What is an intuitive approach to solving $lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} +...
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$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)$$
I managed to get the answer as $1$ by standard methods of solving, learned from teachers, but my intuition says that the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator so limit must equal to zero.
Where is my mistake? Please explain very intuitively.
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$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)$$
I managed to get the answer as $1$ by standard methods of solving, learned from teachers, but my intuition says that the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator so limit must equal to zero.
Where is my mistake? Please explain very intuitively.
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Human intuition in general is a product of evolution and history has shown that deep mathematical skills don't offer any extra advantages in human survival. Situation is similar to the fact that results of relativity and quantum mechanics are counter-intuitive. Nobody on earth had to walk with speeds close to light or deal with objects the size of an atom. Relying on intuition and trying to explain everything intuitively even at the expense of correctness is a modern trend and is based on the belief that it leads to better understanding. Cont'd..
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:43
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Results in advanced mathematics have time and again proved that one should rely more on rigor than intuition and perhaps it is time we ditch the belief that intuitive explanations are better.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:45
@ParamanandSingh I generally agree with you, though intuition has its place. The Greeks did Geometry with an axiomatic version of geometry based on reality that has become central to mathematics. Newton, Euler, etc. assumed the Intermediate Value Theorem and proved great results. I would even argue that familiarity to the point of intuition in a field of learning is often required to expand the field, though of course there are plenty of counterexamples and it depends on how you would define intuition. For example, I recognized immediately that the series converged...
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:14
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@ParamanandSingh do we associate thus with intuition or simply with prior experience? In general, is intuition unchanging or does it adapt as we become familiar with material?
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:15
I like both sides of this discussion, but I think you might be using the same word to describe two different things. Intuition is basically instinct, so Paramanand is referring to the word in it's correct meaning. However, we tend to use the word intuition to refer to something that feels like instinct, but actually comes with experience. I'm not sure if there is a dedicated word for this, which is probably why we say "intuition". To a researcher in category theory, the subject is "intuitive", but to anyone else, it seems extremely esoteric and unintuitive. I think there is a way to develop...
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$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)$$
I managed to get the answer as $1$ by standard methods of solving, learned from teachers, but my intuition says that the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator so limit must equal to zero.
Where is my mistake? Please explain very intuitively.
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$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)$$
I managed to get the answer as $1$ by standard methods of solving, learned from teachers, but my intuition says that the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator so limit must equal to zero.
Where is my mistake? Please explain very intuitively.
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Human intuition in general is a product of evolution and history has shown that deep mathematical skills don't offer any extra advantages in human survival. Situation is similar to the fact that results of relativity and quantum mechanics are counter-intuitive. Nobody on earth had to walk with speeds close to light or deal with objects the size of an atom. Relying on intuition and trying to explain everything intuitively even at the expense of correctness is a modern trend and is based on the belief that it leads to better understanding. Cont'd..
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:43
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Results in advanced mathematics have time and again proved that one should rely more on rigor than intuition and perhaps it is time we ditch the belief that intuitive explanations are better.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:45
@ParamanandSingh I generally agree with you, though intuition has its place. The Greeks did Geometry with an axiomatic version of geometry based on reality that has become central to mathematics. Newton, Euler, etc. assumed the Intermediate Value Theorem and proved great results. I would even argue that familiarity to the point of intuition in a field of learning is often required to expand the field, though of course there are plenty of counterexamples and it depends on how you would define intuition. For example, I recognized immediately that the series converged...
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:14
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@ParamanandSingh do we associate thus with intuition or simply with prior experience? In general, is intuition unchanging or does it adapt as we become familiar with material?
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:15
I like both sides of this discussion, but I think you might be using the same word to describe two different things. Intuition is basically instinct, so Paramanand is referring to the word in it's correct meaning. However, we tend to use the word intuition to refer to something that feels like instinct, but actually comes with experience. I'm not sure if there is a dedicated word for this, which is probably why we say "intuition". To a researcher in category theory, the subject is "intuitive", but to anyone else, it seems extremely esoteric and unintuitive. I think there is a way to develop...
– AlexanderJ93
Jul 27 '17 at 17:00
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Human intuition in general is a product of evolution and history has shown that deep mathematical skills don't offer any extra advantages in human survival. Situation is similar to the fact that results of relativity and quantum mechanics are counter-intuitive. Nobody on earth had to walk with speeds close to light or deal with objects the size of an atom. Relying on intuition and trying to explain everything intuitively even at the expense of correctness is a modern trend and is based on the belief that it leads to better understanding. Cont'd..
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:43
16
Results in advanced mathematics have time and again proved that one should rely more on rigor than intuition and perhaps it is time we ditch the belief that intuitive explanations are better.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:45
@ParamanandSingh I generally agree with you, though intuition has its place. The Greeks did Geometry with an axiomatic version of geometry based on reality that has become central to mathematics. Newton, Euler, etc. assumed the Intermediate Value Theorem and proved great results. I would even argue that familiarity to the point of intuition in a field of learning is often required to expand the field, though of course there are plenty of counterexamples and it depends on how you would define intuition. For example, I recognized immediately that the series converged...
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:14
3
@ParamanandSingh do we associate thus with intuition or simply with prior experience? In general, is intuition unchanging or does it adapt as we become familiar with material?
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:15
I like both sides of this discussion, but I think you might be using the same word to describe two different things. Intuition is basically instinct, so Paramanand is referring to the word in it's correct meaning. However, we tend to use the word intuition to refer to something that feels like instinct, but actually comes with experience. I'm not sure if there is a dedicated word for this, which is probably why we say "intuition". To a researcher in category theory, the subject is "intuitive", but to anyone else, it seems extremely esoteric and unintuitive. I think there is a way to develop...
– AlexanderJ93
Jul 27 '17 at 17:00
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Human intuition in general is a product of evolution and history has shown that deep mathematical skills don't offer any extra advantages in human survival. Situation is similar to the fact that results of relativity and quantum mechanics are counter-intuitive. Nobody on earth had to walk with speeds close to light or deal with objects the size of an atom. Relying on intuition and trying to explain everything intuitively even at the expense of correctness is a modern trend and is based on the belief that it leads to better understanding. Cont'd..
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:43
Human intuition in general is a product of evolution and history has shown that deep mathematical skills don't offer any extra advantages in human survival. Situation is similar to the fact that results of relativity and quantum mechanics are counter-intuitive. Nobody on earth had to walk with speeds close to light or deal with objects the size of an atom. Relying on intuition and trying to explain everything intuitively even at the expense of correctness is a modern trend and is based on the belief that it leads to better understanding. Cont'd..
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:43
16
16
Results in advanced mathematics have time and again proved that one should rely more on rigor than intuition and perhaps it is time we ditch the belief that intuitive explanations are better.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:45
Results in advanced mathematics have time and again proved that one should rely more on rigor than intuition and perhaps it is time we ditch the belief that intuitive explanations are better.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:45
@ParamanandSingh I generally agree with you, though intuition has its place. The Greeks did Geometry with an axiomatic version of geometry based on reality that has become central to mathematics. Newton, Euler, etc. assumed the Intermediate Value Theorem and proved great results. I would even argue that familiarity to the point of intuition in a field of learning is often required to expand the field, though of course there are plenty of counterexamples and it depends on how you would define intuition. For example, I recognized immediately that the series converged...
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:14
@ParamanandSingh I generally agree with you, though intuition has its place. The Greeks did Geometry with an axiomatic version of geometry based on reality that has become central to mathematics. Newton, Euler, etc. assumed the Intermediate Value Theorem and proved great results. I would even argue that familiarity to the point of intuition in a field of learning is often required to expand the field, though of course there are plenty of counterexamples and it depends on how you would define intuition. For example, I recognized immediately that the series converged...
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:14
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3
@ParamanandSingh do we associate thus with intuition or simply with prior experience? In general, is intuition unchanging or does it adapt as we become familiar with material?
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:15
@ParamanandSingh do we associate thus with intuition or simply with prior experience? In general, is intuition unchanging or does it adapt as we become familiar with material?
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:15
I like both sides of this discussion, but I think you might be using the same word to describe two different things. Intuition is basically instinct, so Paramanand is referring to the word in it's correct meaning. However, we tend to use the word intuition to refer to something that feels like instinct, but actually comes with experience. I'm not sure if there is a dedicated word for this, which is probably why we say "intuition". To a researcher in category theory, the subject is "intuitive", but to anyone else, it seems extremely esoteric and unintuitive. I think there is a way to develop...
– AlexanderJ93
Jul 27 '17 at 17:00
I like both sides of this discussion, but I think you might be using the same word to describe two different things. Intuition is basically instinct, so Paramanand is referring to the word in it's correct meaning. However, we tend to use the word intuition to refer to something that feels like instinct, but actually comes with experience. I'm not sure if there is a dedicated word for this, which is probably why we say "intuition". To a researcher in category theory, the subject is "intuitive", but to anyone else, it seems extremely esoteric and unintuitive. I think there is a way to develop...
– AlexanderJ93
Jul 27 '17 at 17:00
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Intuition should say:
the denominator grows with $n^2$, the numerator grows with $n$. However, the number of fractions also grows by $n$, so the total growth of the numerator is about $n^2$.
And that's where intuition stops. From here on, you go with logic and rigor, not intuition.
And it gets you to
$$frac1{n^2} + frac2{n^2}+cdots + frac{n}{n^2} = frac{1+2+3+cdots + n}{n^2} = frac{frac{n(n+1)}{2}}{n^2} = frac{n^2+n}{2n^2}$$
and you find that the limit is $frac12$ (not $1$!)
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With integrals:
$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n}biggl(frac{1}{n} + frac{2}{n} + frac{3}{n}+dots+frac{n}{n}biggr)= int_{0}^1 x dx =frac{1}{2}$.
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Notice that:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}dfrac{1}{n^2} + dfrac{2}{n^2} + dfrac{3}{n^2}+cdots+dfrac{n}{n^2}=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n^2}left(1+2+dots nright)$$
and this last sum can be replaced by the Gauss formula, so it becomes:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{1}{n^2}left(frac{n(n+1)}{2}right)$$
$$=lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{n+1}{2n}=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{n+1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} 1+frac{1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}$$
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Perhaps this is beyond your curriculum, but one could also use the Stolz-Cesàro theorem.
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{1+2+cdots+(n-1)+n}{n^2}$$
Denote the numerator and denominator, respectively, by
$$a_n=sum_{k=1}^nk$$
$$b_n=n^2$$
It's easy to show that $b_n$ is strictly monotone and divergent. Stolz-Cesàro then says that if
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}$$
exists, then it is equal to
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_n}{b_n}$$
We have
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{sumlimits_{k=1}^{n+1}k-sumlimits_{k=1}^nk}{(n+1)^2-n^2}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n+1}{2n+1}=frac12$$
As the Wiki page mentions, the theorem is sometimes referred to as "L'Hopital's rule for sequences". If you find that intuitive (related question), then perhaps you will think the same of the approach using this theorem.
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If you pull out the denominator, the numerator sums to $frac{n(n+1)}{2}$, then $n^2$ term cancels out and when you take the limit you get $frac{1}{2}$
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Your intuition "the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator" is partially true. It would be completely true if there were finite number of terms. However, you must bear in mind that there are infinite number of terms. Hence you have two variables: denominator $n^2$ and numerator $1+2+cdots+n$ (when you add up the numerators of the fractions with common denominator). Dealing with infinitely small or large quantities is frequently risky and counterintuitive, because in the given limit you have so called indetermined form of $frac{infty}{infty}$ or $0cdot infty$ (if expressed as $frac{1}{n^2}cdot (1+2+cdots+n)$). Thus the result of such indefinite forms depends on their relative rates of increase and/or decrease. As an example, consider a rectangle of area $A$. If its width is reduced infinitely while its length is held constant, then its area will decrease to $0$. If its width is reduced while its length is extended at the same rate, then its area will stay constant. This is what happenned to your limit. And if its width is reduced while its length is extended at a relatively higher rate, the its area will increase infinitely.
Keep developing your intuition!
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You have asked where you are mistaken, so I will only answer this. You have tried to apply the limit individually to the summands. There is a rule which allows you to do this for finite sums, but here we do not have a fixed number of summands, and this rule does not apply. For a simpler example why you also cannot expect it to apply, consider
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}Bigl(underbrace{frac1n+frac1n+dots+frac1n}_{text{$n$ summands}}Bigr).
$$
You could again reason that each summand goes to zero, and therefore so must the sum. But of course this is just a fancy way of writing
$$lim_{ntoinfty} 1,$$
and the limit is $1$. So you see that in general you cannot apply the limits individually to the summands of a sum if the number of summands is not fixed and finite.
Indeed by adding zeros on the right you can view the sum as a series. A series is just a limit of partial sums, and so this also gives you a nice example that you cannot in general exchange two limits.
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Seeing such a term, my intuition would be:
- $n²$ in the denominator, yup, grows quickly (although, not that quickly either, compared to $x^n$ or something like that).
- But, danger!, there are also growing numbers of terms in the nominator.
The second line is the important one; this immediately tells me that I cannot trust any further intuition (i.e., random ideas shooting spontaneously through my mind) anymore, and that it is time to find a pen and some paper.
Full disclosure: I am more at home in CS than maths, but the same is true for O notation in CS, it can be quite misleading and unintuitive. Or rather, deceivingly simple and provoking intuitive errors.
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"grows much faster than the numerator": you are disregarding the fact that the numerator is actually
$$1+2+3+cdots n, $$ which doesn't grow slower than $n^2$.
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Very intuitively, there are a lot of positive terms inside the brackets, so they can add up to something non-zero. An extremely loose way to get at what is going on is to over estimate by $n$ times the largest term and under estimate $n/2$ times the middle term, so you have
$$
frac{1}{4} = frac{n}{2}cdot frac{n/2}{n^2} le frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + cdots + frac{n-1}{n^2} + frac{n}{n^2} le ncdot frac{n}{n^2} = 1
$$
In fact, the answer is just the limit of $n^{-2}binom{n+1}{2} = frac{1}{2}$ as $ntoinfty$, but the above is why you should guess that the answer isn't zero.
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Here's an explanation based on the intuitively obvious fact that a triangle with very little height can nonetheless have substantial area provided it has a very long base.
Draw the step function $f_n(x)={lceil xrceilover n^2}$ for $0le xle n$, and observe that it lies above the triangle with vertices at $(0,0)$, $(n,0)$ and $(n,{1over n})$ -- i.e., a right triangle with base of length $n$ and height $1over n$, hence area $1over2$. Since the area beneath the step function is $S_n={1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, this shows that $lim_{ntoinfty}S_n$, if it exists, cannot be less than $1over2$.
If you like, you can also draw the step function $g_n(x)={lfloor xrfloorover n^2}$ for $0le xle n+1$ which lies below a right triangle with base of length $n+1$ and height $n+1over n^2$ and argue that the area beneath the step function, ${0over n^2}+{1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, is less than ${1over2}left(n+1over nright)^2$. Combining this with the result of the first paragraph leads to the limit $S_nto{1over2}$.
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Intuition should say:
the denominator grows with $n^2$, the numerator grows with $n$. However, the number of fractions also grows by $n$, so the total growth of the numerator is about $n^2$.
And that's where intuition stops. From here on, you go with logic and rigor, not intuition.
And it gets you to
$$frac1{n^2} + frac2{n^2}+cdots + frac{n}{n^2} = frac{1+2+3+cdots + n}{n^2} = frac{frac{n(n+1)}{2}}{n^2} = frac{n^2+n}{2n^2}$$
and you find that the limit is $frac12$ (not $1$!)
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Intuition should say:
the denominator grows with $n^2$, the numerator grows with $n$. However, the number of fractions also grows by $n$, so the total growth of the numerator is about $n^2$.
And that's where intuition stops. From here on, you go with logic and rigor, not intuition.
And it gets you to
$$frac1{n^2} + frac2{n^2}+cdots + frac{n}{n^2} = frac{1+2+3+cdots + n}{n^2} = frac{frac{n(n+1)}{2}}{n^2} = frac{n^2+n}{2n^2}$$
and you find that the limit is $frac12$ (not $1$!)
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Intuition should say:
the denominator grows with $n^2$, the numerator grows with $n$. However, the number of fractions also grows by $n$, so the total growth of the numerator is about $n^2$.
And that's where intuition stops. From here on, you go with logic and rigor, not intuition.
And it gets you to
$$frac1{n^2} + frac2{n^2}+cdots + frac{n}{n^2} = frac{1+2+3+cdots + n}{n^2} = frac{frac{n(n+1)}{2}}{n^2} = frac{n^2+n}{2n^2}$$
and you find that the limit is $frac12$ (not $1$!)
Intuition should say:
the denominator grows with $n^2$, the numerator grows with $n$. However, the number of fractions also grows by $n$, so the total growth of the numerator is about $n^2$.
And that's where intuition stops. From here on, you go with logic and rigor, not intuition.
And it gets you to
$$frac1{n^2} + frac2{n^2}+cdots + frac{n}{n^2} = frac{1+2+3+cdots + n}{n^2} = frac{frac{n(n+1)}{2}}{n^2} = frac{n^2+n}{2n^2}$$
and you find that the limit is $frac12$ (not $1$!)
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With integrals:
$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n}biggl(frac{1}{n} + frac{2}{n} + frac{3}{n}+dots+frac{n}{n}biggr)= int_{0}^1 x dx =frac{1}{2}$.
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With integrals:
$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n}biggl(frac{1}{n} + frac{2}{n} + frac{3}{n}+dots+frac{n}{n}biggr)= int_{0}^1 x dx =frac{1}{2}$.
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With integrals:
$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n}biggl(frac{1}{n} + frac{2}{n} + frac{3}{n}+dots+frac{n}{n}biggr)= int_{0}^1 x dx =frac{1}{2}$.
With integrals:
$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}biggl(frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + frac{3}{n^2}+dots+frac{n}{n^2}biggr)=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n}biggl(frac{1}{n} + frac{2}{n} + frac{3}{n}+dots+frac{n}{n}biggr)= int_{0}^1 x dx =frac{1}{2}$.
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Notice that:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}dfrac{1}{n^2} + dfrac{2}{n^2} + dfrac{3}{n^2}+cdots+dfrac{n}{n^2}=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n^2}left(1+2+dots nright)$$
and this last sum can be replaced by the Gauss formula, so it becomes:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{1}{n^2}left(frac{n(n+1)}{2}right)$$
$$=lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{n+1}{2n}=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{n+1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} 1+frac{1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}$$
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Notice that:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}dfrac{1}{n^2} + dfrac{2}{n^2} + dfrac{3}{n^2}+cdots+dfrac{n}{n^2}=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n^2}left(1+2+dots nright)$$
and this last sum can be replaced by the Gauss formula, so it becomes:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{1}{n^2}left(frac{n(n+1)}{2}right)$$
$$=lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{n+1}{2n}=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{n+1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} 1+frac{1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}$$
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Notice that:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}dfrac{1}{n^2} + dfrac{2}{n^2} + dfrac{3}{n^2}+cdots+dfrac{n}{n^2}=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n^2}left(1+2+dots nright)$$
and this last sum can be replaced by the Gauss formula, so it becomes:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{1}{n^2}left(frac{n(n+1)}{2}right)$$
$$=lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{n+1}{2n}=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{n+1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} 1+frac{1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}$$
Notice that:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}dfrac{1}{n^2} + dfrac{2}{n^2} + dfrac{3}{n^2}+cdots+dfrac{n}{n^2}=lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{1}{n^2}left(1+2+dots nright)$$
and this last sum can be replaced by the Gauss formula, so it becomes:
$$lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{1}{n^2}left(frac{n(n+1)}{2}right)$$
$$=lim_{nrightarrowinfty}frac{n+1}{2n}=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} frac{n+1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}left(lim_{nrightarrowinfty} 1+frac{1}{n}right)=frac{1}{2}$$
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Perhaps this is beyond your curriculum, but one could also use the Stolz-Cesàro theorem.
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{1+2+cdots+(n-1)+n}{n^2}$$
Denote the numerator and denominator, respectively, by
$$a_n=sum_{k=1}^nk$$
$$b_n=n^2$$
It's easy to show that $b_n$ is strictly monotone and divergent. Stolz-Cesàro then says that if
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}$$
exists, then it is equal to
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_n}{b_n}$$
We have
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{sumlimits_{k=1}^{n+1}k-sumlimits_{k=1}^nk}{(n+1)^2-n^2}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n+1}{2n+1}=frac12$$
As the Wiki page mentions, the theorem is sometimes referred to as "L'Hopital's rule for sequences". If you find that intuitive (related question), then perhaps you will think the same of the approach using this theorem.
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Perhaps this is beyond your curriculum, but one could also use the Stolz-Cesàro theorem.
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{1+2+cdots+(n-1)+n}{n^2}$$
Denote the numerator and denominator, respectively, by
$$a_n=sum_{k=1}^nk$$
$$b_n=n^2$$
It's easy to show that $b_n$ is strictly monotone and divergent. Stolz-Cesàro then says that if
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}$$
exists, then it is equal to
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_n}{b_n}$$
We have
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{sumlimits_{k=1}^{n+1}k-sumlimits_{k=1}^nk}{(n+1)^2-n^2}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n+1}{2n+1}=frac12$$
As the Wiki page mentions, the theorem is sometimes referred to as "L'Hopital's rule for sequences". If you find that intuitive (related question), then perhaps you will think the same of the approach using this theorem.
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Perhaps this is beyond your curriculum, but one could also use the Stolz-Cesàro theorem.
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{1+2+cdots+(n-1)+n}{n^2}$$
Denote the numerator and denominator, respectively, by
$$a_n=sum_{k=1}^nk$$
$$b_n=n^2$$
It's easy to show that $b_n$ is strictly monotone and divergent. Stolz-Cesàro then says that if
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}$$
exists, then it is equal to
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_n}{b_n}$$
We have
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{sumlimits_{k=1}^{n+1}k-sumlimits_{k=1}^nk}{(n+1)^2-n^2}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n+1}{2n+1}=frac12$$
As the Wiki page mentions, the theorem is sometimes referred to as "L'Hopital's rule for sequences". If you find that intuitive (related question), then perhaps you will think the same of the approach using this theorem.
Perhaps this is beyond your curriculum, but one could also use the Stolz-Cesàro theorem.
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{1+2+cdots+(n-1)+n}{n^2}$$
Denote the numerator and denominator, respectively, by
$$a_n=sum_{k=1}^nk$$
$$b_n=n^2$$
It's easy to show that $b_n$ is strictly monotone and divergent. Stolz-Cesàro then says that if
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}$$
exists, then it is equal to
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_n}{b_n}$$
We have
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{a_{n+1}-a_n}{b_{n+1}-b_n}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{sumlimits_{k=1}^{n+1}k-sumlimits_{k=1}^nk}{(n+1)^2-n^2}=lim_{ntoinfty}frac{n+1}{2n+1}=frac12$$
As the Wiki page mentions, the theorem is sometimes referred to as "L'Hopital's rule for sequences". If you find that intuitive (related question), then perhaps you will think the same of the approach using this theorem.
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If you pull out the denominator, the numerator sums to $frac{n(n+1)}{2}$, then $n^2$ term cancels out and when you take the limit you get $frac{1}{2}$
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If you pull out the denominator, the numerator sums to $frac{n(n+1)}{2}$, then $n^2$ term cancels out and when you take the limit you get $frac{1}{2}$
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If you pull out the denominator, the numerator sums to $frac{n(n+1)}{2}$, then $n^2$ term cancels out and when you take the limit you get $frac{1}{2}$
If you pull out the denominator, the numerator sums to $frac{n(n+1)}{2}$, then $n^2$ term cancels out and when you take the limit you get $frac{1}{2}$
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Your intuition "the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator" is partially true. It would be completely true if there were finite number of terms. However, you must bear in mind that there are infinite number of terms. Hence you have two variables: denominator $n^2$ and numerator $1+2+cdots+n$ (when you add up the numerators of the fractions with common denominator). Dealing with infinitely small or large quantities is frequently risky and counterintuitive, because in the given limit you have so called indetermined form of $frac{infty}{infty}$ or $0cdot infty$ (if expressed as $frac{1}{n^2}cdot (1+2+cdots+n)$). Thus the result of such indefinite forms depends on their relative rates of increase and/or decrease. As an example, consider a rectangle of area $A$. If its width is reduced infinitely while its length is held constant, then its area will decrease to $0$. If its width is reduced while its length is extended at the same rate, then its area will stay constant. This is what happenned to your limit. And if its width is reduced while its length is extended at a relatively higher rate, the its area will increase infinitely.
Keep developing your intuition!
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Your intuition "the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator" is partially true. It would be completely true if there were finite number of terms. However, you must bear in mind that there are infinite number of terms. Hence you have two variables: denominator $n^2$ and numerator $1+2+cdots+n$ (when you add up the numerators of the fractions with common denominator). Dealing with infinitely small or large quantities is frequently risky and counterintuitive, because in the given limit you have so called indetermined form of $frac{infty}{infty}$ or $0cdot infty$ (if expressed as $frac{1}{n^2}cdot (1+2+cdots+n)$). Thus the result of such indefinite forms depends on their relative rates of increase and/or decrease. As an example, consider a rectangle of area $A$. If its width is reduced infinitely while its length is held constant, then its area will decrease to $0$. If its width is reduced while its length is extended at the same rate, then its area will stay constant. This is what happenned to your limit. And if its width is reduced while its length is extended at a relatively higher rate, the its area will increase infinitely.
Keep developing your intuition!
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Your intuition "the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator" is partially true. It would be completely true if there were finite number of terms. However, you must bear in mind that there are infinite number of terms. Hence you have two variables: denominator $n^2$ and numerator $1+2+cdots+n$ (when you add up the numerators of the fractions with common denominator). Dealing with infinitely small or large quantities is frequently risky and counterintuitive, because in the given limit you have so called indetermined form of $frac{infty}{infty}$ or $0cdot infty$ (if expressed as $frac{1}{n^2}cdot (1+2+cdots+n)$). Thus the result of such indefinite forms depends on their relative rates of increase and/or decrease. As an example, consider a rectangle of area $A$. If its width is reduced infinitely while its length is held constant, then its area will decrease to $0$. If its width is reduced while its length is extended at the same rate, then its area will stay constant. This is what happenned to your limit. And if its width is reduced while its length is extended at a relatively higher rate, the its area will increase infinitely.
Keep developing your intuition!
Your intuition "the denominator of every term grows much faster than the numerator" is partially true. It would be completely true if there were finite number of terms. However, you must bear in mind that there are infinite number of terms. Hence you have two variables: denominator $n^2$ and numerator $1+2+cdots+n$ (when you add up the numerators of the fractions with common denominator). Dealing with infinitely small or large quantities is frequently risky and counterintuitive, because in the given limit you have so called indetermined form of $frac{infty}{infty}$ or $0cdot infty$ (if expressed as $frac{1}{n^2}cdot (1+2+cdots+n)$). Thus the result of such indefinite forms depends on their relative rates of increase and/or decrease. As an example, consider a rectangle of area $A$. If its width is reduced infinitely while its length is held constant, then its area will decrease to $0$. If its width is reduced while its length is extended at the same rate, then its area will stay constant. This is what happenned to your limit. And if its width is reduced while its length is extended at a relatively higher rate, the its area will increase infinitely.
Keep developing your intuition!
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You have asked where you are mistaken, so I will only answer this. You have tried to apply the limit individually to the summands. There is a rule which allows you to do this for finite sums, but here we do not have a fixed number of summands, and this rule does not apply. For a simpler example why you also cannot expect it to apply, consider
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}Bigl(underbrace{frac1n+frac1n+dots+frac1n}_{text{$n$ summands}}Bigr).
$$
You could again reason that each summand goes to zero, and therefore so must the sum. But of course this is just a fancy way of writing
$$lim_{ntoinfty} 1,$$
and the limit is $1$. So you see that in general you cannot apply the limits individually to the summands of a sum if the number of summands is not fixed and finite.
Indeed by adding zeros on the right you can view the sum as a series. A series is just a limit of partial sums, and so this also gives you a nice example that you cannot in general exchange two limits.
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You have asked where you are mistaken, so I will only answer this. You have tried to apply the limit individually to the summands. There is a rule which allows you to do this for finite sums, but here we do not have a fixed number of summands, and this rule does not apply. For a simpler example why you also cannot expect it to apply, consider
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}Bigl(underbrace{frac1n+frac1n+dots+frac1n}_{text{$n$ summands}}Bigr).
$$
You could again reason that each summand goes to zero, and therefore so must the sum. But of course this is just a fancy way of writing
$$lim_{ntoinfty} 1,$$
and the limit is $1$. So you see that in general you cannot apply the limits individually to the summands of a sum if the number of summands is not fixed and finite.
Indeed by adding zeros on the right you can view the sum as a series. A series is just a limit of partial sums, and so this also gives you a nice example that you cannot in general exchange two limits.
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You have asked where you are mistaken, so I will only answer this. You have tried to apply the limit individually to the summands. There is a rule which allows you to do this for finite sums, but here we do not have a fixed number of summands, and this rule does not apply. For a simpler example why you also cannot expect it to apply, consider
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}Bigl(underbrace{frac1n+frac1n+dots+frac1n}_{text{$n$ summands}}Bigr).
$$
You could again reason that each summand goes to zero, and therefore so must the sum. But of course this is just a fancy way of writing
$$lim_{ntoinfty} 1,$$
and the limit is $1$. So you see that in general you cannot apply the limits individually to the summands of a sum if the number of summands is not fixed and finite.
Indeed by adding zeros on the right you can view the sum as a series. A series is just a limit of partial sums, and so this also gives you a nice example that you cannot in general exchange two limits.
You have asked where you are mistaken, so I will only answer this. You have tried to apply the limit individually to the summands. There is a rule which allows you to do this for finite sums, but here we do not have a fixed number of summands, and this rule does not apply. For a simpler example why you also cannot expect it to apply, consider
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}Bigl(underbrace{frac1n+frac1n+dots+frac1n}_{text{$n$ summands}}Bigr).
$$
You could again reason that each summand goes to zero, and therefore so must the sum. But of course this is just a fancy way of writing
$$lim_{ntoinfty} 1,$$
and the limit is $1$. So you see that in general you cannot apply the limits individually to the summands of a sum if the number of summands is not fixed and finite.
Indeed by adding zeros on the right you can view the sum as a series. A series is just a limit of partial sums, and so this also gives you a nice example that you cannot in general exchange two limits.
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Seeing such a term, my intuition would be:
- $n²$ in the denominator, yup, grows quickly (although, not that quickly either, compared to $x^n$ or something like that).
- But, danger!, there are also growing numbers of terms in the nominator.
The second line is the important one; this immediately tells me that I cannot trust any further intuition (i.e., random ideas shooting spontaneously through my mind) anymore, and that it is time to find a pen and some paper.
Full disclosure: I am more at home in CS than maths, but the same is true for O notation in CS, it can be quite misleading and unintuitive. Or rather, deceivingly simple and provoking intuitive errors.
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Seeing such a term, my intuition would be:
- $n²$ in the denominator, yup, grows quickly (although, not that quickly either, compared to $x^n$ or something like that).
- But, danger!, there are also growing numbers of terms in the nominator.
The second line is the important one; this immediately tells me that I cannot trust any further intuition (i.e., random ideas shooting spontaneously through my mind) anymore, and that it is time to find a pen and some paper.
Full disclosure: I am more at home in CS than maths, but the same is true for O notation in CS, it can be quite misleading and unintuitive. Or rather, deceivingly simple and provoking intuitive errors.
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Seeing such a term, my intuition would be:
- $n²$ in the denominator, yup, grows quickly (although, not that quickly either, compared to $x^n$ or something like that).
- But, danger!, there are also growing numbers of terms in the nominator.
The second line is the important one; this immediately tells me that I cannot trust any further intuition (i.e., random ideas shooting spontaneously through my mind) anymore, and that it is time to find a pen and some paper.
Full disclosure: I am more at home in CS than maths, but the same is true for O notation in CS, it can be quite misleading and unintuitive. Or rather, deceivingly simple and provoking intuitive errors.
Seeing such a term, my intuition would be:
- $n²$ in the denominator, yup, grows quickly (although, not that quickly either, compared to $x^n$ or something like that).
- But, danger!, there are also growing numbers of terms in the nominator.
The second line is the important one; this immediately tells me that I cannot trust any further intuition (i.e., random ideas shooting spontaneously through my mind) anymore, and that it is time to find a pen and some paper.
Full disclosure: I am more at home in CS than maths, but the same is true for O notation in CS, it can be quite misleading and unintuitive. Or rather, deceivingly simple and provoking intuitive errors.
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"grows much faster than the numerator": you are disregarding the fact that the numerator is actually
$$1+2+3+cdots n, $$ which doesn't grow slower than $n^2$.
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"grows much faster than the numerator": you are disregarding the fact that the numerator is actually
$$1+2+3+cdots n, $$ which doesn't grow slower than $n^2$.
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"grows much faster than the numerator": you are disregarding the fact that the numerator is actually
$$1+2+3+cdots n, $$ which doesn't grow slower than $n^2$.
"grows much faster than the numerator": you are disregarding the fact that the numerator is actually
$$1+2+3+cdots n, $$ which doesn't grow slower than $n^2$.
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Very intuitively, there are a lot of positive terms inside the brackets, so they can add up to something non-zero. An extremely loose way to get at what is going on is to over estimate by $n$ times the largest term and under estimate $n/2$ times the middle term, so you have
$$
frac{1}{4} = frac{n}{2}cdot frac{n/2}{n^2} le frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + cdots + frac{n-1}{n^2} + frac{n}{n^2} le ncdot frac{n}{n^2} = 1
$$
In fact, the answer is just the limit of $n^{-2}binom{n+1}{2} = frac{1}{2}$ as $ntoinfty$, but the above is why you should guess that the answer isn't zero.
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Very intuitively, there are a lot of positive terms inside the brackets, so they can add up to something non-zero. An extremely loose way to get at what is going on is to over estimate by $n$ times the largest term and under estimate $n/2$ times the middle term, so you have
$$
frac{1}{4} = frac{n}{2}cdot frac{n/2}{n^2} le frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + cdots + frac{n-1}{n^2} + frac{n}{n^2} le ncdot frac{n}{n^2} = 1
$$
In fact, the answer is just the limit of $n^{-2}binom{n+1}{2} = frac{1}{2}$ as $ntoinfty$, but the above is why you should guess that the answer isn't zero.
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Very intuitively, there are a lot of positive terms inside the brackets, so they can add up to something non-zero. An extremely loose way to get at what is going on is to over estimate by $n$ times the largest term and under estimate $n/2$ times the middle term, so you have
$$
frac{1}{4} = frac{n}{2}cdot frac{n/2}{n^2} le frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + cdots + frac{n-1}{n^2} + frac{n}{n^2} le ncdot frac{n}{n^2} = 1
$$
In fact, the answer is just the limit of $n^{-2}binom{n+1}{2} = frac{1}{2}$ as $ntoinfty$, but the above is why you should guess that the answer isn't zero.
Very intuitively, there are a lot of positive terms inside the brackets, so they can add up to something non-zero. An extremely loose way to get at what is going on is to over estimate by $n$ times the largest term and under estimate $n/2$ times the middle term, so you have
$$
frac{1}{4} = frac{n}{2}cdot frac{n/2}{n^2} le frac{1}{n^2} + frac{2}{n^2} + cdots + frac{n-1}{n^2} + frac{n}{n^2} le ncdot frac{n}{n^2} = 1
$$
In fact, the answer is just the limit of $n^{-2}binom{n+1}{2} = frac{1}{2}$ as $ntoinfty$, but the above is why you should guess that the answer isn't zero.
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Here's an explanation based on the intuitively obvious fact that a triangle with very little height can nonetheless have substantial area provided it has a very long base.
Draw the step function $f_n(x)={lceil xrceilover n^2}$ for $0le xle n$, and observe that it lies above the triangle with vertices at $(0,0)$, $(n,0)$ and $(n,{1over n})$ -- i.e., a right triangle with base of length $n$ and height $1over n$, hence area $1over2$. Since the area beneath the step function is $S_n={1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, this shows that $lim_{ntoinfty}S_n$, if it exists, cannot be less than $1over2$.
If you like, you can also draw the step function $g_n(x)={lfloor xrfloorover n^2}$ for $0le xle n+1$ which lies below a right triangle with base of length $n+1$ and height $n+1over n^2$ and argue that the area beneath the step function, ${0over n^2}+{1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, is less than ${1over2}left(n+1over nright)^2$. Combining this with the result of the first paragraph leads to the limit $S_nto{1over2}$.
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Here's an explanation based on the intuitively obvious fact that a triangle with very little height can nonetheless have substantial area provided it has a very long base.
Draw the step function $f_n(x)={lceil xrceilover n^2}$ for $0le xle n$, and observe that it lies above the triangle with vertices at $(0,0)$, $(n,0)$ and $(n,{1over n})$ -- i.e., a right triangle with base of length $n$ and height $1over n$, hence area $1over2$. Since the area beneath the step function is $S_n={1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, this shows that $lim_{ntoinfty}S_n$, if it exists, cannot be less than $1over2$.
If you like, you can also draw the step function $g_n(x)={lfloor xrfloorover n^2}$ for $0le xle n+1$ which lies below a right triangle with base of length $n+1$ and height $n+1over n^2$ and argue that the area beneath the step function, ${0over n^2}+{1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, is less than ${1over2}left(n+1over nright)^2$. Combining this with the result of the first paragraph leads to the limit $S_nto{1over2}$.
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Here's an explanation based on the intuitively obvious fact that a triangle with very little height can nonetheless have substantial area provided it has a very long base.
Draw the step function $f_n(x)={lceil xrceilover n^2}$ for $0le xle n$, and observe that it lies above the triangle with vertices at $(0,0)$, $(n,0)$ and $(n,{1over n})$ -- i.e., a right triangle with base of length $n$ and height $1over n$, hence area $1over2$. Since the area beneath the step function is $S_n={1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, this shows that $lim_{ntoinfty}S_n$, if it exists, cannot be less than $1over2$.
If you like, you can also draw the step function $g_n(x)={lfloor xrfloorover n^2}$ for $0le xle n+1$ which lies below a right triangle with base of length $n+1$ and height $n+1over n^2$ and argue that the area beneath the step function, ${0over n^2}+{1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, is less than ${1over2}left(n+1over nright)^2$. Combining this with the result of the first paragraph leads to the limit $S_nto{1over2}$.
Here's an explanation based on the intuitively obvious fact that a triangle with very little height can nonetheless have substantial area provided it has a very long base.
Draw the step function $f_n(x)={lceil xrceilover n^2}$ for $0le xle n$, and observe that it lies above the triangle with vertices at $(0,0)$, $(n,0)$ and $(n,{1over n})$ -- i.e., a right triangle with base of length $n$ and height $1over n$, hence area $1over2$. Since the area beneath the step function is $S_n={1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, this shows that $lim_{ntoinfty}S_n$, if it exists, cannot be less than $1over2$.
If you like, you can also draw the step function $g_n(x)={lfloor xrfloorover n^2}$ for $0le xle n+1$ which lies below a right triangle with base of length $n+1$ and height $n+1over n^2$ and argue that the area beneath the step function, ${0over n^2}+{1over n^2}+{2over n^2}+cdots+{nover n^2}$, is less than ${1over2}left(n+1over nright)^2$. Combining this with the result of the first paragraph leads to the limit $S_nto{1over2}$.
answered Dec 6 '17 at 15:30
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Human intuition in general is a product of evolution and history has shown that deep mathematical skills don't offer any extra advantages in human survival. Situation is similar to the fact that results of relativity and quantum mechanics are counter-intuitive. Nobody on earth had to walk with speeds close to light or deal with objects the size of an atom. Relying on intuition and trying to explain everything intuitively even at the expense of correctness is a modern trend and is based on the belief that it leads to better understanding. Cont'd..
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:43
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Results in advanced mathematics have time and again proved that one should rely more on rigor than intuition and perhaps it is time we ditch the belief that intuitive explanations are better.
– Paramanand Singh
Jul 27 '17 at 11:45
@ParamanandSingh I generally agree with you, though intuition has its place. The Greeks did Geometry with an axiomatic version of geometry based on reality that has become central to mathematics. Newton, Euler, etc. assumed the Intermediate Value Theorem and proved great results. I would even argue that familiarity to the point of intuition in a field of learning is often required to expand the field, though of course there are plenty of counterexamples and it depends on how you would define intuition. For example, I recognized immediately that the series converged...
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:14
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@ParamanandSingh do we associate thus with intuition or simply with prior experience? In general, is intuition unchanging or does it adapt as we become familiar with material?
– Brevan Ellefsen
Jul 27 '17 at 16:15
I like both sides of this discussion, but I think you might be using the same word to describe two different things. Intuition is basically instinct, so Paramanand is referring to the word in it's correct meaning. However, we tend to use the word intuition to refer to something that feels like instinct, but actually comes with experience. I'm not sure if there is a dedicated word for this, which is probably why we say "intuition". To a researcher in category theory, the subject is "intuitive", but to anyone else, it seems extremely esoteric and unintuitive. I think there is a way to develop...
– AlexanderJ93
Jul 27 '17 at 17:00