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The support function of set $A$ is defined as the following
$S_A(x)=sup_{y in A} x^Ty$, where $x in mathbb{R}^n$.



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$$S_A(x)=S_{conv(A)}(x) ,,,, forall x in mathbb{R}^n$$










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  • Perhaps you could answer the question yourself using the maximum principle, which states that a convex function attains its maximum value at an extreme point of the set.
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The support function of set $A$ is defined as the following
$S_A(x)=sup_{y in A} x^Ty$, where $x in mathbb{R}^n$.



Show that



$$S_A(x)=S_{conv(A)}(x) ,,,, forall x in mathbb{R}^n$$










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  • Perhaps you could answer the question yourself using the maximum principle, which states that a convex function attains its maximum value at an extreme point of the set.
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The support function of set $A$ is defined as the following
$S_A(x)=sup_{y in A} x^Ty$, where $x in mathbb{R}^n$.



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$$S_A(x)=S_{conv(A)}(x) ,,,, forall x in mathbb{R}^n$$










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The support function of set $A$ is defined as the following
$S_A(x)=sup_{y in A} x^Ty$, where $x in mathbb{R}^n$.



Show that



$$S_A(x)=S_{conv(A)}(x) ,,,, forall x in mathbb{R}^n$$







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  • @lntls: Can you help me for this question?
    – Saeed
    Nov 29 at 4:15










  • Perhaps you could answer the question yourself using the maximum principle, which states that a convex function attains its maximum value at an extreme point of the set.
    – LinAlg
    Nov 29 at 4:53




















  • @lntls: Can you help me for this question?
    – Saeed
    Nov 29 at 4:15










  • Perhaps you could answer the question yourself using the maximum principle, which states that a convex function attains its maximum value at an extreme point of the set.
    – LinAlg
    Nov 29 at 4:53


















@lntls: Can you help me for this question?
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@lntls: Can you help me for this question?
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Perhaps you could answer the question yourself using the maximum principle, which states that a convex function attains its maximum value at an extreme point of the set.
– LinAlg
Nov 29 at 4:53






Perhaps you could answer the question yourself using the maximum principle, which states that a convex function attains its maximum value at an extreme point of the set.
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If $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. Take $E={x^{T}y: y in A}$. [Convex hull of $E$ is nothing but ${x^{T}y: y in convex(A)}$.] Proof of the fact that if $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. If a number $x$ is an upper bound for $E$ then $sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i e_i leq x sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i =x$ for all choices of non-negative $c_i$'s adding up to $1$. So $x$ is also an upper bound for convex hull of $E$. The converse is obvious since $E$ is a subset of convex hull of $E$. Hence the least upper bound of $E$ and convex hull of $E$ are same.






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  • Although your first sentence is correct, I think the answer is why that is correct.
    – LinAlg
    Nov 29 at 14:08










  • Why? Could you please address the question?
    – Saeed
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  • @Saeed Please see my revised answer.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 29 at 23:24











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If $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. Take $E={x^{T}y: y in A}$. [Convex hull of $E$ is nothing but ${x^{T}y: y in convex(A)}$.] Proof of the fact that if $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. If a number $x$ is an upper bound for $E$ then $sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i e_i leq x sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i =x$ for all choices of non-negative $c_i$'s adding up to $1$. So $x$ is also an upper bound for convex hull of $E$. The converse is obvious since $E$ is a subset of convex hull of $E$. Hence the least upper bound of $E$ and convex hull of $E$ are same.






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  • Although your first sentence is correct, I think the answer is why that is correct.
    – LinAlg
    Nov 29 at 14:08










  • Why? Could you please address the question?
    – Saeed
    Nov 29 at 16:42










  • @Saeed Please see my revised answer.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 29 at 23:24















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If $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. Take $E={x^{T}y: y in A}$. [Convex hull of $E$ is nothing but ${x^{T}y: y in convex(A)}$.] Proof of the fact that if $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. If a number $x$ is an upper bound for $E$ then $sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i e_i leq x sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i =x$ for all choices of non-negative $c_i$'s adding up to $1$. So $x$ is also an upper bound for convex hull of $E$. The converse is obvious since $E$ is a subset of convex hull of $E$. Hence the least upper bound of $E$ and convex hull of $E$ are same.






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  • Although your first sentence is correct, I think the answer is why that is correct.
    – LinAlg
    Nov 29 at 14:08










  • Why? Could you please address the question?
    – Saeed
    Nov 29 at 16:42










  • @Saeed Please see my revised answer.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 29 at 23:24













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If $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. Take $E={x^{T}y: y in A}$. [Convex hull of $E$ is nothing but ${x^{T}y: y in convex(A)}$.] Proof of the fact that if $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. If a number $x$ is an upper bound for $E$ then $sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i e_i leq x sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i =x$ for all choices of non-negative $c_i$'s adding up to $1$. So $x$ is also an upper bound for convex hull of $E$. The converse is obvious since $E$ is a subset of convex hull of $E$. Hence the least upper bound of $E$ and convex hull of $E$ are same.






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If $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. Take $E={x^{T}y: y in A}$. [Convex hull of $E$ is nothing but ${x^{T}y: y in convex(A)}$.] Proof of the fact that if $E$ is a set of real numbers then supremum of $E$ and supremum of $convex (E)$ are the same. If a number $x$ is an upper bound for $E$ then $sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i e_i leq x sum_{i=1}^{n} c_i =x$ for all choices of non-negative $c_i$'s adding up to $1$. So $x$ is also an upper bound for convex hull of $E$. The converse is obvious since $E$ is a subset of convex hull of $E$. Hence the least upper bound of $E$ and convex hull of $E$ are same.







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  • Although your first sentence is correct, I think the answer is why that is correct.
    – LinAlg
    Nov 29 at 14:08










  • Why? Could you please address the question?
    – Saeed
    Nov 29 at 16:42










  • @Saeed Please see my revised answer.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 29 at 23:24


















  • Although your first sentence is correct, I think the answer is why that is correct.
    – LinAlg
    Nov 29 at 14:08










  • Why? Could you please address the question?
    – Saeed
    Nov 29 at 16:42










  • @Saeed Please see my revised answer.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Nov 29 at 23:24
















Although your first sentence is correct, I think the answer is why that is correct.
– LinAlg
Nov 29 at 14:08




Although your first sentence is correct, I think the answer is why that is correct.
– LinAlg
Nov 29 at 14:08












Why? Could you please address the question?
– Saeed
Nov 29 at 16:42




Why? Could you please address the question?
– Saeed
Nov 29 at 16:42












@Saeed Please see my revised answer.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 29 at 23:24




@Saeed Please see my revised answer.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Nov 29 at 23:24


















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