Prove $sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}={n+2choose m+2}$ [closed]












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How can I prove for $m,nge0$:



$$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}={n+2choose m+2}$$



I know you can start both sums from $m$ because every value below is zero but I am getting stuck trying to get algebraic proof.










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  • I'm not sure if i got the question right. Is m a number set beforehand? If so, for cases when m > 0, I'm not quite sure whether $0 choose 1$ is defined or in general $n choose m$ for m greater than n is defined. Shouldn't the lower bound of the sum be m?
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:41










  • @Ofya It's typical to define $binom{n}{m}$ to be $0$ when $m > n$.
    – Austin Mohr
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:44








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    @Austin thanks, so it actually doesn't make a difference whether the lower bound of the sum is 0 or m
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:45
















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How can I prove for $m,nge0$:



$$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}={n+2choose m+2}$$



I know you can start both sums from $m$ because every value below is zero but I am getting stuck trying to get algebraic proof.










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  • I'm not sure if i got the question right. Is m a number set beforehand? If so, for cases when m > 0, I'm not quite sure whether $0 choose 1$ is defined or in general $n choose m$ for m greater than n is defined. Shouldn't the lower bound of the sum be m?
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:41










  • @Ofya It's typical to define $binom{n}{m}$ to be $0$ when $m > n$.
    – Austin Mohr
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:44








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    @Austin thanks, so it actually doesn't make a difference whether the lower bound of the sum is 0 or m
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:45














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How can I prove for $m,nge0$:



$$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}={n+2choose m+2}$$



I know you can start both sums from $m$ because every value below is zero but I am getting stuck trying to get algebraic proof.










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How can I prove for $m,nge0$:



$$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}={n+2choose m+2}$$



I know you can start both sums from $m$ because every value below is zero but I am getting stuck trying to get algebraic proof.







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  • I'm not sure if i got the question right. Is m a number set beforehand? If so, for cases when m > 0, I'm not quite sure whether $0 choose 1$ is defined or in general $n choose m$ for m greater than n is defined. Shouldn't the lower bound of the sum be m?
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:41










  • @Ofya It's typical to define $binom{n}{m}$ to be $0$ when $m > n$.
    – Austin Mohr
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:44








  • 1




    @Austin thanks, so it actually doesn't make a difference whether the lower bound of the sum is 0 or m
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:45


















  • I'm not sure if i got the question right. Is m a number set beforehand? If so, for cases when m > 0, I'm not quite sure whether $0 choose 1$ is defined or in general $n choose m$ for m greater than n is defined. Shouldn't the lower bound of the sum be m?
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:41










  • @Ofya It's typical to define $binom{n}{m}$ to be $0$ when $m > n$.
    – Austin Mohr
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:44








  • 1




    @Austin thanks, so it actually doesn't make a difference whether the lower bound of the sum is 0 or m
    – Ofya
    Dec 3 '18 at 21:45
















I'm not sure if i got the question right. Is m a number set beforehand? If so, for cases when m > 0, I'm not quite sure whether $0 choose 1$ is defined or in general $n choose m$ for m greater than n is defined. Shouldn't the lower bound of the sum be m?
– Ofya
Dec 3 '18 at 21:41




I'm not sure if i got the question right. Is m a number set beforehand? If so, for cases when m > 0, I'm not quite sure whether $0 choose 1$ is defined or in general $n choose m$ for m greater than n is defined. Shouldn't the lower bound of the sum be m?
– Ofya
Dec 3 '18 at 21:41












@Ofya It's typical to define $binom{n}{m}$ to be $0$ when $m > n$.
– Austin Mohr
Dec 3 '18 at 21:44






@Ofya It's typical to define $binom{n}{m}$ to be $0$ when $m > n$.
– Austin Mohr
Dec 3 '18 at 21:44






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@Austin thanks, so it actually doesn't make a difference whether the lower bound of the sum is 0 or m
– Ofya
Dec 3 '18 at 21:45




@Austin thanks, so it actually doesn't make a difference whether the lower bound of the sum is 0 or m
– Ofya
Dec 3 '18 at 21:45










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A formula issued from Pascal Triangle:



$${ichoose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-1choose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-2choose j-1}+{i-2choose j} = ...$$



$${ichoose j} = sum_{k=j-1}^{i-1}{kchoose j-1}$$



Then the result is obtained by applying this formula twice:



$$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}= sum_{i=0}^n{i+1choose m+1} = {n+2choose m+2}$$






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    There's also a nice combinatorial proof here. Given $n+2$ distinct apples in a line, how many ways can I choose $m+2$ of them? The right-hand side clearly counts this directly, so we focus our attention on the left-hand side.



    Number the apples $1, 2, dots, n+2$. Our process of choosing $m+2$ apples is as follows:




    1. Pick $0 leq i leq n$, and select apple $i+2$.

    2. Pick $0 leq j leq i$, and select apple $j+1$

    3. Pick $m$ apples among those ranging from $1$ to $j$.


    This gives the summation on the left-hand-side; to see that it also counts exactly the ways to choose $m+2$ apples, note that this procedure simply picks the two apples with highest labels first, and then picks the other $m$.






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      Let $[x^m] f(x)$ denote the coefficient of $x^m$ in the expansion of $f(x)$.
      $$
      sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}=[x^m]sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{(x+1)^j}
      = [x^m]sum_{i=0}^n{frac{(x+1)^{i+1}-1}{x}}= [x^{m+1}]sum_{i=0}^n(x+1)^{i+1}
      = [x^{m+1}]frac{(x+1)^{n+2}-(x+1)}{x}=binom{n+2}{m+2}
      $$

      $blacksquare$






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        A formula issued from Pascal Triangle:



        $${ichoose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-1choose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-2choose j-1}+{i-2choose j} = ...$$



        $${ichoose j} = sum_{k=j-1}^{i-1}{kchoose j-1}$$



        Then the result is obtained by applying this formula twice:



        $$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}= sum_{i=0}^n{i+1choose m+1} = {n+2choose m+2}$$






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          A formula issued from Pascal Triangle:



          $${ichoose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-1choose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-2choose j-1}+{i-2choose j} = ...$$



          $${ichoose j} = sum_{k=j-1}^{i-1}{kchoose j-1}$$



          Then the result is obtained by applying this formula twice:



          $$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}= sum_{i=0}^n{i+1choose m+1} = {n+2choose m+2}$$






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            A formula issued from Pascal Triangle:



            $${ichoose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-1choose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-2choose j-1}+{i-2choose j} = ...$$



            $${ichoose j} = sum_{k=j-1}^{i-1}{kchoose j-1}$$



            Then the result is obtained by applying this formula twice:



            $$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}= sum_{i=0}^n{i+1choose m+1} = {n+2choose m+2}$$






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            A formula issued from Pascal Triangle:



            $${ichoose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-1choose j} = {i-1choose j-1}+{i-2choose j-1}+{i-2choose j} = ...$$



            $${ichoose j} = sum_{k=j-1}^{i-1}{kchoose j-1}$$



            Then the result is obtained by applying this formula twice:



            $$sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}= sum_{i=0}^n{i+1choose m+1} = {n+2choose m+2}$$







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                There's also a nice combinatorial proof here. Given $n+2$ distinct apples in a line, how many ways can I choose $m+2$ of them? The right-hand side clearly counts this directly, so we focus our attention on the left-hand side.



                Number the apples $1, 2, dots, n+2$. Our process of choosing $m+2$ apples is as follows:




                1. Pick $0 leq i leq n$, and select apple $i+2$.

                2. Pick $0 leq j leq i$, and select apple $j+1$

                3. Pick $m$ apples among those ranging from $1$ to $j$.


                This gives the summation on the left-hand-side; to see that it also counts exactly the ways to choose $m+2$ apples, note that this procedure simply picks the two apples with highest labels first, and then picks the other $m$.






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                  There's also a nice combinatorial proof here. Given $n+2$ distinct apples in a line, how many ways can I choose $m+2$ of them? The right-hand side clearly counts this directly, so we focus our attention on the left-hand side.



                  Number the apples $1, 2, dots, n+2$. Our process of choosing $m+2$ apples is as follows:




                  1. Pick $0 leq i leq n$, and select apple $i+2$.

                  2. Pick $0 leq j leq i$, and select apple $j+1$

                  3. Pick $m$ apples among those ranging from $1$ to $j$.


                  This gives the summation on the left-hand-side; to see that it also counts exactly the ways to choose $m+2$ apples, note that this procedure simply picks the two apples with highest labels first, and then picks the other $m$.






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                    There's also a nice combinatorial proof here. Given $n+2$ distinct apples in a line, how many ways can I choose $m+2$ of them? The right-hand side clearly counts this directly, so we focus our attention on the left-hand side.



                    Number the apples $1, 2, dots, n+2$. Our process of choosing $m+2$ apples is as follows:




                    1. Pick $0 leq i leq n$, and select apple $i+2$.

                    2. Pick $0 leq j leq i$, and select apple $j+1$

                    3. Pick $m$ apples among those ranging from $1$ to $j$.


                    This gives the summation on the left-hand-side; to see that it also counts exactly the ways to choose $m+2$ apples, note that this procedure simply picks the two apples with highest labels first, and then picks the other $m$.






                    share|cite|improve this answer












                    There's also a nice combinatorial proof here. Given $n+2$ distinct apples in a line, how many ways can I choose $m+2$ of them? The right-hand side clearly counts this directly, so we focus our attention on the left-hand side.



                    Number the apples $1, 2, dots, n+2$. Our process of choosing $m+2$ apples is as follows:




                    1. Pick $0 leq i leq n$, and select apple $i+2$.

                    2. Pick $0 leq j leq i$, and select apple $j+1$

                    3. Pick $m$ apples among those ranging from $1$ to $j$.


                    This gives the summation on the left-hand-side; to see that it also counts exactly the ways to choose $m+2$ apples, note that this procedure simply picks the two apples with highest labels first, and then picks the other $m$.







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                        Let $[x^m] f(x)$ denote the coefficient of $x^m$ in the expansion of $f(x)$.
                        $$
                        sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}=[x^m]sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{(x+1)^j}
                        = [x^m]sum_{i=0}^n{frac{(x+1)^{i+1}-1}{x}}= [x^{m+1}]sum_{i=0}^n(x+1)^{i+1}
                        = [x^{m+1}]frac{(x+1)^{n+2}-(x+1)}{x}=binom{n+2}{m+2}
                        $$

                        $blacksquare$






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                          Let $[x^m] f(x)$ denote the coefficient of $x^m$ in the expansion of $f(x)$.
                          $$
                          sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}=[x^m]sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{(x+1)^j}
                          = [x^m]sum_{i=0}^n{frac{(x+1)^{i+1}-1}{x}}= [x^{m+1}]sum_{i=0}^n(x+1)^{i+1}
                          = [x^{m+1}]frac{(x+1)^{n+2}-(x+1)}{x}=binom{n+2}{m+2}
                          $$

                          $blacksquare$






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                            Let $[x^m] f(x)$ denote the coefficient of $x^m$ in the expansion of $f(x)$.
                            $$
                            sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}=[x^m]sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{(x+1)^j}
                            = [x^m]sum_{i=0}^n{frac{(x+1)^{i+1}-1}{x}}= [x^{m+1}]sum_{i=0}^n(x+1)^{i+1}
                            = [x^{m+1}]frac{(x+1)^{n+2}-(x+1)}{x}=binom{n+2}{m+2}
                            $$

                            $blacksquare$






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                            Let $[x^m] f(x)$ denote the coefficient of $x^m$ in the expansion of $f(x)$.
                            $$
                            sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{jchoose m}=[x^m]sum_{i=0}^nsum_{j=0}^i{(x+1)^j}
                            = [x^m]sum_{i=0}^n{frac{(x+1)^{i+1}-1}{x}}= [x^{m+1}]sum_{i=0}^n(x+1)^{i+1}
                            = [x^{m+1}]frac{(x+1)^{n+2}-(x+1)}{x}=binom{n+2}{m+2}
                            $$

                            $blacksquare$







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