42
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@jjagmath Yes $f neq 0$
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– henceproved
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I guess you mean besides the function $f = 0$.
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– jjagmath
Dec 5 '18 at 23:42
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@jjagmath Yes $f neq 0$
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– henceproved
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I guess you mean besides the function $f = 0$.
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– jjagmath
Dec 5 '18 at 23:42
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I guess you mean besides the function $f = 0$.
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– jjagmath
Dec 5 '18 at 23:42
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@jjagmath Yes $f neq 0$
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:46
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@jjagmath Yes $f neq 0$
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This should follow immediately from the Weierstrass Factorization Theorem. There are some technical details you should attend to, but your idea is almost basically correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_factorization_theorem
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Thanks for the link, i was not aware of that theorem. Anyways in the theorem it mentions that $mid z - a_n mid to 0 $ as $n to infty$. Somehow I am not seeing that happening!
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:48
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@henceproved Where did you see $|z-a_n|rightarrow 0$? The first form of the theorem only requires that $a_nrightarrow infty$.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:50
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sorry typo it should be $mid z - a_n mid to 1$ and I saw this condition in the motivation section.
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:52
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@henceproved Ah, that condition is certainly required, and your proposed product certainly does not satisfy it. That is why I said you had some technical details to attend to. Notice that in the theorem the elementary factors are rather strange looking.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:53
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If $$sum frac{1}{a^2_n}$$ is absolutely convergent (which it is in this case), then $$f(z) = prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z}{a_n}right) e^{z/a_n}$$ is a holomorphic function with zeroes exactly at $a_n$. If you don't mind extra zeroes, then you could consider $F(z) = f(z)f(-z)$, which has zeroes at $a_n$ and $-a_n$ but the slightly nicer form: $$ prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z^2}{a^2_n} right).$$
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The function you have is actually nowhere analytic and not even well defined.
Suppose that $f:mathbb{C}rightarrow mathbb{C}$ where $f(x) = lim_{nrightarrowinfty}prod_{i=1}^{n}(x-a_n)$ is well defined, i.e $f(x)in mathbb{C}$ for each $xin mathbb{C}$.
Pick any $xinmathbb{C},nin mathbb{N}$.
begin{align}
|a_n-a_m|&=|n+frac{1}{n}-m-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - |frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - 2
end{align}
So that $|a_n - a_m|rightarrowinfty$ as $mrightarrow infty$. We also have that begin{align}
|x-a_m|&= |(x-a_n)-(a_n-a_m)|\
&geq |a_n -a_m| - |x-a_n|
end{align}
Now, as $|a_n-a_m|rightarrowinfty$, choose $M = 2+|x-a_n|$ so that there exists $Nin mathbb{N}$ such that $m> N$ implies $|a_n-a_m| geq M$ which implies $|x-a_m| geq 2$.
Note $|x-a_i|$ is nonzero for all $1leq ileq N$. Thus $prod_{1leq ileq N}{|x-a_i|}$ is equal to some $varepsilon>0$. Now there exists $kinmathbb{N}$ such that $frac{1}{2^k} leq varepsilon$. Now $prod_{i=1}^{N+m+k}|x-a_i| geq varepsilon2^{m+k}geq2^{m}$. Thus $f(x)$ must be unbounded so that $f(x)notin mathbb{C}$. Hence $f$ is not well defined.
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This addresses "is my approach correct" but not "can someone write down the rigorous answer to it".
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This should follow immediately from the Weierstrass Factorization Theorem. There are some technical details you should attend to, but your idea is almost basically correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_factorization_theorem
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Thanks for the link, i was not aware of that theorem. Anyways in the theorem it mentions that $mid z - a_n mid to 0 $ as $n to infty$. Somehow I am not seeing that happening!
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:48
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@henceproved Where did you see $|z-a_n|rightarrow 0$? The first form of the theorem only requires that $a_nrightarrow infty$.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:50
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sorry typo it should be $mid z - a_n mid to 1$ and I saw this condition in the motivation section.
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:52
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@henceproved Ah, that condition is certainly required, and your proposed product certainly does not satisfy it. That is why I said you had some technical details to attend to. Notice that in the theorem the elementary factors are rather strange looking.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:53
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If $$sum frac{1}{a^2_n}$$ is absolutely convergent (which it is in this case), then $$f(z) = prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z}{a_n}right) e^{z/a_n}$$ is a holomorphic function with zeroes exactly at $a_n$. If you don't mind extra zeroes, then you could consider $F(z) = f(z)f(-z)$, which has zeroes at $a_n$ and $-a_n$ but the slightly nicer form: $$ prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z^2}{a^2_n} right).$$
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– Lorem Ipsum
Dec 6 '18 at 1:39
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This should follow immediately from the Weierstrass Factorization Theorem. There are some technical details you should attend to, but your idea is almost basically correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_factorization_theorem
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Thanks for the link, i was not aware of that theorem. Anyways in the theorem it mentions that $mid z - a_n mid to 0 $ as $n to infty$. Somehow I am not seeing that happening!
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:48
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@henceproved Where did you see $|z-a_n|rightarrow 0$? The first form of the theorem only requires that $a_nrightarrow infty$.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:50
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sorry typo it should be $mid z - a_n mid to 1$ and I saw this condition in the motivation section.
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:52
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@henceproved Ah, that condition is certainly required, and your proposed product certainly does not satisfy it. That is why I said you had some technical details to attend to. Notice that in the theorem the elementary factors are rather strange looking.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:53
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If $$sum frac{1}{a^2_n}$$ is absolutely convergent (which it is in this case), then $$f(z) = prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z}{a_n}right) e^{z/a_n}$$ is a holomorphic function with zeroes exactly at $a_n$. If you don't mind extra zeroes, then you could consider $F(z) = f(z)f(-z)$, which has zeroes at $a_n$ and $-a_n$ but the slightly nicer form: $$ prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z^2}{a^2_n} right).$$
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– Lorem Ipsum
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This should follow immediately from the Weierstrass Factorization Theorem. There are some technical details you should attend to, but your idea is almost basically correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_factorization_theorem
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This should follow immediately from the Weierstrass Factorization Theorem. There are some technical details you should attend to, but your idea is almost basically correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_factorization_theorem
answered Dec 5 '18 at 23:39
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Thanks for the link, i was not aware of that theorem. Anyways in the theorem it mentions that $mid z - a_n mid to 0 $ as $n to infty$. Somehow I am not seeing that happening!
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:48
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@henceproved Where did you see $|z-a_n|rightarrow 0$? The first form of the theorem only requires that $a_nrightarrow infty$.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:50
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sorry typo it should be $mid z - a_n mid to 1$ and I saw this condition in the motivation section.
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:52
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@henceproved Ah, that condition is certainly required, and your proposed product certainly does not satisfy it. That is why I said you had some technical details to attend to. Notice that in the theorem the elementary factors are rather strange looking.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:53
2
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If $$sum frac{1}{a^2_n}$$ is absolutely convergent (which it is in this case), then $$f(z) = prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z}{a_n}right) e^{z/a_n}$$ is a holomorphic function with zeroes exactly at $a_n$. If you don't mind extra zeroes, then you could consider $F(z) = f(z)f(-z)$, which has zeroes at $a_n$ and $-a_n$ but the slightly nicer form: $$ prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z^2}{a^2_n} right).$$
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– Lorem Ipsum
Dec 6 '18 at 1:39
add a comment |
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Thanks for the link, i was not aware of that theorem. Anyways in the theorem it mentions that $mid z - a_n mid to 0 $ as $n to infty$. Somehow I am not seeing that happening!
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:48
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@henceproved Where did you see $|z-a_n|rightarrow 0$? The first form of the theorem only requires that $a_nrightarrow infty$.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:50
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sorry typo it should be $mid z - a_n mid to 1$ and I saw this condition in the motivation section.
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:52
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@henceproved Ah, that condition is certainly required, and your proposed product certainly does not satisfy it. That is why I said you had some technical details to attend to. Notice that in the theorem the elementary factors are rather strange looking.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:53
2
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If $$sum frac{1}{a^2_n}$$ is absolutely convergent (which it is in this case), then $$f(z) = prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z}{a_n}right) e^{z/a_n}$$ is a holomorphic function with zeroes exactly at $a_n$. If you don't mind extra zeroes, then you could consider $F(z) = f(z)f(-z)$, which has zeroes at $a_n$ and $-a_n$ but the slightly nicer form: $$ prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z^2}{a^2_n} right).$$
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– Lorem Ipsum
Dec 6 '18 at 1:39
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Thanks for the link, i was not aware of that theorem. Anyways in the theorem it mentions that $mid z - a_n mid to 0 $ as $n to infty$. Somehow I am not seeing that happening!
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:48
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Thanks for the link, i was not aware of that theorem. Anyways in the theorem it mentions that $mid z - a_n mid to 0 $ as $n to infty$. Somehow I am not seeing that happening!
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:48
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@henceproved Where did you see $|z-a_n|rightarrow 0$? The first form of the theorem only requires that $a_nrightarrow infty$.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:50
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@henceproved Where did you see $|z-a_n|rightarrow 0$? The first form of the theorem only requires that $a_nrightarrow infty$.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:50
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sorry typo it should be $mid z - a_n mid to 1$ and I saw this condition in the motivation section.
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:52
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sorry typo it should be $mid z - a_n mid to 1$ and I saw this condition in the motivation section.
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– henceproved
Dec 5 '18 at 23:52
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@henceproved Ah, that condition is certainly required, and your proposed product certainly does not satisfy it. That is why I said you had some technical details to attend to. Notice that in the theorem the elementary factors are rather strange looking.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:53
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@henceproved Ah, that condition is certainly required, and your proposed product certainly does not satisfy it. That is why I said you had some technical details to attend to. Notice that in the theorem the elementary factors are rather strange looking.
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– RandomMathGuy
Dec 5 '18 at 23:53
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If $$sum frac{1}{a^2_n}$$ is absolutely convergent (which it is in this case), then $$f(z) = prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z}{a_n}right) e^{z/a_n}$$ is a holomorphic function with zeroes exactly at $a_n$. If you don't mind extra zeroes, then you could consider $F(z) = f(z)f(-z)$, which has zeroes at $a_n$ and $-a_n$ but the slightly nicer form: $$ prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z^2}{a^2_n} right).$$
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– Lorem Ipsum
Dec 6 '18 at 1:39
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If $$sum frac{1}{a^2_n}$$ is absolutely convergent (which it is in this case), then $$f(z) = prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z}{a_n}right) e^{z/a_n}$$ is a holomorphic function with zeroes exactly at $a_n$. If you don't mind extra zeroes, then you could consider $F(z) = f(z)f(-z)$, which has zeroes at $a_n$ and $-a_n$ but the slightly nicer form: $$ prod_{n=1}^{infty} left(1 - frac{z^2}{a^2_n} right).$$
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– Lorem Ipsum
Dec 6 '18 at 1:39
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The function you have is actually nowhere analytic and not even well defined.
Suppose that $f:mathbb{C}rightarrow mathbb{C}$ where $f(x) = lim_{nrightarrowinfty}prod_{i=1}^{n}(x-a_n)$ is well defined, i.e $f(x)in mathbb{C}$ for each $xin mathbb{C}$.
Pick any $xinmathbb{C},nin mathbb{N}$.
begin{align}
|a_n-a_m|&=|n+frac{1}{n}-m-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - |frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - 2
end{align}
So that $|a_n - a_m|rightarrowinfty$ as $mrightarrow infty$. We also have that begin{align}
|x-a_m|&= |(x-a_n)-(a_n-a_m)|\
&geq |a_n -a_m| - |x-a_n|
end{align}
Now, as $|a_n-a_m|rightarrowinfty$, choose $M = 2+|x-a_n|$ so that there exists $Nin mathbb{N}$ such that $m> N$ implies $|a_n-a_m| geq M$ which implies $|x-a_m| geq 2$.
Note $|x-a_i|$ is nonzero for all $1leq ileq N$. Thus $prod_{1leq ileq N}{|x-a_i|}$ is equal to some $varepsilon>0$. Now there exists $kinmathbb{N}$ such that $frac{1}{2^k} leq varepsilon$. Now $prod_{i=1}^{N+m+k}|x-a_i| geq varepsilon2^{m+k}geq2^{m}$. Thus $f(x)$ must be unbounded so that $f(x)notin mathbb{C}$. Hence $f$ is not well defined.
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This addresses "is my approach correct" but not "can someone write down the rigorous answer to it".
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– Did
Dec 7 '18 at 20:07
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The function you have is actually nowhere analytic and not even well defined.
Suppose that $f:mathbb{C}rightarrow mathbb{C}$ where $f(x) = lim_{nrightarrowinfty}prod_{i=1}^{n}(x-a_n)$ is well defined, i.e $f(x)in mathbb{C}$ for each $xin mathbb{C}$.
Pick any $xinmathbb{C},nin mathbb{N}$.
begin{align}
|a_n-a_m|&=|n+frac{1}{n}-m-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - |frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - 2
end{align}
So that $|a_n - a_m|rightarrowinfty$ as $mrightarrow infty$. We also have that begin{align}
|x-a_m|&= |(x-a_n)-(a_n-a_m)|\
&geq |a_n -a_m| - |x-a_n|
end{align}
Now, as $|a_n-a_m|rightarrowinfty$, choose $M = 2+|x-a_n|$ so that there exists $Nin mathbb{N}$ such that $m> N$ implies $|a_n-a_m| geq M$ which implies $|x-a_m| geq 2$.
Note $|x-a_i|$ is nonzero for all $1leq ileq N$. Thus $prod_{1leq ileq N}{|x-a_i|}$ is equal to some $varepsilon>0$. Now there exists $kinmathbb{N}$ such that $frac{1}{2^k} leq varepsilon$. Now $prod_{i=1}^{N+m+k}|x-a_i| geq varepsilon2^{m+k}geq2^{m}$. Thus $f(x)$ must be unbounded so that $f(x)notin mathbb{C}$. Hence $f$ is not well defined.
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This addresses "is my approach correct" but not "can someone write down the rigorous answer to it".
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– Did
Dec 7 '18 at 20:07
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The function you have is actually nowhere analytic and not even well defined.
Suppose that $f:mathbb{C}rightarrow mathbb{C}$ where $f(x) = lim_{nrightarrowinfty}prod_{i=1}^{n}(x-a_n)$ is well defined, i.e $f(x)in mathbb{C}$ for each $xin mathbb{C}$.
Pick any $xinmathbb{C},nin mathbb{N}$.
begin{align}
|a_n-a_m|&=|n+frac{1}{n}-m-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - |frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - 2
end{align}
So that $|a_n - a_m|rightarrowinfty$ as $mrightarrow infty$. We also have that begin{align}
|x-a_m|&= |(x-a_n)-(a_n-a_m)|\
&geq |a_n -a_m| - |x-a_n|
end{align}
Now, as $|a_n-a_m|rightarrowinfty$, choose $M = 2+|x-a_n|$ so that there exists $Nin mathbb{N}$ such that $m> N$ implies $|a_n-a_m| geq M$ which implies $|x-a_m| geq 2$.
Note $|x-a_i|$ is nonzero for all $1leq ileq N$. Thus $prod_{1leq ileq N}{|x-a_i|}$ is equal to some $varepsilon>0$. Now there exists $kinmathbb{N}$ such that $frac{1}{2^k} leq varepsilon$. Now $prod_{i=1}^{N+m+k}|x-a_i| geq varepsilon2^{m+k}geq2^{m}$. Thus $f(x)$ must be unbounded so that $f(x)notin mathbb{C}$. Hence $f$ is not well defined.
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The function you have is actually nowhere analytic and not even well defined.
Suppose that $f:mathbb{C}rightarrow mathbb{C}$ where $f(x) = lim_{nrightarrowinfty}prod_{i=1}^{n}(x-a_n)$ is well defined, i.e $f(x)in mathbb{C}$ for each $xin mathbb{C}$.
Pick any $xinmathbb{C},nin mathbb{N}$.
begin{align}
|a_n-a_m|&=|n+frac{1}{n}-m-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - |frac{1}{n}-frac{1}{m}|\
&geq |n-m| - 2
end{align}
So that $|a_n - a_m|rightarrowinfty$ as $mrightarrow infty$. We also have that begin{align}
|x-a_m|&= |(x-a_n)-(a_n-a_m)|\
&geq |a_n -a_m| - |x-a_n|
end{align}
Now, as $|a_n-a_m|rightarrowinfty$, choose $M = 2+|x-a_n|$ so that there exists $Nin mathbb{N}$ such that $m> N$ implies $|a_n-a_m| geq M$ which implies $|x-a_m| geq 2$.
Note $|x-a_i|$ is nonzero for all $1leq ileq N$. Thus $prod_{1leq ileq N}{|x-a_i|}$ is equal to some $varepsilon>0$. Now there exists $kinmathbb{N}$ such that $frac{1}{2^k} leq varepsilon$. Now $prod_{i=1}^{N+m+k}|x-a_i| geq varepsilon2^{m+k}geq2^{m}$. Thus $f(x)$ must be unbounded so that $f(x)notin mathbb{C}$. Hence $f$ is not well defined.
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This addresses "is my approach correct" but not "can someone write down the rigorous answer to it".
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– Did
Dec 7 '18 at 20:07
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This addresses "is my approach correct" but not "can someone write down the rigorous answer to it".
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– Did
Dec 7 '18 at 20:07
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This addresses "is my approach correct" but not "can someone write down the rigorous answer to it".
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– Did
Dec 7 '18 at 20:07
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This addresses "is my approach correct" but not "can someone write down the rigorous answer to it".
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– Did
Dec 7 '18 at 20:07
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I guess you mean besides the function $f = 0$.
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– jjagmath
Dec 5 '18 at 23:42
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@jjagmath Yes $f neq 0$
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– henceproved
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