Easier Ways to Find General Solutions of Higher Dimensional ODE's











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We have often used in the 2x2 case the Jordan form of the matrix A (2x2) in the system X' = AX, which yields a nice solution with standard basis vectors, which we transpose by the transformation matrix T to get back the original ODE's general solution (assuming invertible T).



Now with 3x3 and above, calculating the inverse matrix becomes prohibitively tedious, and I wanted to see if there is a faster way when there are repeated eigenvalues.



Example: A = ((0,0,1),(0,1,0),(1,0,0)), then the eigenvalues are -1, 1, 1, and clearly because x_2' = x_2 (the y component), x_2(t) = c_2 * e^t. I'm not sure what to do next; I know often we "guess" a solution for the components and check, but I'm stuck here...










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  • so then, is the solution just the same format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues? i.e. ae^-t(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0) ?
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We have often used in the 2x2 case the Jordan form of the matrix A (2x2) in the system X' = AX, which yields a nice solution with standard basis vectors, which we transpose by the transformation matrix T to get back the original ODE's general solution (assuming invertible T).



Now with 3x3 and above, calculating the inverse matrix becomes prohibitively tedious, and I wanted to see if there is a faster way when there are repeated eigenvalues.



Example: A = ((0,0,1),(0,1,0),(1,0,0)), then the eigenvalues are -1, 1, 1, and clearly because x_2' = x_2 (the y component), x_2(t) = c_2 * e^t. I'm not sure what to do next; I know often we "guess" a solution for the components and check, but I'm stuck here...










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  • so then, is the solution just the same format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues? i.e. ae^-t(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0) ?
    – MathGuyForLife
    Nov 25 at 5:22













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We have often used in the 2x2 case the Jordan form of the matrix A (2x2) in the system X' = AX, which yields a nice solution with standard basis vectors, which we transpose by the transformation matrix T to get back the original ODE's general solution (assuming invertible T).



Now with 3x3 and above, calculating the inverse matrix becomes prohibitively tedious, and I wanted to see if there is a faster way when there are repeated eigenvalues.



Example: A = ((0,0,1),(0,1,0),(1,0,0)), then the eigenvalues are -1, 1, 1, and clearly because x_2' = x_2 (the y component), x_2(t) = c_2 * e^t. I'm not sure what to do next; I know often we "guess" a solution for the components and check, but I'm stuck here...










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We have often used in the 2x2 case the Jordan form of the matrix A (2x2) in the system X' = AX, which yields a nice solution with standard basis vectors, which we transpose by the transformation matrix T to get back the original ODE's general solution (assuming invertible T).



Now with 3x3 and above, calculating the inverse matrix becomes prohibitively tedious, and I wanted to see if there is a faster way when there are repeated eigenvalues.



Example: A = ((0,0,1),(0,1,0),(1,0,0)), then the eigenvalues are -1, 1, 1, and clearly because x_2' = x_2 (the y component), x_2(t) = c_2 * e^t. I'm not sure what to do next; I know often we "guess" a solution for the components and check, but I'm stuck here...







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  • so then, is the solution just the same format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues? i.e. ae^-t(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0) ?
    – MathGuyForLife
    Nov 25 at 5:22


















  • so then, is the solution just the same format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues? i.e. ae^-t(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0) ?
    – MathGuyForLife
    Nov 25 at 5:22
















so then, is the solution just the same format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues? i.e. ae^-t(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0) ?
– MathGuyForLife
Nov 25 at 5:22




so then, is the solution just the same format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues? i.e. ae^-t(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0) ?
– MathGuyForLife
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I'll just post what Moo explained above. The solution is similar format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues, because the eigenvectors are linearly independent.



$$ae^{-t}(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0)$$






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    Thank you, edited.
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I'll just post what Moo explained above. The solution is similar format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues, because the eigenvectors are linearly independent.



$$ae^{-t}(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0)$$






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I'll just post what Moo explained above. The solution is similar format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues, because the eigenvectors are linearly independent.



$$ae^{-t}(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0)$$






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I'll just post what Moo explained above. The solution is similar format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues, because the eigenvectors are linearly independent.



$$ae^{-t}(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0)$$






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I'll just post what Moo explained above. The solution is similar format as in the case of 3 distinct eigenvalues, because the eigenvectors are linearly independent.



$$ae^{-t}(-1,0,1)+be^t(1,0,1)+ce^t(0,1,0)$$







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