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  • Welcome to MSE! It'll be helpful if you provide some description of what you've tried so far, so that people can clearly see your effort. This will also allow them to figure out where you are stuck so that they can tailor their advice.
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    Dec 1 at 2:16










  • Why not plug in a few values for $beta$ and see what you learn?
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    Dec 1 at 3:25










  • thanks for the help thats might be is a good idea
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  • Welcome to MSE! It'll be helpful if you provide some description of what you've tried so far, so that people can clearly see your effort. This will also allow them to figure out where you are stuck so that they can tailor their advice.
    – platty
    Dec 1 at 2:16










  • Why not plug in a few values for $beta$ and see what you learn?
    – Michael Burr
    Dec 1 at 3:25










  • thanks for the help thats might be is a good idea
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:42




















  • Welcome to MSE! It'll be helpful if you provide some description of what you've tried so far, so that people can clearly see your effort. This will also allow them to figure out where you are stuck so that they can tailor their advice.
    – platty
    Dec 1 at 2:16










  • Why not plug in a few values for $beta$ and see what you learn?
    – Michael Burr
    Dec 1 at 3:25










  • thanks for the help thats might be is a good idea
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:42


















Welcome to MSE! It'll be helpful if you provide some description of what you've tried so far, so that people can clearly see your effort. This will also allow them to figure out where you are stuck so that they can tailor their advice.
– platty
Dec 1 at 2:16




Welcome to MSE! It'll be helpful if you provide some description of what you've tried so far, so that people can clearly see your effort. This will also allow them to figure out where you are stuck so that they can tailor their advice.
– platty
Dec 1 at 2:16












Why not plug in a few values for $beta$ and see what you learn?
– Michael Burr
Dec 1 at 3:25




Why not plug in a few values for $beta$ and see what you learn?
– Michael Burr
Dec 1 at 3:25












thanks for the help thats might be is a good idea
– green life
Dec 1 at 9:42






thanks for the help thats might be is a good idea
– green life
Dec 1 at 9:42












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I am unable to find the values of $alpha_1,alpha_2$ but I have a relation between them involving $beta$. All notations are same as defined in the question.



Firstly, I will use row operation in the given system of equations, as follows,



$$begin{bmatrix}3 & 5 & -4\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Clearly, $u=-1+4beta,v=2,w=3beta$



Applying $R_{12}(+1)$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 3 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1+b_2\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{1}(frac{1}{3})$,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{21}(+2)$ and $R_{31}-1$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & 0 & 4\ alpha_1&0 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2+frac{2}{3}(b_1+b_2)\-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}end{bmatrix}$$
Now by simple observation we get,
$$v=frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(1)\-u+4w=frac{2b_1+5b_2}{3}...(2)\alpha_1u+alpha_2w=-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(3)$$
Recalling the solutions we get,
$$u=-1+4beta...(4)\v=2...(5)\w=3beta...(6)$$
(1) and (4) $implies b_1+b_2=6...(7)$



(2), (4) and (6) $implies 9=2b_1+5b_2...(8)$



(7) & (8) $implies b_1=7$ and $b_2=1$. Finally by (3) we get,
$$-alpha_1+4alpha_1beta+3alpha_2beta=-frac{19}{3}$$



That's all I got. If anything wrong please let me know.






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  • thank you very much i appreciate your help
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:39










  • i will update you if anythings wrong but i need some time to check and try
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:52


















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1 Answer
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active

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active

oldest

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active

oldest

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I am unable to find the values of $alpha_1,alpha_2$ but I have a relation between them involving $beta$. All notations are same as defined in the question.



Firstly, I will use row operation in the given system of equations, as follows,



$$begin{bmatrix}3 & 5 & -4\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Clearly, $u=-1+4beta,v=2,w=3beta$



Applying $R_{12}(+1)$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 3 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1+b_2\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{1}(frac{1}{3})$,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{21}(+2)$ and $R_{31}-1$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & 0 & 4\ alpha_1&0 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2+frac{2}{3}(b_1+b_2)\-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}end{bmatrix}$$
Now by simple observation we get,
$$v=frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(1)\-u+4w=frac{2b_1+5b_2}{3}...(2)\alpha_1u+alpha_2w=-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(3)$$
Recalling the solutions we get,
$$u=-1+4beta...(4)\v=2...(5)\w=3beta...(6)$$
(1) and (4) $implies b_1+b_2=6...(7)$



(2), (4) and (6) $implies 9=2b_1+5b_2...(8)$



(7) & (8) $implies b_1=7$ and $b_2=1$. Finally by (3) we get,
$$-alpha_1+4alpha_1beta+3alpha_2beta=-frac{19}{3}$$



That's all I got. If anything wrong please let me know.






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  • thank you very much i appreciate your help
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:39










  • i will update you if anythings wrong but i need some time to check and try
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:52
















1














I am unable to find the values of $alpha_1,alpha_2$ but I have a relation between them involving $beta$. All notations are same as defined in the question.



Firstly, I will use row operation in the given system of equations, as follows,



$$begin{bmatrix}3 & 5 & -4\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Clearly, $u=-1+4beta,v=2,w=3beta$



Applying $R_{12}(+1)$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 3 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1+b_2\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{1}(frac{1}{3})$,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{21}(+2)$ and $R_{31}-1$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & 0 & 4\ alpha_1&0 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2+frac{2}{3}(b_1+b_2)\-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}end{bmatrix}$$
Now by simple observation we get,
$$v=frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(1)\-u+4w=frac{2b_1+5b_2}{3}...(2)\alpha_1u+alpha_2w=-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(3)$$
Recalling the solutions we get,
$$u=-1+4beta...(4)\v=2...(5)\w=3beta...(6)$$
(1) and (4) $implies b_1+b_2=6...(7)$



(2), (4) and (6) $implies 9=2b_1+5b_2...(8)$



(7) & (8) $implies b_1=7$ and $b_2=1$. Finally by (3) we get,
$$-alpha_1+4alpha_1beta+3alpha_2beta=-frac{19}{3}$$



That's all I got. If anything wrong please let me know.






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  • thank you very much i appreciate your help
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:39










  • i will update you if anythings wrong but i need some time to check and try
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:52














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I am unable to find the values of $alpha_1,alpha_2$ but I have a relation between them involving $beta$. All notations are same as defined in the question.



Firstly, I will use row operation in the given system of equations, as follows,



$$begin{bmatrix}3 & 5 & -4\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Clearly, $u=-1+4beta,v=2,w=3beta$



Applying $R_{12}(+1)$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 3 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1+b_2\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{1}(frac{1}{3})$,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{21}(+2)$ and $R_{31}-1$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & 0 & 4\ alpha_1&0 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2+frac{2}{3}(b_1+b_2)\-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}end{bmatrix}$$
Now by simple observation we get,
$$v=frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(1)\-u+4w=frac{2b_1+5b_2}{3}...(2)\alpha_1u+alpha_2w=-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(3)$$
Recalling the solutions we get,
$$u=-1+4beta...(4)\v=2...(5)\w=3beta...(6)$$
(1) and (4) $implies b_1+b_2=6...(7)$



(2), (4) and (6) $implies 9=2b_1+5b_2...(8)$



(7) & (8) $implies b_1=7$ and $b_2=1$. Finally by (3) we get,
$$-alpha_1+4alpha_1beta+3alpha_2beta=-frac{19}{3}$$



That's all I got. If anything wrong please let me know.






share|cite|improve this answer












I am unable to find the values of $alpha_1,alpha_2$ but I have a relation between them involving $beta$. All notations are same as defined in the question.



Firstly, I will use row operation in the given system of equations, as follows,



$$begin{bmatrix}3 & 5 & -4\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Clearly, $u=-1+4beta,v=2,w=3beta$



Applying $R_{12}(+1)$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 3 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}b_1+b_2\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{1}(frac{1}{3})$,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & -2 & 4\ alpha_1&1 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2\-4end{bmatrix}$$
Now, $R_{21}(+2)$ and $R_{31}-1$ we get,
$$begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 & 0\ -3 & 0 & 4\ alpha_1&0 & alpha_2end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix}u\v\wend{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix}frac{b_1+b_2}{3}\b_2+frac{2}{3}(b_1+b_2)\-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}end{bmatrix}$$
Now by simple observation we get,
$$v=frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(1)\-u+4w=frac{2b_1+5b_2}{3}...(2)\alpha_1u+alpha_2w=-4-frac{b_1+b_2}{3}...(3)$$
Recalling the solutions we get,
$$u=-1+4beta...(4)\v=2...(5)\w=3beta...(6)$$
(1) and (4) $implies b_1+b_2=6...(7)$



(2), (4) and (6) $implies 9=2b_1+5b_2...(8)$



(7) & (8) $implies b_1=7$ and $b_2=1$. Finally by (3) we get,
$$-alpha_1+4alpha_1beta+3alpha_2beta=-frac{19}{3}$$



That's all I got. If anything wrong please let me know.







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  • thank you very much i appreciate your help
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:39










  • i will update you if anythings wrong but i need some time to check and try
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:52


















  • thank you very much i appreciate your help
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:39










  • i will update you if anythings wrong but i need some time to check and try
    – green life
    Dec 1 at 9:52
















thank you very much i appreciate your help
– green life
Dec 1 at 9:39




thank you very much i appreciate your help
– green life
Dec 1 at 9:39












i will update you if anythings wrong but i need some time to check and try
– green life
Dec 1 at 9:52




i will update you if anythings wrong but i need some time to check and try
– green life
Dec 1 at 9:52



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