How can we show that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ strongly separates points?











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Let $C_b(mathbb R)$ denote the set of bounded continuous function from $mathbb R$ to $mathbb R$. We say that $Msubseteq C_b(mathbb R)$





  1. separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall x,yinmathbb R:xne yRightarrowexists fin M:f(x)ne f(y)tag1$$


  2. strongly separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall xinmathbb R,delta>0:exists kinmathbb N,left{f_1,ldots,f_kright}subseteq M:inf_{y:::d(x,y):ge:delta}max_{1le ile k}|f_i(x)-f_i(y)|>0tag2$$



How can we show that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ strongly separates points?




It's clear that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ separates points.










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  • Do you mean $C_b^infty$ in the places you've written $C_c^infty$?
    – Trevor Gunn
    Nov 28 at 16:53










  • Do you mean $f_i$ instead of $h_i$?
    – Paul Frost
    Nov 28 at 16:55










  • @PaulFrost Sorry, fixed that.
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    Nov 28 at 16:56










  • @TrevorGunn No, I mean $C_c^infty$.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 16:56






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    Cant you just take a single $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$, $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$? Then you would have $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.
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    Nov 28 at 16:58

















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Let $C_b(mathbb R)$ denote the set of bounded continuous function from $mathbb R$ to $mathbb R$. We say that $Msubseteq C_b(mathbb R)$





  1. separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall x,yinmathbb R:xne yRightarrowexists fin M:f(x)ne f(y)tag1$$


  2. strongly separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall xinmathbb R,delta>0:exists kinmathbb N,left{f_1,ldots,f_kright}subseteq M:inf_{y:::d(x,y):ge:delta}max_{1le ile k}|f_i(x)-f_i(y)|>0tag2$$



How can we show that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ strongly separates points?




It's clear that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ separates points.










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  • Do you mean $C_b^infty$ in the places you've written $C_c^infty$?
    – Trevor Gunn
    Nov 28 at 16:53










  • Do you mean $f_i$ instead of $h_i$?
    – Paul Frost
    Nov 28 at 16:55










  • @PaulFrost Sorry, fixed that.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 16:56










  • @TrevorGunn No, I mean $C_c^infty$.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 16:56






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    Cant you just take a single $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$, $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$? Then you would have $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.
    – Federico
    Nov 28 at 16:58















up vote
1
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up vote
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Let $C_b(mathbb R)$ denote the set of bounded continuous function from $mathbb R$ to $mathbb R$. We say that $Msubseteq C_b(mathbb R)$





  1. separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall x,yinmathbb R:xne yRightarrowexists fin M:f(x)ne f(y)tag1$$


  2. strongly separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall xinmathbb R,delta>0:exists kinmathbb N,left{f_1,ldots,f_kright}subseteq M:inf_{y:::d(x,y):ge:delta}max_{1le ile k}|f_i(x)-f_i(y)|>0tag2$$



How can we show that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ strongly separates points?




It's clear that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ separates points.










share|cite|improve this question















Let $C_b(mathbb R)$ denote the set of bounded continuous function from $mathbb R$ to $mathbb R$. We say that $Msubseteq C_b(mathbb R)$





  1. separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall x,yinmathbb R:xne yRightarrowexists fin M:f(x)ne f(y)tag1$$


  2. strongly separates points $:Leftrightarrow$ $$forall xinmathbb R,delta>0:exists kinmathbb N,left{f_1,ldots,f_kright}subseteq M:inf_{y:::d(x,y):ge:delta}max_{1le ile k}|f_i(x)-f_i(y)|>0tag2$$



How can we show that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ strongly separates points?




It's clear that $C_c^infty(mathbb R)$ separates points.







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  • Do you mean $C_b^infty$ in the places you've written $C_c^infty$?
    – Trevor Gunn
    Nov 28 at 16:53










  • Do you mean $f_i$ instead of $h_i$?
    – Paul Frost
    Nov 28 at 16:55










  • @PaulFrost Sorry, fixed that.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 16:56










  • @TrevorGunn No, I mean $C_c^infty$.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 16:56






  • 2




    Cant you just take a single $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$, $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$? Then you would have $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.
    – Federico
    Nov 28 at 16:58




















  • Do you mean $C_b^infty$ in the places you've written $C_c^infty$?
    – Trevor Gunn
    Nov 28 at 16:53










  • Do you mean $f_i$ instead of $h_i$?
    – Paul Frost
    Nov 28 at 16:55










  • @PaulFrost Sorry, fixed that.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 16:56










  • @TrevorGunn No, I mean $C_c^infty$.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 16:56






  • 2




    Cant you just take a single $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$, $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$? Then you would have $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.
    – Federico
    Nov 28 at 16:58


















Do you mean $C_b^infty$ in the places you've written $C_c^infty$?
– Trevor Gunn
Nov 28 at 16:53




Do you mean $C_b^infty$ in the places you've written $C_c^infty$?
– Trevor Gunn
Nov 28 at 16:53












Do you mean $f_i$ instead of $h_i$?
– Paul Frost
Nov 28 at 16:55




Do you mean $f_i$ instead of $h_i$?
– Paul Frost
Nov 28 at 16:55












@PaulFrost Sorry, fixed that.
– 0xbadf00d
Nov 28 at 16:56




@PaulFrost Sorry, fixed that.
– 0xbadf00d
Nov 28 at 16:56












@TrevorGunn No, I mean $C_c^infty$.
– 0xbadf00d
Nov 28 at 16:56




@TrevorGunn No, I mean $C_c^infty$.
– 0xbadf00d
Nov 28 at 16:56




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Cant you just take a single $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$, $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$? Then you would have $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.
– Federico
Nov 28 at 16:58






Cant you just take a single $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$, $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$? Then you would have $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.
– Federico
Nov 28 at 16:58












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Given $xinmathbb R$ and $delta>0$, take a single function $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$ and $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$.



Then $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.






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  • Oops, way to simple.
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  • Ah those lucky days when we can actually solve something! So satisfying... :-)
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    Nov 28 at 17:11











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Given $xinmathbb R$ and $delta>0$, take a single function $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$ and $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$.



Then $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.






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  • Oops, way to simple.
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  • Ah those lucky days when we can actually solve something! So satisfying... :-)
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Given $xinmathbb R$ and $delta>0$, take a single function $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$ and $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$.



Then $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.






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  • Oops, way to simple.
    – 0xbadf00d
    Nov 28 at 17:10










  • Ah those lucky days when we can actually solve something! So satisfying... :-)
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    Nov 28 at 17:11













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Given $xinmathbb R$ and $delta>0$, take a single function $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$ and $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$.



Then $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.






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Given $xinmathbb R$ and $delta>0$, take a single function $fin C^infty_c(mathbb R)$ with $f(x)=1$ and $mathrm{supp}(f)subset B(x,delta)$.



Then $f(x)-f(y)=1$ for $d(x,y)geqdelta$.







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  • Oops, way to simple.
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  • Ah those lucky days when we can actually solve something! So satisfying... :-)
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  • Oops, way to simple.
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    Nov 28 at 17:10










  • Ah those lucky days when we can actually solve something! So satisfying... :-)
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Oops, way to simple.
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Oops, way to simple.
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Ah those lucky days when we can actually solve something! So satisfying... :-)
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Ah those lucky days when we can actually solve something! So satisfying... :-)
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