Approximate a solution for $frac{e^{-a}(v+u)(a^x+e^{a}xGamma(x,a))}{Gamma(x+1)}-uapprox 0$












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Is it possible to approximate (or even find) a solution for the following equation:
$$frac{e^{-a}(v+u)(a^x+e^{a}xGamma(x,a))}{Gamma(x+1)}-uapprox0,$$



where $xge 0$ and integer, and the parameters $0<a<1$ and $u>0$, $v>0$.



It should be solved for $x$, can it be expressed in terms of the parameters?



Numerical methods show that such solution exists. For example, for $x=1$, $a=0.7$, $v=96.5543$ and $u=523$ the term value is $0.0246$.



Note: $x$ can be taken as a real number and then use the floor or ceiling functions to define the final expression.










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    Within you equation there is a $p$ used but you did not defined it.
    – mrtaurho
    Nov 30 at 22:20








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    Can you give a numerical example? I'm not even sure which variable you're solving for. Also, what would be considered a good approximation?
    – Maxim
    Dec 1 at 5:11






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    Using $v=96.52509765$ while keeping all of the other values the same gets you much closer to zero. Also, all solutions for $x$ will only depend on $a$ and the ratio $r=v/u$. To see that divide both sides of the equation by $u$.
    – JimB
    Dec 1 at 23:54






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    Not sure there's much more than noting that the ratio $u/v$ can be written in terms of $x$ and $a$: $frac{-a^x+e^a Gamma (x+1)-e^a x Gamma (x,a)}{a^x+e^a x Gamma (x,a)}$. Plotting $a$ vs $r$ for various integer values of $x$ might be informative.
    – JimB
    Dec 2 at 2:31






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    If $a$ and $q = u/v$ are fixed and you're solving for $x$, it seems the lhs as a function of $x$ is monotonically increasing on $(-1, infty)$ and always has a root there, finding which should be straightforward (the root may be negative). If you're allowing $x < -1$, the function has multiple zeroes on $(-infty, -1)$, finding the zero closest to an integer will be more tricky.
    – Maxim
    Dec 2 at 3:41


















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Is it possible to approximate (or even find) a solution for the following equation:
$$frac{e^{-a}(v+u)(a^x+e^{a}xGamma(x,a))}{Gamma(x+1)}-uapprox0,$$



where $xge 0$ and integer, and the parameters $0<a<1$ and $u>0$, $v>0$.



It should be solved for $x$, can it be expressed in terms of the parameters?



Numerical methods show that such solution exists. For example, for $x=1$, $a=0.7$, $v=96.5543$ and $u=523$ the term value is $0.0246$.



Note: $x$ can be taken as a real number and then use the floor or ceiling functions to define the final expression.










share|cite|improve this question




















  • 1




    Within you equation there is a $p$ used but you did not defined it.
    – mrtaurho
    Nov 30 at 22:20








  • 2




    Can you give a numerical example? I'm not even sure which variable you're solving for. Also, what would be considered a good approximation?
    – Maxim
    Dec 1 at 5:11






  • 1




    Using $v=96.52509765$ while keeping all of the other values the same gets you much closer to zero. Also, all solutions for $x$ will only depend on $a$ and the ratio $r=v/u$. To see that divide both sides of the equation by $u$.
    – JimB
    Dec 1 at 23:54






  • 1




    Not sure there's much more than noting that the ratio $u/v$ can be written in terms of $x$ and $a$: $frac{-a^x+e^a Gamma (x+1)-e^a x Gamma (x,a)}{a^x+e^a x Gamma (x,a)}$. Plotting $a$ vs $r$ for various integer values of $x$ might be informative.
    – JimB
    Dec 2 at 2:31






  • 1




    If $a$ and $q = u/v$ are fixed and you're solving for $x$, it seems the lhs as a function of $x$ is monotonically increasing on $(-1, infty)$ and always has a root there, finding which should be straightforward (the root may be negative). If you're allowing $x < -1$, the function has multiple zeroes on $(-infty, -1)$, finding the zero closest to an integer will be more tricky.
    – Maxim
    Dec 2 at 3:41
















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Is it possible to approximate (or even find) a solution for the following equation:
$$frac{e^{-a}(v+u)(a^x+e^{a}xGamma(x,a))}{Gamma(x+1)}-uapprox0,$$



where $xge 0$ and integer, and the parameters $0<a<1$ and $u>0$, $v>0$.



It should be solved for $x$, can it be expressed in terms of the parameters?



Numerical methods show that such solution exists. For example, for $x=1$, $a=0.7$, $v=96.5543$ and $u=523$ the term value is $0.0246$.



Note: $x$ can be taken as a real number and then use the floor or ceiling functions to define the final expression.










share|cite|improve this question















Is it possible to approximate (or even find) a solution for the following equation:
$$frac{e^{-a}(v+u)(a^x+e^{a}xGamma(x,a))}{Gamma(x+1)}-uapprox0,$$



where $xge 0$ and integer, and the parameters $0<a<1$ and $u>0$, $v>0$.



It should be solved for $x$, can it be expressed in terms of the parameters?



Numerical methods show that such solution exists. For example, for $x=1$, $a=0.7$, $v=96.5543$ and $u=523$ the term value is $0.0246$.



Note: $x$ can be taken as a real number and then use the floor or ceiling functions to define the final expression.







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  • 1




    Within you equation there is a $p$ used but you did not defined it.
    – mrtaurho
    Nov 30 at 22:20








  • 2




    Can you give a numerical example? I'm not even sure which variable you're solving for. Also, what would be considered a good approximation?
    – Maxim
    Dec 1 at 5:11






  • 1




    Using $v=96.52509765$ while keeping all of the other values the same gets you much closer to zero. Also, all solutions for $x$ will only depend on $a$ and the ratio $r=v/u$. To see that divide both sides of the equation by $u$.
    – JimB
    Dec 1 at 23:54






  • 1




    Not sure there's much more than noting that the ratio $u/v$ can be written in terms of $x$ and $a$: $frac{-a^x+e^a Gamma (x+1)-e^a x Gamma (x,a)}{a^x+e^a x Gamma (x,a)}$. Plotting $a$ vs $r$ for various integer values of $x$ might be informative.
    – JimB
    Dec 2 at 2:31






  • 1




    If $a$ and $q = u/v$ are fixed and you're solving for $x$, it seems the lhs as a function of $x$ is monotonically increasing on $(-1, infty)$ and always has a root there, finding which should be straightforward (the root may be negative). If you're allowing $x < -1$, the function has multiple zeroes on $(-infty, -1)$, finding the zero closest to an integer will be more tricky.
    – Maxim
    Dec 2 at 3:41
















  • 1




    Within you equation there is a $p$ used but you did not defined it.
    – mrtaurho
    Nov 30 at 22:20








  • 2




    Can you give a numerical example? I'm not even sure which variable you're solving for. Also, what would be considered a good approximation?
    – Maxim
    Dec 1 at 5:11






  • 1




    Using $v=96.52509765$ while keeping all of the other values the same gets you much closer to zero. Also, all solutions for $x$ will only depend on $a$ and the ratio $r=v/u$. To see that divide both sides of the equation by $u$.
    – JimB
    Dec 1 at 23:54






  • 1




    Not sure there's much more than noting that the ratio $u/v$ can be written in terms of $x$ and $a$: $frac{-a^x+e^a Gamma (x+1)-e^a x Gamma (x,a)}{a^x+e^a x Gamma (x,a)}$. Plotting $a$ vs $r$ for various integer values of $x$ might be informative.
    – JimB
    Dec 2 at 2:31






  • 1




    If $a$ and $q = u/v$ are fixed and you're solving for $x$, it seems the lhs as a function of $x$ is monotonically increasing on $(-1, infty)$ and always has a root there, finding which should be straightforward (the root may be negative). If you're allowing $x < -1$, the function has multiple zeroes on $(-infty, -1)$, finding the zero closest to an integer will be more tricky.
    – Maxim
    Dec 2 at 3:41










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1




Within you equation there is a $p$ used but you did not defined it.
– mrtaurho
Nov 30 at 22:20






Within you equation there is a $p$ used but you did not defined it.
– mrtaurho
Nov 30 at 22:20






2




2




Can you give a numerical example? I'm not even sure which variable you're solving for. Also, what would be considered a good approximation?
– Maxim
Dec 1 at 5:11




Can you give a numerical example? I'm not even sure which variable you're solving for. Also, what would be considered a good approximation?
– Maxim
Dec 1 at 5:11




1




1




Using $v=96.52509765$ while keeping all of the other values the same gets you much closer to zero. Also, all solutions for $x$ will only depend on $a$ and the ratio $r=v/u$. To see that divide both sides of the equation by $u$.
– JimB
Dec 1 at 23:54




Using $v=96.52509765$ while keeping all of the other values the same gets you much closer to zero. Also, all solutions for $x$ will only depend on $a$ and the ratio $r=v/u$. To see that divide both sides of the equation by $u$.
– JimB
Dec 1 at 23:54




1




1




Not sure there's much more than noting that the ratio $u/v$ can be written in terms of $x$ and $a$: $frac{-a^x+e^a Gamma (x+1)-e^a x Gamma (x,a)}{a^x+e^a x Gamma (x,a)}$. Plotting $a$ vs $r$ for various integer values of $x$ might be informative.
– JimB
Dec 2 at 2:31




Not sure there's much more than noting that the ratio $u/v$ can be written in terms of $x$ and $a$: $frac{-a^x+e^a Gamma (x+1)-e^a x Gamma (x,a)}{a^x+e^a x Gamma (x,a)}$. Plotting $a$ vs $r$ for various integer values of $x$ might be informative.
– JimB
Dec 2 at 2:31




1




1




If $a$ and $q = u/v$ are fixed and you're solving for $x$, it seems the lhs as a function of $x$ is monotonically increasing on $(-1, infty)$ and always has a root there, finding which should be straightforward (the root may be negative). If you're allowing $x < -1$, the function has multiple zeroes on $(-infty, -1)$, finding the zero closest to an integer will be more tricky.
– Maxim
Dec 2 at 3:41






If $a$ and $q = u/v$ are fixed and you're solving for $x$, it seems the lhs as a function of $x$ is monotonically increasing on $(-1, infty)$ and always has a root there, finding which should be straightforward (the root may be negative). If you're allowing $x < -1$, the function has multiple zeroes on $(-infty, -1)$, finding the zero closest to an integer will be more tricky.
– Maxim
Dec 2 at 3:41

















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