Show that the Hahn Banach extension is unique.
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Suppose $X = ell_{infty}$ and $Y = c_0$, considered as a subspace of $X$. How can I show that if $y^{ast}in Y^{ast}$ and $ | y^{ast}| = 1$, then the norm preserving Hahn Banach extension is unique?
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Suppose $X = ell_{infty}$ and $Y = c_0$, considered as a subspace of $X$. How can I show that if $y^{ast}in Y^{ast}$ and $ | y^{ast}| = 1$, then the norm preserving Hahn Banach extension is unique?
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Some questions for clarification: do you want $Y$ to be $c_0$, the space of sequences which tend to $0$ with the sup norm, and $X$ to be $Y^{**}$? Also, what do you mean by "the norm preserving Hahn-Banach extension"? What functional are you extending, to what space?
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:16
what i mean is Y as a subspace of X and by Hahn Banach theorem, we can extend $y^{ast}$ to $x^{ast}$ defined on X such that their norm equal.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:21
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What makes you think that it is unique?
– fedja
Nov 23 at 22:23
This appears to be false. See math.stackexchange.com/a/2992237/343481.
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:36
This is an exercise given by my prof, I was having a lot of troubles trying to do it.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:46
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Suppose $X = ell_{infty}$ and $Y = c_0$, considered as a subspace of $X$. How can I show that if $y^{ast}in Y^{ast}$ and $ | y^{ast}| = 1$, then the norm preserving Hahn Banach extension is unique?
functional-analysis
Suppose $X = ell_{infty}$ and $Y = c_0$, considered as a subspace of $X$. How can I show that if $y^{ast}in Y^{ast}$ and $ | y^{ast}| = 1$, then the norm preserving Hahn Banach extension is unique?
functional-analysis
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Some questions for clarification: do you want $Y$ to be $c_0$, the space of sequences which tend to $0$ with the sup norm, and $X$ to be $Y^{**}$? Also, what do you mean by "the norm preserving Hahn-Banach extension"? What functional are you extending, to what space?
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:16
what i mean is Y as a subspace of X and by Hahn Banach theorem, we can extend $y^{ast}$ to $x^{ast}$ defined on X such that their norm equal.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:21
1
What makes you think that it is unique?
– fedja
Nov 23 at 22:23
This appears to be false. See math.stackexchange.com/a/2992237/343481.
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:36
This is an exercise given by my prof, I was having a lot of troubles trying to do it.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:46
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Some questions for clarification: do you want $Y$ to be $c_0$, the space of sequences which tend to $0$ with the sup norm, and $X$ to be $Y^{**}$? Also, what do you mean by "the norm preserving Hahn-Banach extension"? What functional are you extending, to what space?
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:16
what i mean is Y as a subspace of X and by Hahn Banach theorem, we can extend $y^{ast}$ to $x^{ast}$ defined on X such that their norm equal.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:21
1
What makes you think that it is unique?
– fedja
Nov 23 at 22:23
This appears to be false. See math.stackexchange.com/a/2992237/343481.
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:36
This is an exercise given by my prof, I was having a lot of troubles trying to do it.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:46
Some questions for clarification: do you want $Y$ to be $c_0$, the space of sequences which tend to $0$ with the sup norm, and $X$ to be $Y^{**}$? Also, what do you mean by "the norm preserving Hahn-Banach extension"? What functional are you extending, to what space?
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:16
Some questions for clarification: do you want $Y$ to be $c_0$, the space of sequences which tend to $0$ with the sup norm, and $X$ to be $Y^{**}$? Also, what do you mean by "the norm preserving Hahn-Banach extension"? What functional are you extending, to what space?
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:16
what i mean is Y as a subspace of X and by Hahn Banach theorem, we can extend $y^{ast}$ to $x^{ast}$ defined on X such that their norm equal.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:21
what i mean is Y as a subspace of X and by Hahn Banach theorem, we can extend $y^{ast}$ to $x^{ast}$ defined on X such that their norm equal.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:21
1
1
What makes you think that it is unique?
– fedja
Nov 23 at 22:23
What makes you think that it is unique?
– fedja
Nov 23 at 22:23
This appears to be false. See math.stackexchange.com/a/2992237/343481.
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:36
This appears to be false. See math.stackexchange.com/a/2992237/343481.
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:36
This is an exercise given by my prof, I was having a lot of troubles trying to do it.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:46
This is an exercise given by my prof, I was having a lot of troubles trying to do it.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:46
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It is clear that $y^*$ can be identified with $y in ell^1$ and this generates the functional
$g : x mapsto sum_{i = 1}^infty x_i y_i$
for $x in ell^infty$.
Now, suppose that $f in X^*$ is a different extension with the same norm. Then, $f - g$ vanishes on $c_0$. However, there must be $hat x in ell^infty$ with
$$(f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
Even more, let $T_n$ be the operator that sets the first elements of a sequence to zero. Then,
$$(f-g)(T_n hat x) = (f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
However, $g(T_n hat x) to 0$ and, thus, $f(T_n hat x) to 1$.
Finally, we consider for $k in mathbb N$ the sequence $z_k$ with entries
$$
(z_k)_n
=
begin{cases}
K,operatorname{sign}(y_n)& text{for } n < k, \
hat x_n&text{else},
end{cases}
$$
Where $K = |hat x|_{ell^infty}$.
Then,
$$f(z_k) to K , | y |_{ell^1} + 1.$$
However, $|z_k|_{ell^infty} le K$. This contradicts that $|f|_{X^star} = |y|_{ell^1}$.
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It is clear that $y^*$ can be identified with $y in ell^1$ and this generates the functional
$g : x mapsto sum_{i = 1}^infty x_i y_i$
for $x in ell^infty$.
Now, suppose that $f in X^*$ is a different extension with the same norm. Then, $f - g$ vanishes on $c_0$. However, there must be $hat x in ell^infty$ with
$$(f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
Even more, let $T_n$ be the operator that sets the first elements of a sequence to zero. Then,
$$(f-g)(T_n hat x) = (f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
However, $g(T_n hat x) to 0$ and, thus, $f(T_n hat x) to 1$.
Finally, we consider for $k in mathbb N$ the sequence $z_k$ with entries
$$
(z_k)_n
=
begin{cases}
K,operatorname{sign}(y_n)& text{for } n < k, \
hat x_n&text{else},
end{cases}
$$
Where $K = |hat x|_{ell^infty}$.
Then,
$$f(z_k) to K , | y |_{ell^1} + 1.$$
However, $|z_k|_{ell^infty} le K$. This contradicts that $|f|_{X^star} = |y|_{ell^1}$.
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It is clear that $y^*$ can be identified with $y in ell^1$ and this generates the functional
$g : x mapsto sum_{i = 1}^infty x_i y_i$
for $x in ell^infty$.
Now, suppose that $f in X^*$ is a different extension with the same norm. Then, $f - g$ vanishes on $c_0$. However, there must be $hat x in ell^infty$ with
$$(f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
Even more, let $T_n$ be the operator that sets the first elements of a sequence to zero. Then,
$$(f-g)(T_n hat x) = (f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
However, $g(T_n hat x) to 0$ and, thus, $f(T_n hat x) to 1$.
Finally, we consider for $k in mathbb N$ the sequence $z_k$ with entries
$$
(z_k)_n
=
begin{cases}
K,operatorname{sign}(y_n)& text{for } n < k, \
hat x_n&text{else},
end{cases}
$$
Where $K = |hat x|_{ell^infty}$.
Then,
$$f(z_k) to K , | y |_{ell^1} + 1.$$
However, $|z_k|_{ell^infty} le K$. This contradicts that $|f|_{X^star} = |y|_{ell^1}$.
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It is clear that $y^*$ can be identified with $y in ell^1$ and this generates the functional
$g : x mapsto sum_{i = 1}^infty x_i y_i$
for $x in ell^infty$.
Now, suppose that $f in X^*$ is a different extension with the same norm. Then, $f - g$ vanishes on $c_0$. However, there must be $hat x in ell^infty$ with
$$(f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
Even more, let $T_n$ be the operator that sets the first elements of a sequence to zero. Then,
$$(f-g)(T_n hat x) = (f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
However, $g(T_n hat x) to 0$ and, thus, $f(T_n hat x) to 1$.
Finally, we consider for $k in mathbb N$ the sequence $z_k$ with entries
$$
(z_k)_n
=
begin{cases}
K,operatorname{sign}(y_n)& text{for } n < k, \
hat x_n&text{else},
end{cases}
$$
Where $K = |hat x|_{ell^infty}$.
Then,
$$f(z_k) to K , | y |_{ell^1} + 1.$$
However, $|z_k|_{ell^infty} le K$. This contradicts that $|f|_{X^star} = |y|_{ell^1}$.
It is clear that $y^*$ can be identified with $y in ell^1$ and this generates the functional
$g : x mapsto sum_{i = 1}^infty x_i y_i$
for $x in ell^infty$.
Now, suppose that $f in X^*$ is a different extension with the same norm. Then, $f - g$ vanishes on $c_0$. However, there must be $hat x in ell^infty$ with
$$(f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
Even more, let $T_n$ be the operator that sets the first elements of a sequence to zero. Then,
$$(f-g)(T_n hat x) = (f-g)(hat x) = 1.$$
However, $g(T_n hat x) to 0$ and, thus, $f(T_n hat x) to 1$.
Finally, we consider for $k in mathbb N$ the sequence $z_k$ with entries
$$
(z_k)_n
=
begin{cases}
K,operatorname{sign}(y_n)& text{for } n < k, \
hat x_n&text{else},
end{cases}
$$
Where $K = |hat x|_{ell^infty}$.
Then,
$$f(z_k) to K , | y |_{ell^1} + 1.$$
However, $|z_k|_{ell^infty} le K$. This contradicts that $|f|_{X^star} = |y|_{ell^1}$.
answered Nov 24 at 18:01
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Some questions for clarification: do you want $Y$ to be $c_0$, the space of sequences which tend to $0$ with the sup norm, and $X$ to be $Y^{**}$? Also, what do you mean by "the norm preserving Hahn-Banach extension"? What functional are you extending, to what space?
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:16
what i mean is Y as a subspace of X and by Hahn Banach theorem, we can extend $y^{ast}$ to $x^{ast}$ defined on X such that their norm equal.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:21
1
What makes you think that it is unique?
– fedja
Nov 23 at 22:23
This appears to be false. See math.stackexchange.com/a/2992237/343481.
– Ashwin Trisal
Nov 23 at 22:36
This is an exercise given by my prof, I was having a lot of troubles trying to do it.
– Rikka
Nov 23 at 22:46