Stokes' Theorem - Vector Field
I am having problems trying to verify Stokes' theorem (below) as part of a question.
$$iint_{S} text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S=oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r$$
The vector field in question is $vec F=(xy,z^3,xz^2)$ and I am looking over a triangle plane that joins $(0,0,1)$ , $(0,4,1)$ and $(4,0,1). $
Computing the surface integral (over the triangle plane) does not seem to yield the same answer as the closed line integral (taking around the edge of the triangle) so I know I am making a mistake somewhere!
My working is below:
Surface Integral:
Function of plane: $$f(z) = z-1$$
Unit normal to plane:
$$vec n = frac{nabla f}{mod{(nabla f)}} = (0,0,1)$$
Also,
$$dS = dA(0,0,1) cdot vec n = dA = dxdy$$
Curl of vector field:
$$ text{curl} vec F = (-3z^2,-z^2,-x)$$
Working out the surface integral:
$$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$
$$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$
Limits are $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,4]$
$$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_4 -x dydx $$
$$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{64}{3}$$
Line Integral
Traversing the edges in an anticlockwise direction, I have split the triangle into three lines. $l_1$ from $(0,0,1)$ to $(0,4,1)$ , $l_2$ from $(0,4,1)$ to $(4,0,1)$ and $l_3$ from $(4,0,1)$ to $(0,0,1)$ .
Also,
$$dvec r = (dx,dy,dz)$$
$l_1$
$$ int_{l_1}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_1} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_1$ $x=0$ $dx=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($y$ varies).
$$ = int_{l_1} dy $$
$$ = int_{0}^4 dy $$
$$ = 4 $$
$l_3$
$$ int_{l_3}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_3} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_3} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_3$ $y=0$ $dy=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($x$ varies).
$$ = 0 $$
$l_2$
$$ int_{l_2}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_2} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_2$ $x$ and $y$ vary, $y=4-x$ $dy=-dx$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ .
$$ = int_{l_3} x(4-x)dx - int_{l_3} dx$$
$$ = int_{0}^4 4x-x^2-1dx $$
$$ = 32-frac{64}{3}-4 $$
$$ = frac{20}{3} $$
And so
$$oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r = 4 + frac{20}{3} = frac{32}{3}$$
Can anyone see where I am going wrong? Hopefully, I am missing something relatively simple!
Thanks!
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I am having problems trying to verify Stokes' theorem (below) as part of a question.
$$iint_{S} text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S=oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r$$
The vector field in question is $vec F=(xy,z^3,xz^2)$ and I am looking over a triangle plane that joins $(0,0,1)$ , $(0,4,1)$ and $(4,0,1). $
Computing the surface integral (over the triangle plane) does not seem to yield the same answer as the closed line integral (taking around the edge of the triangle) so I know I am making a mistake somewhere!
My working is below:
Surface Integral:
Function of plane: $$f(z) = z-1$$
Unit normal to plane:
$$vec n = frac{nabla f}{mod{(nabla f)}} = (0,0,1)$$
Also,
$$dS = dA(0,0,1) cdot vec n = dA = dxdy$$
Curl of vector field:
$$ text{curl} vec F = (-3z^2,-z^2,-x)$$
Working out the surface integral:
$$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$
$$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$
Limits are $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,4]$
$$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_4 -x dydx $$
$$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{64}{3}$$
Line Integral
Traversing the edges in an anticlockwise direction, I have split the triangle into three lines. $l_1$ from $(0,0,1)$ to $(0,4,1)$ , $l_2$ from $(0,4,1)$ to $(4,0,1)$ and $l_3$ from $(4,0,1)$ to $(0,0,1)$ .
Also,
$$dvec r = (dx,dy,dz)$$
$l_1$
$$ int_{l_1}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_1} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_1$ $x=0$ $dx=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($y$ varies).
$$ = int_{l_1} dy $$
$$ = int_{0}^4 dy $$
$$ = 4 $$
$l_3$
$$ int_{l_3}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_3} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_3} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_3$ $y=0$ $dy=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($x$ varies).
$$ = 0 $$
$l_2$
$$ int_{l_2}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_2} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_2$ $x$ and $y$ vary, $y=4-x$ $dy=-dx$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ .
$$ = int_{l_3} x(4-x)dx - int_{l_3} dx$$
$$ = int_{0}^4 4x-x^2-1dx $$
$$ = 32-frac{64}{3}-4 $$
$$ = frac{20}{3} $$
And so
$$oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r = 4 + frac{20}{3} = frac{32}{3}$$
Can anyone see where I am going wrong? Hopefully, I am missing something relatively simple!
Thanks!
vector-fields surface-integrals line-integrals stokes-theorem
you must not normalize $n$ (you will get 32/3 for the curl integral), i that case $dS=(0,0,16)$ I can write the details if you want.
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:45
@PicaudVincent not sure what you mean here? It was my understanding I should normalise the normal vector of the plane and also use $dS=dA vec ncdot (0,0,1) $ ? But here the normal I calculated has magnitude 1?
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:50
I m currently writing the details, plz hold on
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:52
Wait I think my limits on my surface integral may be wrong!
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:54
I think I have made an error in the limits applied to my surface integral. Working out the surface integral: $$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$ $$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$ Limits should be $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,0]$ (bottom limit on y should be 0 not 4). $$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_0 -x dydx $$ $$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{32}{3}$$
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:04
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I am having problems trying to verify Stokes' theorem (below) as part of a question.
$$iint_{S} text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S=oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r$$
The vector field in question is $vec F=(xy,z^3,xz^2)$ and I am looking over a triangle plane that joins $(0,0,1)$ , $(0,4,1)$ and $(4,0,1). $
Computing the surface integral (over the triangle plane) does not seem to yield the same answer as the closed line integral (taking around the edge of the triangle) so I know I am making a mistake somewhere!
My working is below:
Surface Integral:
Function of plane: $$f(z) = z-1$$
Unit normal to plane:
$$vec n = frac{nabla f}{mod{(nabla f)}} = (0,0,1)$$
Also,
$$dS = dA(0,0,1) cdot vec n = dA = dxdy$$
Curl of vector field:
$$ text{curl} vec F = (-3z^2,-z^2,-x)$$
Working out the surface integral:
$$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$
$$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$
Limits are $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,4]$
$$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_4 -x dydx $$
$$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{64}{3}$$
Line Integral
Traversing the edges in an anticlockwise direction, I have split the triangle into three lines. $l_1$ from $(0,0,1)$ to $(0,4,1)$ , $l_2$ from $(0,4,1)$ to $(4,0,1)$ and $l_3$ from $(4,0,1)$ to $(0,0,1)$ .
Also,
$$dvec r = (dx,dy,dz)$$
$l_1$
$$ int_{l_1}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_1} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_1$ $x=0$ $dx=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($y$ varies).
$$ = int_{l_1} dy $$
$$ = int_{0}^4 dy $$
$$ = 4 $$
$l_3$
$$ int_{l_3}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_3} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_3} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_3$ $y=0$ $dy=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($x$ varies).
$$ = 0 $$
$l_2$
$$ int_{l_2}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_2} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_2$ $x$ and $y$ vary, $y=4-x$ $dy=-dx$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ .
$$ = int_{l_3} x(4-x)dx - int_{l_3} dx$$
$$ = int_{0}^4 4x-x^2-1dx $$
$$ = 32-frac{64}{3}-4 $$
$$ = frac{20}{3} $$
And so
$$oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r = 4 + frac{20}{3} = frac{32}{3}$$
Can anyone see where I am going wrong? Hopefully, I am missing something relatively simple!
Thanks!
vector-fields surface-integrals line-integrals stokes-theorem
I am having problems trying to verify Stokes' theorem (below) as part of a question.
$$iint_{S} text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S=oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r$$
The vector field in question is $vec F=(xy,z^3,xz^2)$ and I am looking over a triangle plane that joins $(0,0,1)$ , $(0,4,1)$ and $(4,0,1). $
Computing the surface integral (over the triangle plane) does not seem to yield the same answer as the closed line integral (taking around the edge of the triangle) so I know I am making a mistake somewhere!
My working is below:
Surface Integral:
Function of plane: $$f(z) = z-1$$
Unit normal to plane:
$$vec n = frac{nabla f}{mod{(nabla f)}} = (0,0,1)$$
Also,
$$dS = dA(0,0,1) cdot vec n = dA = dxdy$$
Curl of vector field:
$$ text{curl} vec F = (-3z^2,-z^2,-x)$$
Working out the surface integral:
$$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$
$$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$
Limits are $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,4]$
$$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_4 -x dydx $$
$$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{64}{3}$$
Line Integral
Traversing the edges in an anticlockwise direction, I have split the triangle into three lines. $l_1$ from $(0,0,1)$ to $(0,4,1)$ , $l_2$ from $(0,4,1)$ to $(4,0,1)$ and $l_3$ from $(4,0,1)$ to $(0,0,1)$ .
Also,
$$dvec r = (dx,dy,dz)$$
$l_1$
$$ int_{l_1}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_1} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_1$ $x=0$ $dx=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($y$ varies).
$$ = int_{l_1} dy $$
$$ = int_{0}^4 dy $$
$$ = 4 $$
$l_3$
$$ int_{l_3}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_3} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_3} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_3$ $y=0$ $dy=0$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ ($x$ varies).
$$ = 0 $$
$l_2$
$$ int_{l_2}vec F cdot dvec r = int_{l_1} (xy,z^3,xz^2) cdot (dx,dy,dz)$$
$$ = int_{l_2} xydx+z^3dy+xz^2dz $$
Across $l_2$ $x$ and $y$ vary, $y=4-x$ $dy=-dx$ $z=1$ $dz=0$ .
$$ = int_{l_3} x(4-x)dx - int_{l_3} dx$$
$$ = int_{0}^4 4x-x^2-1dx $$
$$ = 32-frac{64}{3}-4 $$
$$ = frac{20}{3} $$
And so
$$oint_{c} vec F cdot dvec r = 4 + frac{20}{3} = frac{32}{3}$$
Can anyone see where I am going wrong? Hopefully, I am missing something relatively simple!
Thanks!
vector-fields surface-integrals line-integrals stokes-theorem
vector-fields surface-integrals line-integrals stokes-theorem
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asked Dec 3 '18 at 20:19
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you must not normalize $n$ (you will get 32/3 for the curl integral), i that case $dS=(0,0,16)$ I can write the details if you want.
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:45
@PicaudVincent not sure what you mean here? It was my understanding I should normalise the normal vector of the plane and also use $dS=dA vec ncdot (0,0,1) $ ? But here the normal I calculated has magnitude 1?
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:50
I m currently writing the details, plz hold on
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:52
Wait I think my limits on my surface integral may be wrong!
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:54
I think I have made an error in the limits applied to my surface integral. Working out the surface integral: $$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$ $$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$ Limits should be $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,0]$ (bottom limit on y should be 0 not 4). $$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_0 -x dydx $$ $$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{32}{3}$$
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:04
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you must not normalize $n$ (you will get 32/3 for the curl integral), i that case $dS=(0,0,16)$ I can write the details if you want.
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:45
@PicaudVincent not sure what you mean here? It was my understanding I should normalise the normal vector of the plane and also use $dS=dA vec ncdot (0,0,1) $ ? But here the normal I calculated has magnitude 1?
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:50
I m currently writing the details, plz hold on
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:52
Wait I think my limits on my surface integral may be wrong!
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:54
I think I have made an error in the limits applied to my surface integral. Working out the surface integral: $$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$ $$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$ Limits should be $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,0]$ (bottom limit on y should be 0 not 4). $$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_0 -x dydx $$ $$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{32}{3}$$
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:04
you must not normalize $n$ (you will get 32/3 for the curl integral), i that case $dS=(0,0,16)$ I can write the details if you want.
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:45
you must not normalize $n$ (you will get 32/3 for the curl integral), i that case $dS=(0,0,16)$ I can write the details if you want.
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:45
@PicaudVincent not sure what you mean here? It was my understanding I should normalise the normal vector of the plane and also use $dS=dA vec ncdot (0,0,1) $ ? But here the normal I calculated has magnitude 1?
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:50
@PicaudVincent not sure what you mean here? It was my understanding I should normalise the normal vector of the plane and also use $dS=dA vec ncdot (0,0,1) $ ? But here the normal I calculated has magnitude 1?
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:50
I m currently writing the details, plz hold on
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:52
I m currently writing the details, plz hold on
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:52
Wait I think my limits on my surface integral may be wrong!
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:54
Wait I think my limits on my surface integral may be wrong!
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:54
I think I have made an error in the limits applied to my surface integral. Working out the surface integral: $$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$ $$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$ Limits should be $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,0]$ (bottom limit on y should be 0 not 4). $$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_0 -x dydx $$ $$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{32}{3}$$
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:04
I think I have made an error in the limits applied to my surface integral. Working out the surface integral: $$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$ $$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$ Limits should be $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,0]$ (bottom limit on y should be 0 not 4). $$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_0 -x dydx $$ $$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{32}{3}$$
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:04
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The surface associated to your triangle is defined by: $lambda_1in[0,1], lambda_2in[0,1]$ such that $lambda_1+lambda_2le 1$
$$
t(lambda_1,lambda_2)=lambda_1(v_2-v_1)+lambda_2(v_3-v_1)+v1=(4lambda_2,4lambda_1,1)
$$
the Curvilinear abscissa are:
$$
gamma_1(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_1}}=(0,4,0)
$$
$$
gamma_2(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_2}}=(4,0,0)
$$
Thus surface element $dS$ is
$$
dS=gamma_1wedge gamma_2 dlambda_1dlambda_2=(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2
$$
So
begin{align}
intint curl F.dS&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1} underbrace{(-3z^2,-z^2,-x)circ t(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(-3,-1,-4lambda_2)} cdot underbrace{dS(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2} \
&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1}64lambda_2dlambda_1dlambda_2 \ &=64int_{lambda_1=0}^1frac{1}{2}(1-lambda_1)^2dlambda_1\&=frac{32}{3}
end{align}
1
Thanks - another way to do it I think. Problem with my original question is I think the limits on my integral were wrong. I have commented on the original question with the amendments.
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:16
@Ctrp thanks, the important thing is to understand what you are doing and get the right result :)
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 21:21
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The surface associated to your triangle is defined by: $lambda_1in[0,1], lambda_2in[0,1]$ such that $lambda_1+lambda_2le 1$
$$
t(lambda_1,lambda_2)=lambda_1(v_2-v_1)+lambda_2(v_3-v_1)+v1=(4lambda_2,4lambda_1,1)
$$
the Curvilinear abscissa are:
$$
gamma_1(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_1}}=(0,4,0)
$$
$$
gamma_2(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_2}}=(4,0,0)
$$
Thus surface element $dS$ is
$$
dS=gamma_1wedge gamma_2 dlambda_1dlambda_2=(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2
$$
So
begin{align}
intint curl F.dS&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1} underbrace{(-3z^2,-z^2,-x)circ t(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(-3,-1,-4lambda_2)} cdot underbrace{dS(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2} \
&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1}64lambda_2dlambda_1dlambda_2 \ &=64int_{lambda_1=0}^1frac{1}{2}(1-lambda_1)^2dlambda_1\&=frac{32}{3}
end{align}
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Thanks - another way to do it I think. Problem with my original question is I think the limits on my integral were wrong. I have commented on the original question with the amendments.
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:16
@Ctrp thanks, the important thing is to understand what you are doing and get the right result :)
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 21:21
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The surface associated to your triangle is defined by: $lambda_1in[0,1], lambda_2in[0,1]$ such that $lambda_1+lambda_2le 1$
$$
t(lambda_1,lambda_2)=lambda_1(v_2-v_1)+lambda_2(v_3-v_1)+v1=(4lambda_2,4lambda_1,1)
$$
the Curvilinear abscissa are:
$$
gamma_1(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_1}}=(0,4,0)
$$
$$
gamma_2(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_2}}=(4,0,0)
$$
Thus surface element $dS$ is
$$
dS=gamma_1wedge gamma_2 dlambda_1dlambda_2=(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2
$$
So
begin{align}
intint curl F.dS&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1} underbrace{(-3z^2,-z^2,-x)circ t(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(-3,-1,-4lambda_2)} cdot underbrace{dS(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2} \
&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1}64lambda_2dlambda_1dlambda_2 \ &=64int_{lambda_1=0}^1frac{1}{2}(1-lambda_1)^2dlambda_1\&=frac{32}{3}
end{align}
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Thanks - another way to do it I think. Problem with my original question is I think the limits on my integral were wrong. I have commented on the original question with the amendments.
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:16
@Ctrp thanks, the important thing is to understand what you are doing and get the right result :)
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 21:21
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The surface associated to your triangle is defined by: $lambda_1in[0,1], lambda_2in[0,1]$ such that $lambda_1+lambda_2le 1$
$$
t(lambda_1,lambda_2)=lambda_1(v_2-v_1)+lambda_2(v_3-v_1)+v1=(4lambda_2,4lambda_1,1)
$$
the Curvilinear abscissa are:
$$
gamma_1(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_1}}=(0,4,0)
$$
$$
gamma_2(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_2}}=(4,0,0)
$$
Thus surface element $dS$ is
$$
dS=gamma_1wedge gamma_2 dlambda_1dlambda_2=(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2
$$
So
begin{align}
intint curl F.dS&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1} underbrace{(-3z^2,-z^2,-x)circ t(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(-3,-1,-4lambda_2)} cdot underbrace{dS(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2} \
&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1}64lambda_2dlambda_1dlambda_2 \ &=64int_{lambda_1=0}^1frac{1}{2}(1-lambda_1)^2dlambda_1\&=frac{32}{3}
end{align}
The surface associated to your triangle is defined by: $lambda_1in[0,1], lambda_2in[0,1]$ such that $lambda_1+lambda_2le 1$
$$
t(lambda_1,lambda_2)=lambda_1(v_2-v_1)+lambda_2(v_3-v_1)+v1=(4lambda_2,4lambda_1,1)
$$
the Curvilinear abscissa are:
$$
gamma_1(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_1}}=(0,4,0)
$$
$$
gamma_2(lambda_1,lambda_2)=frac{partial t}{partial_{lambda_2}}=(4,0,0)
$$
Thus surface element $dS$ is
$$
dS=gamma_1wedge gamma_2 dlambda_1dlambda_2=(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2
$$
So
begin{align}
intint curl F.dS&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1} underbrace{(-3z^2,-z^2,-x)circ t(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(-3,-1,-4lambda_2)} cdot underbrace{dS(lambda_1,lambda_2)}_{(0,0,-16) dlambda_1dlambda_2} \
&=int_{lambda_1=0}^1int_{lambda_2=0}^{1-lambda_1}64lambda_2dlambda_1dlambda_2 \ &=64int_{lambda_1=0}^1frac{1}{2}(1-lambda_1)^2dlambda_1\&=frac{32}{3}
end{align}
edited Dec 4 '18 at 5:09
answered Dec 3 '18 at 21:06
Picaud Vincent
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Thanks - another way to do it I think. Problem with my original question is I think the limits on my integral were wrong. I have commented on the original question with the amendments.
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:16
@Ctrp thanks, the important thing is to understand what you are doing and get the right result :)
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 21:21
add a comment |
1
Thanks - another way to do it I think. Problem with my original question is I think the limits on my integral were wrong. I have commented on the original question with the amendments.
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:16
@Ctrp thanks, the important thing is to understand what you are doing and get the right result :)
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 21:21
1
1
Thanks - another way to do it I think. Problem with my original question is I think the limits on my integral were wrong. I have commented on the original question with the amendments.
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:16
Thanks - another way to do it I think. Problem with my original question is I think the limits on my integral were wrong. I have commented on the original question with the amendments.
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:16
@Ctrp thanks, the important thing is to understand what you are doing and get the right result :)
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 21:21
@Ctrp thanks, the important thing is to understand what you are doing and get the right result :)
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 21:21
add a comment |
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you must not normalize $n$ (you will get 32/3 for the curl integral), i that case $dS=(0,0,16)$ I can write the details if you want.
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:45
@PicaudVincent not sure what you mean here? It was my understanding I should normalise the normal vector of the plane and also use $dS=dA vec ncdot (0,0,1) $ ? But here the normal I calculated has magnitude 1?
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:50
I m currently writing the details, plz hold on
– Picaud Vincent
Dec 3 '18 at 20:52
Wait I think my limits on my surface integral may be wrong!
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 20:54
I think I have made an error in the limits applied to my surface integral. Working out the surface integral: $$ int int _ S text{curl} vec F cdot dvec S = int int _ S (-3z^2,-z^2,-x) cdot (0,0,1) dxdy$$ $$ = int int _ S -x dxdy $$ Limits should be $x = [0,4]$,$y=[4-x,0]$ (bottom limit on y should be 0 not 4). $$ = int^4_0int^{4-x}_0 -x dydx $$ $$ = int^4 _0 x^2 dx=frac{32}{3}$$
– Ctrp
Dec 3 '18 at 21:04