$frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b|}{|c-a|} + frac{|c|}{|b-a|} geq 2$











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$$ S=frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b|}{|c-a|} + frac{|c|}{|b-a|} geq 2.$$



Using inequality $ |x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ we showed that $ S >frac{3}{2}.$



For $b = 2a, c = 3a, S=5,$ that is, the sum has values greater than 2, but I have not been able to prove this.










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$$ S=frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b|}{|c-a|} + frac{|c|}{|b-a|} geq 2.$$



Using inequality $ |x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ we showed that $ S >frac{3}{2}.$



For $b = 2a, c = 3a, S=5,$ that is, the sum has values greater than 2, but I have not been able to prove this.










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$$ S=frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b|}{|c-a|} + frac{|c|}{|b-a|} geq 2.$$



Using inequality $ |x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ we showed that $ S >frac{3}{2}.$



For $b = 2a, c = 3a, S=5,$ that is, the sum has values greater than 2, but I have not been able to prove this.










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If $a, b, c$ are distinct real numbers then you demonstrate that:



$$ S=frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b|}{|c-a|} + frac{|c|}{|b-a|} geq 2.$$



Using inequality $ |x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ we showed that $ S >frac{3}{2}.$



For $b = 2a, c = 3a, S=5,$ that is, the sum has values greater than 2, but I have not been able to prove this.







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Let $frac{a}{b-c}=x$, $frac{b}{c-a}=y$ and $frac{c}{a-b}=z$.



Thus, $$xy+xz+yz=sum_{cyc}frac{ab}{(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{sumlimits_{cyc}ab(a-b)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{(a-b)(a-c)(b-c)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=-1.$$
Id est,
$$sum_{cyc}left|frac{a}{b-c}right|=sqrt{left(|x|+|y|+|z|right)^2}=sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}=$$
$$=sqrt{(x+y+z)^2+2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}geqsqrt{2+2}=2.$$






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Without loss of generality we can assume that $b$ and $c$ have the same sign. Then $|b|=|b-c|+|c|$. Also, $|c-a|le |c|+|a|$ and $|a-b| le |a|+|b-c|+|c|$. Therefore
$$
frac{|a|}{|b-c|}+frac{|b|}{|c-a|}+frac{|c|}{|a-b|} ge frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b-c|+|c|}{|c|+|a|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b-c|+|c|} = (*).$$



Denote $x=|a|$, $y=|b-c|$, $z=|c|$. Then, by Schwarz and by $x^2+y^2 ge 2xy$, we get
begin{align*}
(*) & = frac{x}{y}+frac{y+z}{z+x}+frac{z}{x+y+z} \
&ge frac{(x+(y+z)+z)^2}{xy+(y+z)(z+x)+z(x+y+z)} \
&= frac{x^2+y^2+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
&ge frac{2xy+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
&=2.end{align*}






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Notice that $|x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ implies that:
$$frac{|z|}{|x-y|} geq frac{|z|}{|x|+|y|}.$$
Then:



$$S geq frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|} + frac{|b|}{|a|+|c|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} = \
=frac{A}{B+C} + frac{B}{A+C} + frac{C}{A+B},$$

where I set $A = |a|, B = |b|$ and $C= |c|$ for the sake of simplicity.



Multiplying and dividing numerators and denominators by $(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)$, we get that:



$$S geq frac{A^3+A^2B + A^2 C + AB^2 + 3ABC + AC^2 + B^3 + B^2C + BC^2 + C^3 }{(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)}.$$



Notice that the denominator can be expanded as follows:



$$D = (B+C)(A+C)(A+B) = A^2B + A^2C + AB^2 + 2ABC + AC^2 + B^2C + BC^2.$$



Therefore, the numerator can be rewritten as:



$$ N= D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC.$$



In other words:



$$S geq frac{D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC}{D} > frac{D}{D} = 1.$$






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  • @timon92 It doesn't. This is my attempt. If I can find a better lower bound, then I will post it.
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    Fair enough. Also, using the so-called Nesbitt inequality one can get better bound: $Sge frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|}+frac{|b|}{|c|+|a|}+frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} ge frac 32.$
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I tried to give a simple proof by reducing to simpler and simpler cases, all the time doing "nothing", and the final rephrasing is simple, too.




  • First of all, let us note that the (LHS of the) given inequality is invariated by permutations of the letters / variables $a,b,c$. So we may and do assume $ale ble c$.


  • Let $s,t>0$ be then such that $b=a+s$, $c=b+t=a+s+t$.


  • Replacing the initial $a,b,c$ with $-c,-b,-a$, we may and do assume $bge 0$.


  • The given inequality can now be rewritten equivalently:
    $$
    S=
    frac{|a|}t +
    frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
    frac{|a+s+t|}s
    ge 2 .
    $$


  • If $a$ is $ge0$, then all three numbers $a,b,c$ are $ge 0$, and we can write
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    S
    &= frac{|a|}t +
    frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
    frac{|a+s+t|}s
    \
    &ge
    frac{0}t +
    frac{s}{s+t} +
    frac{s+t}s
    %ge 2sqrt{
    %frac{s}{s+t} cdot
    %frac{s+t}s}
    ge2 ,qquad(age 0)
    end{aligned}
    $$

    and the last $ge$ (AM-GM) is moreover $>0$ (because $tne 0$). The case with $a < b < c=a+s+tle 0$ is similar.


  • So the single interesting case is the one with $a<0le b<c$ . We rewrite the inequality in the form:
    $$
    frac{|b-s|}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
    $$

    Here, $b$ is allowed to vary between $0$ and $s$, and the first modulus is $|a|=-a=-(b-s)=s-b$, so we have to show:
    $$
    frac{s-b}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
    $$

    But this is a linear (ergo convex) function in $b$, so the inequality has to be tested only for the possible extremities, $b=0$ and $b=s$. For $b=0$ we obtain $frac st+frac tsge 2$, true, with equality for $s=t$. For $b=s$ we get $frac s{s+t}+frac {s+t}sge 2$, an inequality of the same shape, but we cannot get equality. (For intermediate values of $b$ we get intermediate values of the expression.)







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    Let $frac{a}{b-c}=x$, $frac{b}{c-a}=y$ and $frac{c}{a-b}=z$.



    Thus, $$xy+xz+yz=sum_{cyc}frac{ab}{(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{sumlimits_{cyc}ab(a-b)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{(a-b)(a-c)(b-c)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=-1.$$
    Id est,
    $$sum_{cyc}left|frac{a}{b-c}right|=sqrt{left(|x|+|y|+|z|right)^2}=sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}=$$
    $$=sqrt{(x+y+z)^2+2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}geqsqrt{2+2}=2.$$






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    Let $frac{a}{b-c}=x$, $frac{b}{c-a}=y$ and $frac{c}{a-b}=z$.



    Thus, $$xy+xz+yz=sum_{cyc}frac{ab}{(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{sumlimits_{cyc}ab(a-b)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{(a-b)(a-c)(b-c)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=-1.$$
    Id est,
    $$sum_{cyc}left|frac{a}{b-c}right|=sqrt{left(|x|+|y|+|z|right)^2}=sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}=$$
    $$=sqrt{(x+y+z)^2+2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}geqsqrt{2+2}=2.$$






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    Let $frac{a}{b-c}=x$, $frac{b}{c-a}=y$ and $frac{c}{a-b}=z$.



    Thus, $$xy+xz+yz=sum_{cyc}frac{ab}{(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{sumlimits_{cyc}ab(a-b)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{(a-b)(a-c)(b-c)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=-1.$$
    Id est,
    $$sum_{cyc}left|frac{a}{b-c}right|=sqrt{left(|x|+|y|+|z|right)^2}=sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}=$$
    $$=sqrt{(x+y+z)^2+2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}geqsqrt{2+2}=2.$$






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    Let $frac{a}{b-c}=x$, $frac{b}{c-a}=y$ and $frac{c}{a-b}=z$.



    Thus, $$xy+xz+yz=sum_{cyc}frac{ab}{(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{sumlimits_{cyc}ab(a-b)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=frac{(a-b)(a-c)(b-c)}{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}=-1.$$
    Id est,
    $$sum_{cyc}left|frac{a}{b-c}right|=sqrt{left(|x|+|y|+|z|right)^2}=sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}=$$
    $$=sqrt{(x+y+z)^2+2+2sumlimits_{cyc}|xy|}geqsqrt{2+2}=2.$$







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    Without loss of generality we can assume that $b$ and $c$ have the same sign. Then $|b|=|b-c|+|c|$. Also, $|c-a|le |c|+|a|$ and $|a-b| le |a|+|b-c|+|c|$. Therefore
    $$
    frac{|a|}{|b-c|}+frac{|b|}{|c-a|}+frac{|c|}{|a-b|} ge frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b-c|+|c|}{|c|+|a|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b-c|+|c|} = (*).$$



    Denote $x=|a|$, $y=|b-c|$, $z=|c|$. Then, by Schwarz and by $x^2+y^2 ge 2xy$, we get
    begin{align*}
    (*) & = frac{x}{y}+frac{y+z}{z+x}+frac{z}{x+y+z} \
    &ge frac{(x+(y+z)+z)^2}{xy+(y+z)(z+x)+z(x+y+z)} \
    &= frac{x^2+y^2+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &ge frac{2xy+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &=2.end{align*}






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    Without loss of generality we can assume that $b$ and $c$ have the same sign. Then $|b|=|b-c|+|c|$. Also, $|c-a|le |c|+|a|$ and $|a-b| le |a|+|b-c|+|c|$. Therefore
    $$
    frac{|a|}{|b-c|}+frac{|b|}{|c-a|}+frac{|c|}{|a-b|} ge frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b-c|+|c|}{|c|+|a|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b-c|+|c|} = (*).$$



    Denote $x=|a|$, $y=|b-c|$, $z=|c|$. Then, by Schwarz and by $x^2+y^2 ge 2xy$, we get
    begin{align*}
    (*) & = frac{x}{y}+frac{y+z}{z+x}+frac{z}{x+y+z} \
    &ge frac{(x+(y+z)+z)^2}{xy+(y+z)(z+x)+z(x+y+z)} \
    &= frac{x^2+y^2+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &ge frac{2xy+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &=2.end{align*}






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    Without loss of generality we can assume that $b$ and $c$ have the same sign. Then $|b|=|b-c|+|c|$. Also, $|c-a|le |c|+|a|$ and $|a-b| le |a|+|b-c|+|c|$. Therefore
    $$
    frac{|a|}{|b-c|}+frac{|b|}{|c-a|}+frac{|c|}{|a-b|} ge frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b-c|+|c|}{|c|+|a|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b-c|+|c|} = (*).$$



    Denote $x=|a|$, $y=|b-c|$, $z=|c|$. Then, by Schwarz and by $x^2+y^2 ge 2xy$, we get
    begin{align*}
    (*) & = frac{x}{y}+frac{y+z}{z+x}+frac{z}{x+y+z} \
    &ge frac{(x+(y+z)+z)^2}{xy+(y+z)(z+x)+z(x+y+z)} \
    &= frac{x^2+y^2+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &ge frac{2xy+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &=2.end{align*}






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    Without loss of generality we can assume that $b$ and $c$ have the same sign. Then $|b|=|b-c|+|c|$. Also, $|c-a|le |c|+|a|$ and $|a-b| le |a|+|b-c|+|c|$. Therefore
    $$
    frac{|a|}{|b-c|}+frac{|b|}{|c-a|}+frac{|c|}{|a-b|} ge frac{|a|}{|b-c|} + frac{|b-c|+|c|}{|c|+|a|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b-c|+|c|} = (*).$$



    Denote $x=|a|$, $y=|b-c|$, $z=|c|$. Then, by Schwarz and by $x^2+y^2 ge 2xy$, we get
    begin{align*}
    (*) & = frac{x}{y}+frac{y+z}{z+x}+frac{z}{x+y+z} \
    &ge frac{(x+(y+z)+z)^2}{xy+(y+z)(z+x)+z(x+y+z)} \
    &= frac{x^2+y^2+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &ge frac{2xy+4z^2+2xy+4yz+4zx}{2z^2+2xy+2yz+2zx} \
    &=2.end{align*}







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    Notice that $|x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ implies that:
    $$frac{|z|}{|x-y|} geq frac{|z|}{|x|+|y|}.$$
    Then:



    $$S geq frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|} + frac{|b|}{|a|+|c|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} = \
    =frac{A}{B+C} + frac{B}{A+C} + frac{C}{A+B},$$

    where I set $A = |a|, B = |b|$ and $C= |c|$ for the sake of simplicity.



    Multiplying and dividing numerators and denominators by $(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)$, we get that:



    $$S geq frac{A^3+A^2B + A^2 C + AB^2 + 3ABC + AC^2 + B^3 + B^2C + BC^2 + C^3 }{(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)}.$$



    Notice that the denominator can be expanded as follows:



    $$D = (B+C)(A+C)(A+B) = A^2B + A^2C + AB^2 + 2ABC + AC^2 + B^2C + BC^2.$$



    Therefore, the numerator can be rewritten as:



    $$ N= D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC.$$



    In other words:



    $$S geq frac{D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC}{D} > frac{D}{D} = 1.$$






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    • How does this prove that $S ge 2$?
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    • @timon92 It doesn't. This is my attempt. If I can find a better lower bound, then I will post it.
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      Fair enough. Also, using the so-called Nesbitt inequality one can get better bound: $Sge frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|}+frac{|b|}{|c|+|a|}+frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} ge frac 32.$
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    Notice that $|x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ implies that:
    $$frac{|z|}{|x-y|} geq frac{|z|}{|x|+|y|}.$$
    Then:



    $$S geq frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|} + frac{|b|}{|a|+|c|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} = \
    =frac{A}{B+C} + frac{B}{A+C} + frac{C}{A+B},$$

    where I set $A = |a|, B = |b|$ and $C= |c|$ for the sake of simplicity.



    Multiplying and dividing numerators and denominators by $(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)$, we get that:



    $$S geq frac{A^3+A^2B + A^2 C + AB^2 + 3ABC + AC^2 + B^3 + B^2C + BC^2 + C^3 }{(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)}.$$



    Notice that the denominator can be expanded as follows:



    $$D = (B+C)(A+C)(A+B) = A^2B + A^2C + AB^2 + 2ABC + AC^2 + B^2C + BC^2.$$



    Therefore, the numerator can be rewritten as:



    $$ N= D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC.$$



    In other words:



    $$S geq frac{D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC}{D} > frac{D}{D} = 1.$$






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      Fair enough. Also, using the so-called Nesbitt inequality one can get better bound: $Sge frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|}+frac{|b|}{|c|+|a|}+frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} ge frac 32.$
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      Nov 19 at 18:16













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    Notice that $|x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ implies that:
    $$frac{|z|}{|x-y|} geq frac{|z|}{|x|+|y|}.$$
    Then:



    $$S geq frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|} + frac{|b|}{|a|+|c|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} = \
    =frac{A}{B+C} + frac{B}{A+C} + frac{C}{A+B},$$

    where I set $A = |a|, B = |b|$ and $C= |c|$ for the sake of simplicity.



    Multiplying and dividing numerators and denominators by $(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)$, we get that:



    $$S geq frac{A^3+A^2B + A^2 C + AB^2 + 3ABC + AC^2 + B^3 + B^2C + BC^2 + C^3 }{(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)}.$$



    Notice that the denominator can be expanded as follows:



    $$D = (B+C)(A+C)(A+B) = A^2B + A^2C + AB^2 + 2ABC + AC^2 + B^2C + BC^2.$$



    Therefore, the numerator can be rewritten as:



    $$ N= D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC.$$



    In other words:



    $$S geq frac{D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC}{D} > frac{D}{D} = 1.$$






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    Notice that $|x-y|leq |x|+|y|$ implies that:
    $$frac{|z|}{|x-y|} geq frac{|z|}{|x|+|y|}.$$
    Then:



    $$S geq frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|} + frac{|b|}{|a|+|c|} + frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} = \
    =frac{A}{B+C} + frac{B}{A+C} + frac{C}{A+B},$$

    where I set $A = |a|, B = |b|$ and $C= |c|$ for the sake of simplicity.



    Multiplying and dividing numerators and denominators by $(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)$, we get that:



    $$S geq frac{A^3+A^2B + A^2 C + AB^2 + 3ABC + AC^2 + B^3 + B^2C + BC^2 + C^3 }{(B+C)(A+C)(A+B)}.$$



    Notice that the denominator can be expanded as follows:



    $$D = (B+C)(A+C)(A+B) = A^2B + A^2C + AB^2 + 2ABC + AC^2 + B^2C + BC^2.$$



    Therefore, the numerator can be rewritten as:



    $$ N= D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC.$$



    In other words:



    $$S geq frac{D + A^3 +B^3 + C^3 + ABC}{D} > frac{D}{D} = 1.$$







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    • How does this prove that $S ge 2$?
      – timon92
      Nov 19 at 18:09










    • @timon92 It doesn't. This is my attempt. If I can find a better lower bound, then I will post it.
      – the_candyman
      Nov 19 at 18:11






    • 1




      Fair enough. Also, using the so-called Nesbitt inequality one can get better bound: $Sge frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|}+frac{|b|}{|c|+|a|}+frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} ge frac 32.$
      – timon92
      Nov 19 at 18:16


















    • How does this prove that $S ge 2$?
      – timon92
      Nov 19 at 18:09










    • @timon92 It doesn't. This is my attempt. If I can find a better lower bound, then I will post it.
      – the_candyman
      Nov 19 at 18:11






    • 1




      Fair enough. Also, using the so-called Nesbitt inequality one can get better bound: $Sge frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|}+frac{|b|}{|c|+|a|}+frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} ge frac 32.$
      – timon92
      Nov 19 at 18:16
















    How does this prove that $S ge 2$?
    – timon92
    Nov 19 at 18:09




    How does this prove that $S ge 2$?
    – timon92
    Nov 19 at 18:09












    @timon92 It doesn't. This is my attempt. If I can find a better lower bound, then I will post it.
    – the_candyman
    Nov 19 at 18:11




    @timon92 It doesn't. This is my attempt. If I can find a better lower bound, then I will post it.
    – the_candyman
    Nov 19 at 18:11




    1




    1




    Fair enough. Also, using the so-called Nesbitt inequality one can get better bound: $Sge frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|}+frac{|b|}{|c|+|a|}+frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} ge frac 32.$
    – timon92
    Nov 19 at 18:16




    Fair enough. Also, using the so-called Nesbitt inequality one can get better bound: $Sge frac{|a|}{|b|+|c|}+frac{|b|}{|c|+|a|}+frac{|c|}{|a|+|b|} ge frac 32.$
    – timon92
    Nov 19 at 18:16










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    I tried to give a simple proof by reducing to simpler and simpler cases, all the time doing "nothing", and the final rephrasing is simple, too.




    • First of all, let us note that the (LHS of the) given inequality is invariated by permutations of the letters / variables $a,b,c$. So we may and do assume $ale ble c$.


    • Let $s,t>0$ be then such that $b=a+s$, $c=b+t=a+s+t$.


    • Replacing the initial $a,b,c$ with $-c,-b,-a$, we may and do assume $bge 0$.


    • The given inequality can now be rewritten equivalently:
      $$
      S=
      frac{|a|}t +
      frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
      frac{|a+s+t|}s
      ge 2 .
      $$


    • If $a$ is $ge0$, then all three numbers $a,b,c$ are $ge 0$, and we can write
      $$
      begin{aligned}
      S
      &= frac{|a|}t +
      frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
      frac{|a+s+t|}s
      \
      &ge
      frac{0}t +
      frac{s}{s+t} +
      frac{s+t}s
      %ge 2sqrt{
      %frac{s}{s+t} cdot
      %frac{s+t}s}
      ge2 ,qquad(age 0)
      end{aligned}
      $$

      and the last $ge$ (AM-GM) is moreover $>0$ (because $tne 0$). The case with $a < b < c=a+s+tle 0$ is similar.


    • So the single interesting case is the one with $a<0le b<c$ . We rewrite the inequality in the form:
      $$
      frac{|b-s|}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
      $$

      Here, $b$ is allowed to vary between $0$ and $s$, and the first modulus is $|a|=-a=-(b-s)=s-b$, so we have to show:
      $$
      frac{s-b}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
      $$

      But this is a linear (ergo convex) function in $b$, so the inequality has to be tested only for the possible extremities, $b=0$ and $b=s$. For $b=0$ we obtain $frac st+frac tsge 2$, true, with equality for $s=t$. For $b=s$ we get $frac s{s+t}+frac {s+t}sge 2$, an inequality of the same shape, but we cannot get equality. (For intermediate values of $b$ we get intermediate values of the expression.)







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      I tried to give a simple proof by reducing to simpler and simpler cases, all the time doing "nothing", and the final rephrasing is simple, too.




      • First of all, let us note that the (LHS of the) given inequality is invariated by permutations of the letters / variables $a,b,c$. So we may and do assume $ale ble c$.


      • Let $s,t>0$ be then such that $b=a+s$, $c=b+t=a+s+t$.


      • Replacing the initial $a,b,c$ with $-c,-b,-a$, we may and do assume $bge 0$.


      • The given inequality can now be rewritten equivalently:
        $$
        S=
        frac{|a|}t +
        frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
        frac{|a+s+t|}s
        ge 2 .
        $$


      • If $a$ is $ge0$, then all three numbers $a,b,c$ are $ge 0$, and we can write
        $$
        begin{aligned}
        S
        &= frac{|a|}t +
        frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
        frac{|a+s+t|}s
        \
        &ge
        frac{0}t +
        frac{s}{s+t} +
        frac{s+t}s
        %ge 2sqrt{
        %frac{s}{s+t} cdot
        %frac{s+t}s}
        ge2 ,qquad(age 0)
        end{aligned}
        $$

        and the last $ge$ (AM-GM) is moreover $>0$ (because $tne 0$). The case with $a < b < c=a+s+tle 0$ is similar.


      • So the single interesting case is the one with $a<0le b<c$ . We rewrite the inequality in the form:
        $$
        frac{|b-s|}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
        $$

        Here, $b$ is allowed to vary between $0$ and $s$, and the first modulus is $|a|=-a=-(b-s)=s-b$, so we have to show:
        $$
        frac{s-b}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
        $$

        But this is a linear (ergo convex) function in $b$, so the inequality has to be tested only for the possible extremities, $b=0$ and $b=s$. For $b=0$ we obtain $frac st+frac tsge 2$, true, with equality for $s=t$. For $b=s$ we get $frac s{s+t}+frac {s+t}sge 2$, an inequality of the same shape, but we cannot get equality. (For intermediate values of $b$ we get intermediate values of the expression.)







      share|cite|improve this answer























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        down vote










        up vote
        0
        down vote









        I tried to give a simple proof by reducing to simpler and simpler cases, all the time doing "nothing", and the final rephrasing is simple, too.




        • First of all, let us note that the (LHS of the) given inequality is invariated by permutations of the letters / variables $a,b,c$. So we may and do assume $ale ble c$.


        • Let $s,t>0$ be then such that $b=a+s$, $c=b+t=a+s+t$.


        • Replacing the initial $a,b,c$ with $-c,-b,-a$, we may and do assume $bge 0$.


        • The given inequality can now be rewritten equivalently:
          $$
          S=
          frac{|a|}t +
          frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
          frac{|a+s+t|}s
          ge 2 .
          $$


        • If $a$ is $ge0$, then all three numbers $a,b,c$ are $ge 0$, and we can write
          $$
          begin{aligned}
          S
          &= frac{|a|}t +
          frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
          frac{|a+s+t|}s
          \
          &ge
          frac{0}t +
          frac{s}{s+t} +
          frac{s+t}s
          %ge 2sqrt{
          %frac{s}{s+t} cdot
          %frac{s+t}s}
          ge2 ,qquad(age 0)
          end{aligned}
          $$

          and the last $ge$ (AM-GM) is moreover $>0$ (because $tne 0$). The case with $a < b < c=a+s+tle 0$ is similar.


        • So the single interesting case is the one with $a<0le b<c$ . We rewrite the inequality in the form:
          $$
          frac{|b-s|}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
          $$

          Here, $b$ is allowed to vary between $0$ and $s$, and the first modulus is $|a|=-a=-(b-s)=s-b$, so we have to show:
          $$
          frac{s-b}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
          $$

          But this is a linear (ergo convex) function in $b$, so the inequality has to be tested only for the possible extremities, $b=0$ and $b=s$. For $b=0$ we obtain $frac st+frac tsge 2$, true, with equality for $s=t$. For $b=s$ we get $frac s{s+t}+frac {s+t}sge 2$, an inequality of the same shape, but we cannot get equality. (For intermediate values of $b$ we get intermediate values of the expression.)







        share|cite|improve this answer












        I tried to give a simple proof by reducing to simpler and simpler cases, all the time doing "nothing", and the final rephrasing is simple, too.




        • First of all, let us note that the (LHS of the) given inequality is invariated by permutations of the letters / variables $a,b,c$. So we may and do assume $ale ble c$.


        • Let $s,t>0$ be then such that $b=a+s$, $c=b+t=a+s+t$.


        • Replacing the initial $a,b,c$ with $-c,-b,-a$, we may and do assume $bge 0$.


        • The given inequality can now be rewritten equivalently:
          $$
          S=
          frac{|a|}t +
          frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
          frac{|a+s+t|}s
          ge 2 .
          $$


        • If $a$ is $ge0$, then all three numbers $a,b,c$ are $ge 0$, and we can write
          $$
          begin{aligned}
          S
          &= frac{|a|}t +
          frac{|a+s|}{s+t} +
          frac{|a+s+t|}s
          \
          &ge
          frac{0}t +
          frac{s}{s+t} +
          frac{s+t}s
          %ge 2sqrt{
          %frac{s}{s+t} cdot
          %frac{s+t}s}
          ge2 ,qquad(age 0)
          end{aligned}
          $$

          and the last $ge$ (AM-GM) is moreover $>0$ (because $tne 0$). The case with $a < b < c=a+s+tle 0$ is similar.


        • So the single interesting case is the one with $a<0le b<c$ . We rewrite the inequality in the form:
          $$
          frac{|b-s|}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
          $$

          Here, $b$ is allowed to vary between $0$ and $s$, and the first modulus is $|a|=-a=-(b-s)=s-b$, so we have to show:
          $$
          frac{s-b}t+frac b{s+t}+frac{b+t}sge 2 .
          $$

          But this is a linear (ergo convex) function in $b$, so the inequality has to be tested only for the possible extremities, $b=0$ and $b=s$. For $b=0$ we obtain $frac st+frac tsge 2$, true, with equality for $s=t$. For $b=s$ we get $frac s{s+t}+frac {s+t}sge 2$, an inequality of the same shape, but we cannot get equality. (For intermediate values of $b$ we get intermediate values of the expression.)








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