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Sure, $n=4$ will do.
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$n=4$ or $n=8$.
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Is there a $n$ that $3^{3n}-1$ is divisible by 16?
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Sure, $n=4$ will do.
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$n=4$ or $n=8$.
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Sure, $n=4$ will do.
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$n=4$ or $n=8$.
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Sure, $n=4$ will do.
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Sure, $n=4$ will do.
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$n=4$ or $n=8$.
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$n=4$ or $n=8$.
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By Carmichael's function, if $lcd(a,m)=1$ and $a,m,kinmathbb N$ $$a^{lambda(m)·k}equiv1mod{m}$$
In this example, since 3 and 16 are coprime $$3^{lambda(16)·k}equiv 1 mod{16}$$
$$Rightarrow 3^{4k}-1equiv0mod{16}$$
Thus, for any $ninmathbb{N}$ such that $4mid(3n)$, $3^{3n}-1$ is divisible by 16.
Hence $forall nin{xinmathbb N:4mid x}$, i.e., whenever $n$ is a multiple of 4, the condition is satisfied
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$$3^{3n}-1=(3^n)^3-1^3$$
$$=(3^n-1)(3^{2n}+3^n+1)$$
we just need $3^n-1$ to be divisible by $16$.
let us look for even $n=2p$.
then
$$3^n-1=(3^p+1)(3^p-1)$$
$3^p+1$ is even. we need $3^p-1$ divisible by $8$. we take $p=2$.
it gives $n=4$.
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Yes; $n=4$ gives $3^{3n}-1=531440$, which is divisible by 16.
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We rewrite this as a request to seek $n$ such that $1 equiv 3^{3n} = 27^n equiv (-5)^n mod 16.$
By repeated squaring, $n = 4$ works.
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$3^{3n}-1=27^n-1=(27-1)(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, so if $16|3^{3n}-1,$ then $8|(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, since $2|26$. This can then be solved by trial and error, or possibly other methods
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We need to do little more than render $3^4=81=5×16+1$. Thereby, $16|(3^4-1)$ and then $(a-1)|(a^3-1)$ for all whole numbers $a$ other than $1$. By the transitive property, $16|((3^4)^3-1)=3^{3×4}-1$.
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Yes. $3^3 = 27 equiv 11$ mod 16 and, as 11 is prime, 11 is an element of the group $left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}$. Thus there is some integer $n'$ such that $11^{n'} equiv_{16} 1$ and the smallest such integer $n'$ is less than 16 and in fact $n'$ divides $|left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}| = 8$ [make sure you see why]. Furthermore for every other integer $k$, the equation $11^{kn'} equiv_{16} 1$ holds [make sure you see why]. Thus for each $n$ of the form $n=kn'$; $k$ and $n'$ as before, the integer $27^{n}-1$ is a multiple of 16 [make sure you see why]
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By Carmichael's function, if $lcd(a,m)=1$ and $a,m,kinmathbb N$ $$a^{lambda(m)·k}equiv1mod{m}$$
In this example, since 3 and 16 are coprime $$3^{lambda(16)·k}equiv 1 mod{16}$$
$$Rightarrow 3^{4k}-1equiv0mod{16}$$
Thus, for any $ninmathbb{N}$ such that $4mid(3n)$, $3^{3n}-1$ is divisible by 16.
Hence $forall nin{xinmathbb N:4mid x}$, i.e., whenever $n$ is a multiple of 4, the condition is satisfied
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By Carmichael's function, if $lcd(a,m)=1$ and $a,m,kinmathbb N$ $$a^{lambda(m)·k}equiv1mod{m}$$
In this example, since 3 and 16 are coprime $$3^{lambda(16)·k}equiv 1 mod{16}$$
$$Rightarrow 3^{4k}-1equiv0mod{16}$$
Thus, for any $ninmathbb{N}$ such that $4mid(3n)$, $3^{3n}-1$ is divisible by 16.
Hence $forall nin{xinmathbb N:4mid x}$, i.e., whenever $n$ is a multiple of 4, the condition is satisfied
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By Carmichael's function, if $lcd(a,m)=1$ and $a,m,kinmathbb N$ $$a^{lambda(m)·k}equiv1mod{m}$$
In this example, since 3 and 16 are coprime $$3^{lambda(16)·k}equiv 1 mod{16}$$
$$Rightarrow 3^{4k}-1equiv0mod{16}$$
Thus, for any $ninmathbb{N}$ such that $4mid(3n)$, $3^{3n}-1$ is divisible by 16.
Hence $forall nin{xinmathbb N:4mid x}$, i.e., whenever $n$ is a multiple of 4, the condition is satisfied
By Carmichael's function, if $lcd(a,m)=1$ and $a,m,kinmathbb N$ $$a^{lambda(m)·k}equiv1mod{m}$$
In this example, since 3 and 16 are coprime $$3^{lambda(16)·k}equiv 1 mod{16}$$
$$Rightarrow 3^{4k}-1equiv0mod{16}$$
Thus, for any $ninmathbb{N}$ such that $4mid(3n)$, $3^{3n}-1$ is divisible by 16.
Hence $forall nin{xinmathbb N:4mid x}$, i.e., whenever $n$ is a multiple of 4, the condition is satisfied
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hint
$$3^{3n}-1=(3^n)^3-1^3$$
$$=(3^n-1)(3^{2n}+3^n+1)$$
we just need $3^n-1$ to be divisible by $16$.
let us look for even $n=2p$.
then
$$3^n-1=(3^p+1)(3^p-1)$$
$3^p+1$ is even. we need $3^p-1$ divisible by $8$. we take $p=2$.
it gives $n=4$.
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hint
$$3^{3n}-1=(3^n)^3-1^3$$
$$=(3^n-1)(3^{2n}+3^n+1)$$
we just need $3^n-1$ to be divisible by $16$.
let us look for even $n=2p$.
then
$$3^n-1=(3^p+1)(3^p-1)$$
$3^p+1$ is even. we need $3^p-1$ divisible by $8$. we take $p=2$.
it gives $n=4$.
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hint
$$3^{3n}-1=(3^n)^3-1^3$$
$$=(3^n-1)(3^{2n}+3^n+1)$$
we just need $3^n-1$ to be divisible by $16$.
let us look for even $n=2p$.
then
$$3^n-1=(3^p+1)(3^p-1)$$
$3^p+1$ is even. we need $3^p-1$ divisible by $8$. we take $p=2$.
it gives $n=4$.
hint
$$3^{3n}-1=(3^n)^3-1^3$$
$$=(3^n-1)(3^{2n}+3^n+1)$$
we just need $3^n-1$ to be divisible by $16$.
let us look for even $n=2p$.
then
$$3^n-1=(3^p+1)(3^p-1)$$
$3^p+1$ is even. we need $3^p-1$ divisible by $8$. we take $p=2$.
it gives $n=4$.
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Yes; $n=4$ gives $3^{3n}-1=531440$, which is divisible by 16.
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Yes; $n=4$ gives $3^{3n}-1=531440$, which is divisible by 16.
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Yes; $n=4$ gives $3^{3n}-1=531440$, which is divisible by 16.
Yes; $n=4$ gives $3^{3n}-1=531440$, which is divisible by 16.
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We rewrite this as a request to seek $n$ such that $1 equiv 3^{3n} = 27^n equiv (-5)^n mod 16.$
By repeated squaring, $n = 4$ works.
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We rewrite this as a request to seek $n$ such that $1 equiv 3^{3n} = 27^n equiv (-5)^n mod 16.$
By repeated squaring, $n = 4$ works.
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We rewrite this as a request to seek $n$ such that $1 equiv 3^{3n} = 27^n equiv (-5)^n mod 16.$
By repeated squaring, $n = 4$ works.
We rewrite this as a request to seek $n$ such that $1 equiv 3^{3n} = 27^n equiv (-5)^n mod 16.$
By repeated squaring, $n = 4$ works.
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$3^{3n}-1=27^n-1=(27-1)(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, so if $16|3^{3n}-1,$ then $8|(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, since $2|26$. This can then be solved by trial and error, or possibly other methods
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$3^{3n}-1=27^n-1=(27-1)(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, so if $16|3^{3n}-1,$ then $8|(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, since $2|26$. This can then be solved by trial and error, or possibly other methods
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$3^{3n}-1=27^n-1=(27-1)(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, so if $16|3^{3n}-1,$ then $8|(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, since $2|26$. This can then be solved by trial and error, or possibly other methods
$3^{3n}-1=27^n-1=(27-1)(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, so if $16|3^{3n}-1,$ then $8|(27^{n-1}+27^{n-2}+ldots+1)$, since $2|26$. This can then be solved by trial and error, or possibly other methods
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We need to do little more than render $3^4=81=5×16+1$. Thereby, $16|(3^4-1)$ and then $(a-1)|(a^3-1)$ for all whole numbers $a$ other than $1$. By the transitive property, $16|((3^4)^3-1)=3^{3×4}-1$.
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We need to do little more than render $3^4=81=5×16+1$. Thereby, $16|(3^4-1)$ and then $(a-1)|(a^3-1)$ for all whole numbers $a$ other than $1$. By the transitive property, $16|((3^4)^3-1)=3^{3×4}-1$.
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We need to do little more than render $3^4=81=5×16+1$. Thereby, $16|(3^4-1)$ and then $(a-1)|(a^3-1)$ for all whole numbers $a$ other than $1$. By the transitive property, $16|((3^4)^3-1)=3^{3×4}-1$.
We need to do little more than render $3^4=81=5×16+1$. Thereby, $16|(3^4-1)$ and then $(a-1)|(a^3-1)$ for all whole numbers $a$ other than $1$. By the transitive property, $16|((3^4)^3-1)=3^{3×4}-1$.
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Yes. $3^3 = 27 equiv 11$ mod 16 and, as 11 is prime, 11 is an element of the group $left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}$. Thus there is some integer $n'$ such that $11^{n'} equiv_{16} 1$ and the smallest such integer $n'$ is less than 16 and in fact $n'$ divides $|left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}| = 8$ [make sure you see why]. Furthermore for every other integer $k$, the equation $11^{kn'} equiv_{16} 1$ holds [make sure you see why]. Thus for each $n$ of the form $n=kn'$; $k$ and $n'$ as before, the integer $27^{n}-1$ is a multiple of 16 [make sure you see why]
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Yes. $3^3 = 27 equiv 11$ mod 16 and, as 11 is prime, 11 is an element of the group $left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}$. Thus there is some integer $n'$ such that $11^{n'} equiv_{16} 1$ and the smallest such integer $n'$ is less than 16 and in fact $n'$ divides $|left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}| = 8$ [make sure you see why]. Furthermore for every other integer $k$, the equation $11^{kn'} equiv_{16} 1$ holds [make sure you see why]. Thus for each $n$ of the form $n=kn'$; $k$ and $n'$ as before, the integer $27^{n}-1$ is a multiple of 16 [make sure you see why]
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Yes. $3^3 = 27 equiv 11$ mod 16 and, as 11 is prime, 11 is an element of the group $left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}$. Thus there is some integer $n'$ such that $11^{n'} equiv_{16} 1$ and the smallest such integer $n'$ is less than 16 and in fact $n'$ divides $|left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}| = 8$ [make sure you see why]. Furthermore for every other integer $k$, the equation $11^{kn'} equiv_{16} 1$ holds [make sure you see why]. Thus for each $n$ of the form $n=kn'$; $k$ and $n'$ as before, the integer $27^{n}-1$ is a multiple of 16 [make sure you see why]
Yes. $3^3 = 27 equiv 11$ mod 16 and, as 11 is prime, 11 is an element of the group $left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}$. Thus there is some integer $n'$ such that $11^{n'} equiv_{16} 1$ and the smallest such integer $n'$ is less than 16 and in fact $n'$ divides $|left(mathbb{Z}/16mathbb{Z}right)^{times}| = 8$ [make sure you see why]. Furthermore for every other integer $k$, the equation $11^{kn'} equiv_{16} 1$ holds [make sure you see why]. Thus for each $n$ of the form $n=kn'$; $k$ and $n'$ as before, the integer $27^{n}-1$ is a multiple of 16 [make sure you see why]
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