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Given two (algebraic) varieties $X,Y$ (not necessarily irreducible) and $D,E$ dense subsets of $X$ and $Y$ respectively, I've read something saying that the product $D times E$ is dense in $X times Y$ (given the Zariski topology of course).



Is it true ? And how do you prove it ?



I've tried to look for it in different books but I couldn't find anything.



Thank you !










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    Given two (algebraic) varieties $X,Y$ (not necessarily irreducible) and $D,E$ dense subsets of $X$ and $Y$ respectively, I've read something saying that the product $D times E$ is dense in $X times Y$ (given the Zariski topology of course).



    Is it true ? And how do you prove it ?



    I've tried to look for it in different books but I couldn't find anything.



    Thank you !










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      Given two (algebraic) varieties $X,Y$ (not necessarily irreducible) and $D,E$ dense subsets of $X$ and $Y$ respectively, I've read something saying that the product $D times E$ is dense in $X times Y$ (given the Zariski topology of course).



      Is it true ? And how do you prove it ?



      I've tried to look for it in different books but I couldn't find anything.



      Thank you !










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      Given two (algebraic) varieties $X,Y$ (not necessarily irreducible) and $D,E$ dense subsets of $X$ and $Y$ respectively, I've read something saying that the product $D times E$ is dense in $X times Y$ (given the Zariski topology of course).



      Is it true ? And how do you prove it ?



      I've tried to look for it in different books but I couldn't find anything.



      Thank you !







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          Suppose $X,Y$ are varieties over an algebraically closed field $k$.
          Claim

          If $Dsubset X$ and $ Esubset Y$ are dense subsets, then $Dtimes Esubset Xtimes Y$ is dense too.
          Proof

          Let $Z$ be the closure of $Dtimes E$ in $Xtimes Y$.

          Fix a poind $d_0in D$ and consider the closed subvariety $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Xtimes Y$.

          The subset $lbrace d_0rbrace times E subset lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ has closure $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y ;$ [ because $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ is isomorphic to $Y$ and $E$ is dense in $Y$]

          so that $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z $ . We have proved the



          Partial Result:

          For all $d_0in D $ we have $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z$



          End of proof:

          Consider an arbitrary $yin Y$ .

          For any $din D$ we know, thanks to the Partial Result, that $(d,y)in Z$. Hence $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since the closure of $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace $ is $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace $ [ because $X times lbrace y rbrace $ is isomorphic to $X$ and $D$ is dense in $X$], we have proved that $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since $yin Y$ was arbitrary, this implies that $Z=Xtimes Y $ i.e. that $Dtimes E$ is dense in $Xtimes Y $






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          • Thank you a lot Georges (and also Qi). I almost had all what was needed to prove the result, but I couldn't put it into good order. I'm glad I learnt something :)
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          Suppose $X,Y$ are varieties over an algebraically closed field $k$.
          Claim

          If $Dsubset X$ and $ Esubset Y$ are dense subsets, then $Dtimes Esubset Xtimes Y$ is dense too.
          Proof

          Let $Z$ be the closure of $Dtimes E$ in $Xtimes Y$.

          Fix a poind $d_0in D$ and consider the closed subvariety $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Xtimes Y$.

          The subset $lbrace d_0rbrace times E subset lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ has closure $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y ;$ [ because $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ is isomorphic to $Y$ and $E$ is dense in $Y$]

          so that $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z $ . We have proved the



          Partial Result:

          For all $d_0in D $ we have $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z$



          End of proof:

          Consider an arbitrary $yin Y$ .

          For any $din D$ we know, thanks to the Partial Result, that $(d,y)in Z$. Hence $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since the closure of $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace $ is $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace $ [ because $X times lbrace y rbrace $ is isomorphic to $X$ and $D$ is dense in $X$], we have proved that $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since $yin Y$ was arbitrary, this implies that $Z=Xtimes Y $ i.e. that $Dtimes E$ is dense in $Xtimes Y $






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          • Thank you a lot Georges (and also Qi). I almost had all what was needed to prove the result, but I couldn't put it into good order. I'm glad I learnt something :)
            – ng_th
            Dec 13 '11 at 9:18















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          Suppose $X,Y$ are varieties over an algebraically closed field $k$.
          Claim

          If $Dsubset X$ and $ Esubset Y$ are dense subsets, then $Dtimes Esubset Xtimes Y$ is dense too.
          Proof

          Let $Z$ be the closure of $Dtimes E$ in $Xtimes Y$.

          Fix a poind $d_0in D$ and consider the closed subvariety $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Xtimes Y$.

          The subset $lbrace d_0rbrace times E subset lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ has closure $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y ;$ [ because $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ is isomorphic to $Y$ and $E$ is dense in $Y$]

          so that $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z $ . We have proved the



          Partial Result:

          For all $d_0in D $ we have $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z$



          End of proof:

          Consider an arbitrary $yin Y$ .

          For any $din D$ we know, thanks to the Partial Result, that $(d,y)in Z$. Hence $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since the closure of $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace $ is $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace $ [ because $X times lbrace y rbrace $ is isomorphic to $X$ and $D$ is dense in $X$], we have proved that $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since $yin Y$ was arbitrary, this implies that $Z=Xtimes Y $ i.e. that $Dtimes E$ is dense in $Xtimes Y $






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          • Thank you a lot Georges (and also Qi). I almost had all what was needed to prove the result, but I couldn't put it into good order. I'm glad I learnt something :)
            – ng_th
            Dec 13 '11 at 9:18













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          Suppose $X,Y$ are varieties over an algebraically closed field $k$.
          Claim

          If $Dsubset X$ and $ Esubset Y$ are dense subsets, then $Dtimes Esubset Xtimes Y$ is dense too.
          Proof

          Let $Z$ be the closure of $Dtimes E$ in $Xtimes Y$.

          Fix a poind $d_0in D$ and consider the closed subvariety $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Xtimes Y$.

          The subset $lbrace d_0rbrace times E subset lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ has closure $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y ;$ [ because $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ is isomorphic to $Y$ and $E$ is dense in $Y$]

          so that $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z $ . We have proved the



          Partial Result:

          For all $d_0in D $ we have $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z$



          End of proof:

          Consider an arbitrary $yin Y$ .

          For any $din D$ we know, thanks to the Partial Result, that $(d,y)in Z$. Hence $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since the closure of $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace $ is $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace $ [ because $X times lbrace y rbrace $ is isomorphic to $X$ and $D$ is dense in $X$], we have proved that $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since $yin Y$ was arbitrary, this implies that $Z=Xtimes Y $ i.e. that $Dtimes E$ is dense in $Xtimes Y $






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          Suppose $X,Y$ are varieties over an algebraically closed field $k$.
          Claim

          If $Dsubset X$ and $ Esubset Y$ are dense subsets, then $Dtimes Esubset Xtimes Y$ is dense too.
          Proof

          Let $Z$ be the closure of $Dtimes E$ in $Xtimes Y$.

          Fix a poind $d_0in D$ and consider the closed subvariety $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Xtimes Y$.

          The subset $lbrace d_0rbrace times E subset lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ has closure $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y ;$ [ because $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y$ is isomorphic to $Y$ and $E$ is dense in $Y$]

          so that $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z $ . We have proved the



          Partial Result:

          For all $d_0in D $ we have $lbrace d_0rbrace times Y subset Z$



          End of proof:

          Consider an arbitrary $yin Y$ .

          For any $din D$ we know, thanks to the Partial Result, that $(d,y)in Z$. Hence $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since the closure of $Dtimes lbrace y rbrace $ is $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace $ [ because $X times lbrace y rbrace $ is isomorphic to $X$ and $D$ is dense in $X$], we have proved that $Xtimes lbrace y rbrace subset Z$.

          Since $yin Y$ was arbitrary, this implies that $Z=Xtimes Y $ i.e. that $Dtimes E$ is dense in $Xtimes Y $







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          answered Dec 12 '11 at 22:32









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          • Thank you a lot Georges (and also Qi). I almost had all what was needed to prove the result, but I couldn't put it into good order. I'm glad I learnt something :)
            – ng_th
            Dec 13 '11 at 9:18


















          • Thank you a lot Georges (and also Qi). I almost had all what was needed to prove the result, but I couldn't put it into good order. I'm glad I learnt something :)
            – ng_th
            Dec 13 '11 at 9:18
















          Thank you a lot Georges (and also Qi). I almost had all what was needed to prove the result, but I couldn't put it into good order. I'm glad I learnt something :)
          – ng_th
          Dec 13 '11 at 9:18




          Thank you a lot Georges (and also Qi). I almost had all what was needed to prove the result, but I couldn't put it into good order. I'm glad I learnt something :)
          – ng_th
          Dec 13 '11 at 9:18


















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